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vaderios said:

Instead of black it is cool to have a bespin in the distance as the falcon leaves from the antenna that luke was.

-Angel

 

would be awesome to see the city shrink away as if the falcon flies away imediatly as not to lose a single second of opportunity.

 

how about this for a new inserted 5 second shot (or even smaller):

 

when the musical cue changes from the 'rescue' scoring to the faster paced 'escape' music, it would be cool to see a shot from the cockpit perspective and the full bespin panorama quickly rotating around as the falcon changes direction. maybe the initial viewing could see TIEs approaching in the distance.

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Oh Davnes. You are no match for the power of the DarkFather humor.

"Fuck you. All the star wars movies were excellent. none of them sucked. Also, revenge of the sith is the best."

- DarthZorgon (YouTube)

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Hello Everyone,

I'll add in my 2cents as well on the Vader Meditation Chamber debate.

I prefer the hallway and the dimmed lights which brighten when Piett enters.

Matticon.

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Hello Everyone,

I'll add in my 2cents as well on the Vader Meditation Chamber debate.

I prefer the hallway and the dimmed lights which brighten when Piett enters.

Matticon.

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hey! after the wampa scene, what u gonna work on next ady?

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Hey guys,

  several pages ago there was a discussion about the duel in the carbon chamber scene.  Right before luke falls in, vader does a cheesy lightsaber swipe, I guess to get luke to accidentally fall in the hole... I too never liked that scene so I came up with a possible solution: what if vader does a "force push"?  I know Ady doesn't want to use prequel stuff in the originals but I think it really adds something to the fight.  I don't like that luke is so stupid he doesn't realize he's gonna fall in.  I also think vader is showing how superior he is.  The force push would also occur in the middle of a bunch of other force powers (super jump, grabbing a lightsaber from across the room) so it flows well. I made a really crude mock up video where I cut out the swipe and added a really bad photoshop still with force push sound effect.  (I apologize for the really bad quality of the edit I've never done one before)

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=ZOO7J0YM

let me know what you think...

 

-porkinsred6

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porkinsred6 said:

Hey guys,

  several pages ago there was a discussion about the duel in the carbon chamber scene.  Right before luke falls in, vader does a cheesy lightsaber swipe, I guess to get luke to accidentally fall in the hole... I too never liked that scene so I came up with a possible solution: what if vader does a "force push"?  I know Ady doesn't want to use prequel stuff in the originals but I think it really adds something to the fight.  I don't like that luke is so stupid he doesn't realize he's gonna fall in.  I also think vader is showing how superior he is.  The force push would also occur in the middle of a bunch of other force powers (super jump, grabbing a lightsaber from across the room) so it flows well. I made a really crude mock up video where I cut out the swipe and added a really bad photoshop still with force push sound effect.  (I apologize for the really bad quality of the edit I've never done one before)

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=ZOO7J0YM

let me know what you think...

-porkinsred6

I think it's great (the idea, not the mock-up)!
Can it be done?

 

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Monroville said:
ImperialFighter said:

 

I guess this would add to the "curvature of the planet" issue: if you follow the curve of the planet in the revised shot, there should be a little bit of space in the top left of the picture on the upper right of the left window.

 

I haven't seen a response to this one by Ady yet (maybe i missed it). I hope it didnt get lost in all the traffic here, because this looks really strange.

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Deathcrow said:

I haven't seen a response to this one by Ady yet (maybe i missed it). I hope it didnt get lost in all the traffic here, because this looks really strange.

It's already been fixed, see the screenshots on the first page.

 

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Yes, for the second time time this has been fixed.

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executor elavator

 

Just wanted to add my 2 cents on this one, before Adywan makes his own final choice.

To be honest, most of the previous comments on this could work out fine, I reckon.  There have been good points about how a 'lift' or 'longer, different corridor' in the background could give a different sense of 'isolation' for the 'meditation chamber' room being an unknown distance away from the Bridge.

If Adywan chooses either of these routes, then okay, but I think the existing shot also works fine as it is....if this 'meditation chamber' room is looked on as being supposed to be close to the Bridge, for the purposes of being easily and quickly-accessed by his High-Ranking officers, to discuss any potential activities going on, in person. 

I agree with what a lot of Bingowings suggested about Vader's attitude of possibly being seen 'helmet-less' by these underlings, and have no problem believing that at this elderly, corrupted stage in his life, he is not in the slightest bit bothered by whoever sees his actual visage now, and that it does indeed increase the aura of fear around those that do....  (so either all the existing figures can still be left in the existing shot, OR just the 'guard' could be left (and Piett), for a slightly more 'private area' feel)

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DarthBo said:
ImperialFighter said:

All the other shots are looking magnificent too, and I am SO glad you decided to add my hint of Hoth's 'circumference' atmosphere into the LEFT window, AND that subtle bit of RED lighting to the panel too!  It makes all the difference, and the shot is looking terrific.

