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asterisk8 said:

Revisited is a FREE fanedit, available for download...

...provided you own legitimate copies of the source material

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muddyknees2000 said:

asterisk8 said:

Revisited is a FREE fanedit, available for download...

...provided you own legitimate copies of the source material

Yes, it's absolutely worth continually pointing that out. You must own the Blu-Ray to download ESB:R.

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Savage said:

Even the ones released to this point as side-by-side (or side-by-each, if you are so inclined).  If anyone wants to step up to the plate on this one <cough> doubleofive <cough>, it would be much appreciated! If not, I'm sure I will survive. :)
I love the roll-over screenshot thing too, but if anyone were to do that for ESBR, it'd have to be Ady, as I don't have either source in HD on my computer, and would have to manually flip back and forth between them to get the right frames. And I would miss everything. ;-)

And giving away a professional looking blu-ray with pack-in features would probably cost more for Ady to make than the $40 one would donate. They don't even make Lightscribe Blu-rays!

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Have the blu-ray versions been released in any other form (legal downloads etc)?

The problem I have is that I don't have a blu-ray player and don't really want one.

I could buy the discs as a present and as the owner and purchaser of a set of discs download ESB:R and then give the discs away but would that count?

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Once you gave them away, they would be the property of the recipient. There is currently no other way to buy them than the discs themselves. Think of it as buying the Revisited edits, you're just not going to watch them on disc but download them later.

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Bingowings said:

Have the blu-ray versions been released in any other form (legal downloads etc)?

The problem I have is that I don't have a blu-ray player and don't really want one.

I could by the discs as a present and as the owner and purchaser of a set of discs download ESB:R and then give the discs away but would that count?

 

Blu-ray players are more affordable now than they were 2 years ago. I found one for just 100$.

My brother gave me his saga set after I talked him out of selling it to a pawn shop, and I didn't have to do much in return, just a trade and a favor, and no money out of my pocket. I will still never watch the official blu-ray's EVER, just Ady's version.

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Yeah but for the time being my DVD player is fully functional and I have a small television screen.

I don't want to clutter my home up any more than it is with stuff I don't need or want which costs money I could spend on other things (like utility bills).

If my DVD player kicked the bucket I might get a blu-Ray player to play DVDs on and the odd Blu-ray release but I don't see the point of replacing something that works.

I'll keep an eye out for the disc sets in charity shops and the like.

When it arrives I'll get Harmy's sets and by then probably ESB:R.

But that would mean having to keep it in a cupboard with my virtually redundant DVD sets so I can keep the bonus materials from both.

Watching the 2004SE was bad enough I don't think I'd ever watch the 2011SE so it's a bit of a waste of space and money. 

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I hear ya mate.  I don't think it's fair at all for this site to enforce such a ridiculous rule. If you don't have the funds to upgrade for blu-ray let alone spend the 50 to 100 bucks just for the movies alone, I think that you should NOT have to own the blu-rays if you already have the same versions on DVD.

However, since you don't have a stand alone player capable of decoding HD material, you will not be able to watch ADY's HD version of ESB:Revisited. That also raises the question of if Ady will release a standard definition version for the ones that cant playback HD content, and will they still need to have the blu-ray's to have a lower quality version of ESB:revisited.

 

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Why do you need to own the Bluray version if you only intend to get an SD version of the edit?

I will say that Bluray, even output at 480i, is far superior to DVD. Color is WAY better, and the clarity does not suffer from MPEG artifacting, thus giving you a crisp and clean image. Definitely still worth it to buy, though not as much as it would be for larger screens/resolutions.

These benefits are lost when BluRay sourced edits are released as a standard DVD.

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1/2: Hal9000
3: L8wrtr
4/5: Adywan
6-9: Hal9000

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As I understand it, the ESB Blu-ray is the ultimate source for Ady's ESB:R, and therefore that is why you must own a copy of the ESB Blu-ray in order to own and watch ESB:R in ANY format.  Just because it is subsequently rendered into a lesser format than HD doesn't alter the fact that it was originally sourced from the Blu-rays.

And in any case, Ady has made it VERY clear that ownership of the Blu-rays is a prerequisite for owning ESB:R, so further debate is pointless and in fact actively counter-productive.

If Lucasfilm wanted to it could and most certainly would take a very firm legal line on fan-edits like this, just as it has on countless other areas it feels companies and individuals have illegally profited from its copyrighted material over the years.  Whatever else you may think of George Lucas, be VERY grateful that he tolerates fan edits, otherwise none of us would be able to enjoy them.

Therefore, if you want to watch ESB:R, buy the Blu-rays.  Period.

And (with respect), please stop posting requests for purchasing options for ESB:R (there will NEVER be any), complaints about having to own the Blu-rays, your intentions to own ESB:R but not to own the Blu-rays, or anything else that simply jeopardizes the very existence of ESB:R.

The rules have been made crystal clear.  If you don't intend to abide by them, kindly keep that information to yourself.  The rest of us don't wish to hear about it.

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surely even if there are just a few seconds of the edit from the Blu-Ray, a copy of the edit, regardless of definition, sources etc getting to someone without the original blu-ray source would class as piracy.

i personally will be buying the bluray, and then proceed to keep it at the bottom of my sock draw.

now PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE be aware that THIS website, and FE.org are always SO close to some government copyright group shutting it down for such suggestions. THAT is why the said policy is in place, to protect what little space we have here.

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Snaketibe said:

Therefore, if you want to watch ESB:R, buy the Blu-rays.  Period.

 

The rules have been made crystal clear.  If you don't intend to abide by them, kindly keep that information to yourself.  The rest of us don't wish to hear about it.

Id missed this about the Blu-Rays. Thanks for clarifying again.

I gots to get me a Blu-Ray then before this comes out.

