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Would anyone would have imagined a few years ago that we would be eager to use the MENU TRANSITIONS in a finished film because they looked better than the film itself?

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adywan said:

i do want to try and use the Bespin menu scene but not the others. The Hoth one has the AT-AT's at 2 different scales as it pans and doesn't look right, plus the one AT-AT has the guns from the shot it was taken from of the closer AT-AT still present.

 

That was my thought when I took a look at the youtube video (dang slow internet- took that long to load). The Dagobah sequence seems too fast, and there are already shots covering Luke's landing in the movie. With the Bespin sequence, there's that great long shot of the Falcon and the escorts, which could definitely be used as there was never a shot like that in the original.

 

And the fact that this discussion even exists is sad. ;)

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ImperialFighter said:

Some more great work there Adywan, thanks for the preview.  Just lovin' the vibrancy of the colour, and the look of the sky in your version.  The work on the buildings looks great also, of course.

Although your shots there aren't finished yet, I'm curious to see if you are going to be amending the look of the Millennium Falcon's cockpit windows in any of these shots.  For instance, in the shot at the top here, the windows are totally blackened out (which I quite like in that actual shot), whereas in the other two shots shown here, one has a 'reflective' look, while the other has a 'grey' look.

Just curious if you are keeping the current looks, or not.  Happy either way.

Oh, and have you considered if it would be an idea to add the 2 red lights at the end of the MF's front 'prongs' to come on, somewhere when it lands, in the top shot?  Just another thought to think over. 

 

Hopefully i will be using a model shot for the Falcon instead of the painted matte because it lacks detail so the windows will be changed. There are actually a couple of things that i need to fix for the landing shot that i'm really surprised that ILM didn't fix for the SE. The main one is the tiny cloud car that looks like it flies right through the falcon. If they had digitally re-composited all the FX for the SE then this mistake would not still be there. I'm starting to really question the truth of what was said in all those making of the SE docs.

 

The other thing in that shot is that as the falcon lands on the platform you can  see the platform moves/ wobbles but the matte sections remain static. And i have already added the falcon lights to this shot but i like the idea of them turning on as it lands so i'm probably going to go with that idea.

Did you go through these movies frame by frame?  You're fixing things I've never even noticed before!

(By the way, nice job on the edit.  Looks good!)

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Adywan seems to find a lot of things most other people don't.  Great job on the landing platform Adywan, I can not wait to see it in action.

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Monroville said:

Ady: I take it you are considering using the EMPIRE menu scene (or scenes) with your Revisited version (such as the MF approaching Cloud City, etc)?

I know this has been posted before, but here you go (again, maybe?)!:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etaA9xWsjbU

If there is a way to incorporate all of these clips, be it Cloud City, Dagobah or Hoth (minus the parts with the actual menus, naturally) that would be pretty spectacular!   I also hear that there is an asteroid chase menu screen as well?  I'm wondering if someone could post all of those different menu screens?

I also take it that the "big huge building" on the right rear of the MF is getting removed?  In fact, you could probably remove the BHB as well as the light beige one also behind the MFs center/right (the one that is kind of poking above the MFs engines).  Could just add in a shorter building and more sky to keep theth focus on the Falcon, not to mention the MF model kind of blends in with that background building.

the asteroid chase menue is a scene selection. i'm sure ady can slow the dagobah menue down and shuffle things around. look wat he's done already. not a problem for him.

 

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Can you guys imagine being one of the majority of Star Wars fans out there that have no clue about these Revisited edits? That would be so sad, especially after seeing all of this amazing new stuff! Those Empire menus are pretty sweet. Ady, you rock man!

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gavin77 said:

Can you guys imagine being one of the majority of Star Wars fans out there that have no clue about these Revisited edits? That would be so sad, especially after seeing all of this amazing new stuff! Those Empire menus are pretty sweet. Ady, you rock man!

 

I'm surprised that the news of this hasn't got out. This is the biggest breakthrough in fan-editing since "The Phantom Edit". That was widely covered, I don't see why Revisited hasn't been picked up by major news outlets.

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I agree. We need to start waving the banners. :D Let the world know that Lucas does not have a monopoly on Star Wars! [/irony] :P

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I myself wonder why this has not been covered by any major news networks and such.  I try and spread the word as much as possible.  Just today I talked to one of my long time friends and introduced A New Hope revisited to him and he was blown away.  It was funny becuase his first question to me was has Adywan done anything to any of the other movies, and I told him about Empire revisited.

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I say we wait until they're all released and we have them and a cease and desist order wouldn't hurt anything. Then we spread the news to all corners of the earth.
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Ouch- never thought of that. A cease-and-desist would be a disaster for this project. D:

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adywan said:

i do want to try and use the Bespin menu scene but not the others. The Hoth one has the AT-AT's at 2 different scales as it pans and doesn't look right, plus the one AT-AT has the guns from the shot it was taken from of the closer AT-AT still present.

I can understand that; I guess what impressed me about the AT-AT menu section (as well as the others) was seeing the snowspeeders zip over and have the camera pan and follow them into the battle, as the AT-ATs simulateneously close onto the trenches.  To have that "panoramic" feature to really open the feel of the scene(s).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etaA9xWsjbU
At 0:24, I also like seeing the snowspeeders cross paths with one another.