Will you also consider making the 'edging' of the LEFT and MIDDLE windows the same thinkness all the way up, where we see it in front of the officer on the left, and behind Captain Lennox's back though?

There's just no pleasing you is there? :P

 

Deathcrow, there's still a little something I'd like to see tweaked a little....  ;)

DarthBo, I'm way beyond being pleased about this thing already, but Adywan seems to have such an astonishing workrate on the different parts he's going through, that it is quite possible that even his amazing talent is prone to not catching 100% of everything.  I've already mentioned the words 'Genius' and 'Adywan' in the same sentance before, and I firmly believe that, where most of his work has been concerned on these edits so far.

Someone else agreed that this 'edging' thing seems slightly amiss, and I may be wrong about it, but it still caught my eye as being not quite right.  It's the only thing now, as everything else seems so perfect in this amazing new shot now.  No slight to him intended whatsover.  If Adywan agrees, he'll be happy to look at it again, as he has proven in the past.  If I'm wrong about it, then I'm wrong about it, and happily accept that.  I've certainly been wrong about some things in the past, that I also thought worth bringing up at the time. 

 

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How does one get permission to use Vader's Personal Elevator?  How could Vader be caught unawares if his wall dings that someone is headed down to see him?  Just playing devil's advocate here (and I really like the hallway idea).

That one is easy: it's like the "basement" button in the Arkham Asylum elevator in BATMAN BEGINS.  Only someone with the password or the key can unlock the button and use it, whereupon when someone uses it an automatic signal is sent to Vader in his chamber (so he knows someone is coming).

Also in regards to Vader's chamber, I would personally choose the elevator with airlock.  Vader doesn't have to be 2 feet away from the bridge, being that with an elevator or hallway he could still be anywhere from 1 to 10 levels below the bridge and still within the command tower.  I think the "privacy" factor is a more pertinent reason to change the background behind Piett than anything else.

Also also remember that when Luke took off the helmet in JEDI, the front face mask was still in place, which means Vader would still be using his mechanical breathing apparatus to... well, breath.

EDIT - it looks like the front IS attached to the rest of the helmet, as you can kind of see here (you can see it better when watching the movie):

http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/5007/cap029copy.th.jpg

         

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vaderios said:

Something I always bothering me was the the scene when vader puts his helmet.

We see Piett enter the room and from the outside we see officers walking around and same set from different angle

Maybe vader's chamber suits a place more silent and deep to executor, not in a place when he can be visible.

So,

-Angel

 

My two cents on the Great Vader's Isolation Chamber Debate (thanks for coining that one Savage) ... If you're thinking of changing this, Ady, I like the hallway idea.  Like InfoDroid said, it gives an eerie feeling of isolation, something that is lost if going with the idea of a lift.

“It’s a lot of fun… it’s a lot of fun to watch Star Wars.” – Bill Moyers

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@Hallway idea:  Maybe I'm mistaken, but I believe that in The Wizard of Oz before they see the Wizard they have to walk through a hallway, creating a feeling of suspense and isolation.  At least showing a hallway there would make for a great sense of isolation; totally for the change.

A Goon in a Gaggle of 'em

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ben_danger said:
vaderios said:

Instead of black it is cool to have a bespin in the distance as the falcon leaves from the antenna that luke was.

-Angel

 

would be awesome to see the city shrink away as if the falcon flies away imediatly as not to lose a single second of opportunity.

.. or how about the underside of Cloud City. First zoom out, then scroll by faster and faster as the Falcon accellerates.

vaderios said:

There is a missing window.

I mentioned this months ago. I suggested that the last of the open windows be painted over with white (easier than opening a window), but my suggestion was turned down.

 

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first WAMPA attack scene:

(1) just throwing this one out there.  Is it awkward that the Wampa is backhanding Luke with his right paw (thumb down)?  I remember in someone's alternate edit, they moved the thumb to the top of the hand, so the Wampa would be smacking Luke off with his left hand instead.

http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/9512/cap002k.th.jpg

(2) this is the main problem with the Taun-Tauns: they have dead eyes that always look straight ahead.  When Han gets onto his Taun-Taun to look for Luke, it has the same dead expression in every scene and is again looking straight ahead.  Even if nothing is done (or can be done) with the head itself (though I still think an ear twitch or two would give it some extra life), just allowing the eyes to move and look at what is around it would add a lot.

