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Am I the only one who doesn't prefer the new positioning of his hands? I much prefer the hands being more on his hips rather than so close to his belt buckle. I think if you're able to get the original positioning correct then why change it?

Ronster said:

The R2-D2 scene on cloud city really perplexed me after ryan pointed it out....

I had a proper look at it tonight and it's not pretty... But actually no shots need flipping at all but to fix it so that it makes sense here is what I come up with...

Yep I am terrible at art but you could treat it as if R2 moves while Lando is tugging leia so this happens off screen... But in my mind to show R2 already there or moving in that shot would help fix it but that is perhaps where it gets ugly or difficult to do.

Although the way I presented it is funny it is a serious idea for a fix... My art is appalling have a laugh I don't mind I accepted it a long time ago.

But the trajectory of R2 should be coming more inside the door again as Leia shoots and runs.

^ Fair play to ya, in all seriousness that looks as good if not better than SE changes like digi-Jabba.

^ If R2 started rolling inside the doorway this would fix it but bloody hell it would be a hard FX to pull off.

he isn't just inside the door when he lets the jets off. He is quite a way inside the corridor. But, if you look at the shot when he lets off the jets of smoke, the first few frames has him coming to a halt. We also don't see him for a few shots after he opens the door. He may just have popped outside to check if the coast is clear. lol. Then heads back inside to provide cover for the team. This could easily have happened in the moments that we don't see him.

Darth Stewie said:

Am I the only one who doesn't prefer the new positioning of his hands? I much prefer the hands being more on his hips rather than so close to his belt buckle. I think if you're able to get the original positioning correct then why change it?

This actually REALLY bothered me when I first saw it. However, I find with Aalenfae's added light source at the bottom, it is less distracting. I think it stands out so much right now because his hands/arms happen to be in a place where the hologram contrasts a lot with the background, drawing attention to them.

Ronster said:

aalenfae said:

I think - along the lines of Bingowings - we should probably see some kind of glow from the machine itself. It hardly needs to be a radical effect. Even just a blue glow or something. Like this:

If Ady goes with this idea or something similar one other thing to note is that the metal curved plate seen off to the left (actually it's a base plate) is the same texture as the four squares so the plate underneath should be differentiated in texture if this idea or something based on this is done.

as this also is an illusion breaker

or vice versa on texture... Basically the four squares need to feel unique.

Um... why?  Muddy's mod negates the entire point of this suggestion (by darkening it), which is to show HOW this is a holographic device (as all holographic devices in STAR WARS give a glow or project from something). There is no need to change the texture of the 4 square panels, as this is STAR WARS technology.. it only has to look cool and functional enough that we get the idea as to how it works, much less that it simply does.

The only real change I could see is getting rid of those 2 small bumps on the lower left of the 3rd square (and make it uniform with the square on the right side).  Well, that and Vader looks like Cotton Hill.

Darth Stewie said:

Am I the only one who doesn't prefer the new positioning of his hands? I much prefer the hands being more on his hips rather than so close to his belt buckle. I think if you're able to get the original positioning correct then why change it?

 ^ this.  It seems like a strange change to make.  Also, it looks like he is holding onto something.....?

Have any of you seen the shot in motion? His movement is fine. Nothing to worry about.

How are you seeing 2 doors onto the landing platform? We see there is only 1 door when they land. There isn't anything wrong with that scene. everyone is where they should be; Chewie is holding them off from the direction they approached the platform and Leia is holding them off from the other direction

doubleofive said:

Have any of you seen the shot in motion? His movement is fine. Nothing to worry about.

No, we obviously haven't seen it but what does "fine" mean? Does that mean he mimics the movements of the original? The hands on the hips thing is a little piece of theatre that shows his impatience, not unlike a parent who is frustrated at their children OR it shows a little bit of his satisfaction, just like he did when he entered the Tantive IV Blockade Runner. Either way, I've always liked it and changing it seems to change the original feeling in a way that seems completely opposite of what I've come to expect from Ady.

Though I trust you 005, it just seems that either we're getting a misleading screen shot or it's a judgement of "fine" that some of us may or may not agree with.  

You know, no matter what i did with the Vadergram, i just can't win. complaining that he looks too short, now that he is filmed at the correct angle to the holoprojector - but if it had been filmed at the original angle then people would complain that it's at the wrong angle and he looks like he is leaning back, especially now the figure would be able to be seen more clearly than the super fuzzy original. When i was doing ANH there was the whole "hands on hips" thing going then. But then it was people wanting me to remove the pantomime hands on hips gesture. Now it's complaints about changing it. Vader's stance, more often than not, is the hands close to the belt buckle. That's the posture i wanted for the hologram and that's the one i'm sticking with.It doesn't change the original feeling of the original in any way - only the way that you see it. It's still just Vader, on a hologram, getting a report about the landing from Veers. He wouldn't be striking an impatient stance because it's right at the beginning of the battle. The thing has just started. Would Vader really be getting impatient that early on? No. He is just receiving an update.

It's pretty clear that people interpret things in so many different way. If i was gong to change things just because of the way people interpret something,  then i would have to do a million different versions.

Fair enough. It's not criticism for the sake of criticism. I think you realize that. I doubt seriously you want anything but honest critique for the sake of perfecting it. After all, this, in the end, will be the definitive edition that will be in many people's collection and handed down to the next generation after we here at OT.com are all but forgotten. Collectively, it's my opinion that all the points of view help narrow down what stays and what goes for the betterment of the edit. Keep up the good work and remember that we're all in this for the shared love of Star Wars. There's not a whole lot of people in the world who understand our mutual obsession to perfect these films. 

adywan said:

It's pretty clear that people interpret things in so many different way. If i was gong to change things just because of the way people interpret something,  then i would have to do a million different versions.

Niflamol said:

What other,more difficult ones, shots did you shoot?

muddyknees2000 said:

doubleofive said:

Niflamol said:
What other,more difficult ones, shots did you shoot?

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