Would it be possible to take one of the snowspeeder shots of them coming over the horizon ridge or flying over the rebel trenches and blend it into the shot as they approach the AT-ATs in the distance to create in essence a pan similar to the TIE reveal and/or X-wing reveal in ANH?  You may want to consider calling upon those fellows who helped you with the TIE reveal and pan to maybe help work on such a shot.

Regardless, you ARE doing fantastic work and it is nice to see that you are using some imaginative additions other than simply "embiggening" things.

On the current subject of keeping this mum: I concur.  Fanedit.org was shut down recently by the MPAA (and re-opened without any download links); the last thing we need is to have Lucas or someone else come in right when this and/or JEDI or other edits are about to be finished just to have it all taken away.  So I say let's just get Freemason about this and keep it a secret... for now.

 

         

 “You people must realize that the public owns you for life, and when you’re dead, you’ll all be in commercials dancing with vacuum cleaners.”

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Ripplin said:

Best not to tempt fate by shouting our love for the Revisited edits from the rooftops, so to speak.

 

Well, it's a little late on my end. :P My distribution/ranting quotia of IV is now up to 6 copies in 2 weeks, not including a LOT of showing around those Bespin comparison stills. Everyone is blown away when they see them. I think as long as we keep it grassroots, and avoid full-scale publicity, letting people know about it is a good thing.

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it would be interesting to see it get an IMDB profile, but i agree with an earlier point. it would be dreadful if we over publisised it only for ady to get shut down. i generally tell anyone i know who is interested, but on the grand scale of things thats not too many. when he is finished the adyvangelism can truly begin so to speak.:P

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If this project is ever shut down George will never receive another penny of my money.

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Ripplin said:

Oh, I've told a lot of people, too, but I haven't exactly rung up Skywalker Ranch... Haha.

 

Let's hope Peter Mayhew isn't phoning George regularly about how superior it is, and how he 'got a medal' after all....  ;)

 

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adywan said:

Hopefully i will be using a model shot for the Falcon instead of the painted matte because it lacks detail so the windows will be changed. There are actually a couple of things that i need to fix for the landing shot that i'm really surprised that ILM didn't fix for the SE. The main one is the tiny cloud car that looks like it flies right through the falcon. If they had digitally re-composited all the FX for the SE then this mistake would not still be there. I'm starting to really question the truth of what was said in all those making of the SE docs.

The other thing in that shot is that as the falcon lands on the platform you can  see the platform moves/ wobbles but the matte sections remain static. And i have already added the falcon lights to this shot but i like the idea of them turning on as it lands so i'm probably going to go with that idea.

Ha ha, I happened to only notice those 'cloud car' and slight 'platform wobble' problems myself last night, but had convinced myself that I was imagining things, and that the 'shadow movements' of the Millennium Falcon in the above shot were giving an 'optical illusion' in some way.  Good to know I wasn't seeing things that weren't there. 

This 'model' thing you mention, that will improve the look of the cockpit 'windows' too, sounds awesome by the way.  :) 

I'm glad you happen to like the idea of the lights switching on, once it actually has landed, Adywan.  Can I suggest it might look good if they just come on at the same time that the Millennium Falcon's 'landing gear' 'depresses' down onto the platform (indicating it's FULLY landed), which happens just after the 'jets' shoot out.  They would still be seen long enough for a subtle moment, before the shot cuts to the next one of Han emerging.  If you personally prefer that they come on at a point before this, cool beans, as I'm just glad they will be seen in this shot somewhere.

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I don't have a shot of it handy, but something else to consider would be the shot of the 'stationary' Millennium Falcon that is seen immediately after the scene of 'Vader inside his black chamber', too.

When we previously saw it, the Falcon switched on bright white lights from the front of it's formost 'prongs', as it flew into the 'asteroid cave'.  This seems fine, considering the darkness of the situation, and looks good.

However, where we normally see the small 'off-centre' lights on the 'prongs' as being RED....in the 'stationary' shot of the Falcon in the 'cave', they are shown shining white.  I'd like to see these (and the hint of their glow) changed to RED too, if possible, to tie things in better with the likes of the shots on the platform.

Note: the ones on the Falcon in JEDI are inconsistent throughout it's flying inside the Deathstar II, with some shots showing RED, some WHITE, and some NONE.  If you do keep any of the 'prong' lights in JEDI, rather than remove them all (removal happens to be my own preference), then perhaps they can just be amended to be all WHITE in those JEDI shots, and keep the consistency of RED lights as being the 'stationary' , landed Falcon 'default' .  But that's all for another day.

I reckon Han had made some 'modifications' along the way, and that's why they weren't seen on the Falcon in A New Hope, by the way.  :)  

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I almost forgot, as far as the SE shot of the Falcon approaching the platform, and slowing down as it is about to land on it (in the shot immediately before the one above), I think the thing that made it seem somewhat 'flattened' at that point, was the possibility that we should actually be able to see a hint of some of the 'landing gear' legs sticking out underneath the side of the CGI Falcon, nearest to us, at some point within the last 3 seconds of the shot, just before it cuts to the above shot.  

You'd need to study the footage carefully, and it would be quite subtle, but it now seems to me that this would go a long way to 'fattening-up' the look of the Falcon at this point, and matching the shot above, a lot better.