When Luke is swiped off, the eyes could be made larger and have them look in the direction of the Wampa.  In the following scene when the Wampa is strangling/snapping the neck of the Taun-Taun, the eyes could be widened to look frightened.  Here are some examples:

http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/8972/cap005.th.jpg  http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/8467/cap0055.th.jpg

http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/374/cap008.th.jpg  http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/6285/cap0088.th.jpg

(3) you may have mentioned this before, but will there be consistency in the Ben apparitions between EMPIRE and JEDI (consistent transparency, sparkly glow or no sparkly glow, etc)?

http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/9242/cap010.th.jpg

(4) I know the bacta tank is getting a "red" treatment, but here is something interesting:

http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/3723/cap013.th.jpg  http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/3151/cap012.th.jpg
apparently it WAS red in some shots.

(5) I spotted another gaffe I guess.  When this snow speeder is moving to take off, there is some sort of wire trailing after it.  You can see it better when you watch the movie:

http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/3186/cap016.th.jpg

(6) in the shot where we first see the AT-ATs on the horizon, maybe you could replace the dots with tiny AT-ATs and connect them to the ground (this would be especially cool for the 720p version).

http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/4025/cap018.th.jpg

Also, when comparing the above shot with the one below, the AT-ATs need to be moved more to the right or the background needs to be changed to look like the above shot (there is no hill on the left-hand side)

http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/9971/cap022f.th.jpg

(7) after watching EMPIRE again, I can see the snow speeders come FROM the mountain as opposed to coming overtop it.  While I know you plan on adding more snow speeders in the distance (to further increase the scope), would it be conceivable to add some rebel troopers in the lower right, as well as maybe on trooper in the gun turret waving the snow speeders on?  Another possibility being an added trooper in the foreground turning around to see the oncoming snow speeder fleet.

http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/5679/cap021.th.jpg

(8) when Veers approaches the shield generator, should we be able to see something of the rebel line?

http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/2681/cap027.th.jpg

And lastly (for the moment):

(9) when the MF goes into the "tunnel" and the front lights turn on, could there be beams of light coming out?

http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/7025/cap028.th.jpg
 

         

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porkinsred6 said:

Hey guys,

  several pages ago there was a discussion about the duel in the carbon chamber scene.  Right before luke falls in, vader does a cheesy lightsaber swipe, I guess to get luke to accidentally fall in the hole... I too never liked that scene so I came up with a possible solution: what if vader does a "force push"?  I know Ady doesn't want to use prequel stuff in the originals but I think it really adds something to the fight.  I don't like that luke is so stupid he doesn't realize he's gonna fall in.  I also think vader is showing how superior he is.  The force push would also occur in the middle of a bunch of other force powers (super jump, grabbing a lightsaber from across the room) so it flows well. I made a really crude mock up video where I cut out the swipe and added a really bad photoshop still with force push sound effect.  (I apologize for the really bad quality of the edit I've never done one before)

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=ZOO7J0YM

let me know what you think...

 

-porkinsred6

here is a link to the screencap of the idea of vader's force push from the video:

vader force push

 

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I think to do a force push one would not necessarily have to lift a hand, but they often do to focus on whatever it is they are knocking down or moving.

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porkinsred6 said:
porkinsred6 said:

Hey guys,

  several pages ago there was a discussion about the duel in the carbon chamber scene.  Right before luke falls in, vader does a cheesy lightsaber swipe, I guess to get luke to accidentally fall in the hole... I too never liked that scene so I came up with a possible solution: what if vader does a "force push"?  I know Ady doesn't want to use prequel stuff in the originals but I think it really adds something to the fight.  I don't like that luke is so stupid he doesn't realize he's gonna fall in.  I also think vader is showing how superior he is.  The force push would also occur in the middle of a bunch of other force powers (super jump, grabbing a lightsaber from across the room) so it flows well. I made a really crude mock up video where I cut out the swipe and added a really bad photoshop still with force push sound effect.  (I apologize for the really bad quality of the edit I've never done one before)

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=ZOO7J0YM

let me know what you think...

 

-porkinsred6

here is a link to the screencap of the idea of vader's force push from the video:

vader force push

 

Though the idea that luke was force pushed into the pit is a good idea its just the fact that I always see luke as still a learner and this being an example of his inexperience. Should be left the way it is IMO

 

Many Thanx

Du Twan

 

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Lots of good points that I agree need to be spruced up.

In regards to your adding rebel troopers watching the speeders zoom off to battle, I think it is a good spot for an Adywan Cameo!

Matticon.

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Hey I know this is a little off topic, but I was listening to that song "The begining is the end is the begining" by the smashin pumpkins and was thinking it would be a really cool song for a fan trailer for ESB. I know there are some people in this thread who are good at this stuff. And I know the song was from Watchmen