I don't see it as just a rule of the site, I see it as a moral obligation. I, MBTM, Adywan, Harmy, and everyone else in this hobby aren't here to get something for nothing. This is art and the discussion of art.

 

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Exactly what Snaketibe said is all that needs to be said, along with the rules stickied to the top of every forum on this site.

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Blu-ray players are now pretty cheap folks, get one. Do a trade like I did if you know some one who has the blu-rays and doesn't want them anymore.

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Is m0ther not around to sort this mess?

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The revisited edits WILL NEVER BE SOLD! I also refuse to receive any donations or monetary offers in return for a copy of any of my edits. I sent out over a hundred copies of ANH:R and refused to even accept anything in return for postage or cost of blank discs. I did it all out of my own pocket, which is why i no longer send out copies as the cost became too great, especially when being sent all around the world.  We do not own the copyright of these films and to accept anything in return for copies is something i would never even consider and is also illegal.  So please don't ask. People have in the past offered donations toward the edits in return for a physical copy of the DVD and, no matter how badly i need funds, i have always refused these offers and i always will.

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The absolute only way for people to get copies is either by downloading it and burning it ourselves or via a PIF (pay it forward) chain. It relies on good faith, but we're a generally an honest and generous bunch here. I'll be happy to participate in the latter after downloading it myself. PROVIDED THE RECIPIENTS OWN THE BLU RAYS!!!!

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If anyone wants to send me money, I will happily not send them ESB:R.

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brash_stryker said:

 

PROVIDED THE RECIPIENTS OWN THE BLU RAYS!!!!

 

Thats all fine and dandy, but when those recipients make copies to send out, they may or may not ask their recipients if they have the official blu-rays, and so on, and so on .......

Also when the edit makes it way to the torrent sites, who's gonna demand that person downloading if they own the official copies?

 

Anyway, I went to wall-mart today to price more Blu-ray players and I found a few that were down to 70$. Can't beat that at all.

 

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Perhaps it needs to be included in the disclaimer on the DVD or blu

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I'm pretty sure Ady will have that on both.

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AuggieBenDoggie said:

 

brash_stryker said:

 

PROVIDED THE RECIPIENTS OWN THE BLU RAYS!!!!

 

Thats all fine and dandy, but when those recipients make copies to send out, they may or may not ask their recipients if they have the official blu-rays, and so on, and so on .......

Also when the edit makes it way to the torrent sites, who's gonna demand that person downloading if they own the official copies?

 

Anyway, I went to wall-mart today to price more Blu-ray players and I found a few that were down to 70$. Can't beat that at all.

 

People like myself are just making the intentions of faneditors and this website's stance on piracy clear. Jay, Adywan and any other fan editors are taking every precaution that it's done as above board as possible (short of us going out and policing the whole world!), and you're responding by pointing out the obvious - that people will ignore this site's and the project's disclaimers regardless. 

As ben_danger and others have pointed out, considering the current fuss with SOPA, this site and fanedits are in very real danger of being shut down. So why are you going out of your way to underline the fact that people will pirate it? It gives any anti piracy government group extra ammunition as it makes out that the edit will encourage people to download without owning the source material (which they've always done and always will without the influence of this site. We already know!)

Consider me baffled.

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I absolutely agree, the rules are in place and sure, some people will break them, everyone breaks the rules sometimes but only stupid people go and boast about it on a public online forum. I really do think that fan edits and preservations are in danger and that we need to clearly express what others have already stated above: They are not for sale and should only be shared amongs legal owners of the source material, provided it's still available.

 

The only thing that consoles me a little is that we are only very small fish in the sea full of real pirates, do a Google search for STAR WARS Blu-Ray 720p; there are hundreds, maybe thousands of different pirate copies of the actual official BD release, so 99% of people who will break the law and download STAR WARS in HD illegally are not going to download ESB:R or the Despecialized Edition, they are going to download Star.Wars.1977-1983.BluRay.720p.DTS-ES.x264-CHD or STAR WARS SAGA 1977 2005 BluRay 720p QEBS5 AAC20 MP4-FASM or some crap like that. And out of the 1% of illegal downloads of STAR WARS that our projects probably constitute, 90% probably do own the official release.

 

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brash_stryker said:

People like myself are just making the intentions of faneditors and this website's stance on piracy clear. Jay, Adywan and any other fan editors are taking every precaution that it's done as above board as possible (short of us going out and policing the whole world!), and you're responding by pointing out the obvious - that people will ignore this site's and the project's disclaimers regardless. 

As ben_danger and others have pointed out, considering the current fuss with SOPA, this site and fanedits are in very real danger of being shut down. So why are you going out of your way to underline the fact that people will pirate it? It gives any anti piracy government group extra ammunition as it makes out that the edit will encourage people to download without owning the source material (which they've always done and always will without the influence of this site. We already know!)

Consider me baffled.

 

I'm with ya mate, I'm just saying you cant trust everyone to be honest.

 

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The only thing that consoles me a little is that we are only very small fish in the sea full of real pirates, do a Google search for STAR WARS Blu-Ray 720p; there are hundreds, maybe thousands of different pirate copies of the actual official BD release, so 99% of people who will break the law and download STAR WARS in HD illegally are not going to download ESB:R or the Despecialized Edition, they are going to download Star.Wars.1977-1983.BluRay.720p.DTS-ES.x264-CHD or STAR WARS SAGA 1977 2005 BluRay 720p QEBS5 AAC20 MP4-FASM or some crap like that. And out of the 1% of illegal downloads of STAR WARS that our projects probably constitute, 90% probably do own the official release.

 

Will be intresting to see how much those stats change when ESB: revisited hits the torrent sites.

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Wouldn't be a bad thing if certain posts on this page were removed altogether, I reckon...