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STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 REVISITED ADYWAN *720p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION — Page 48

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I think I like it they way Adywan has it. Granted, the line with captian was in the shooting script and likely only changed in post production, I just think it sounds better without it. Who is the captian anyway? The movie never shows him. Without the line, it gives the impression that 3PO knows that they have tangled with the Imperials before.
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C-3PO: "Our last master was Captain Antilles, but with what we've been through...."

I just think it makes more sense that 3PO show concern for his master than showing concern for the princess who he doesn't even recognize, and what makes you think everybody mentioned has to be shown?
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Originally posted by: Max_Rebo
C-3PO: "Our last master was Captain Antilles, but with what we've been through...."

I just think it makes more sense that 3PO show concern for his master than showing concern for the princess who he doesn't even recognize, and what makes you think everybody mentioned has to be shown?


I don't think that everybody mentioned needs to be shown. Tank, for instance. And I don't think that 3PO mentioning the captian on the rebel ship or in the Lars garage is showing a lot of concern. Saying "There will be no escape for the captian this time" is different than saying "There will be no escape for our master this time" . 3PO is just spitting out facts. I don't hear any concern in his voice at all.
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Well, the radio drama shows how they first met, the princess and 3PO; I kind of liked the idea of him covering for her, as if he thought it would make a difference.
I'll check the radio drama for a piece of audio later that may be useful.

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I'm getting even more hyped up about this. Is it alright for me to ask if u can put another preview download on? OH MAN, can't wait!!!!!!!!!

 

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Ady - double checked your list prior to asking this:
Did you happen to change Luke's line about "this R2 unit has a bad motivator" by any chance? or is just chalked up to Luke not knowing much about astromech droids, since this is a an R5 unit? If not, no prob... just one of those lines that's always bugged me. just wondering. You efforts are HUGELY appreciated by us salivating fans.

Better to light a candle than to curse the darkness - Chinese proverb

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Originally posted by: OBtwosy
Ady - double checked your list prior to asking this:
Did you happen to change Luke's line about "this R2 unit has a bad motivator" by any chance? or is just chalked up to Luke not knowing much about astromech droids, since this is a an R5 unit? If not, no prob... just one of those lines that's always bugged me. just wondering. You efforts are HUGELY appreciated by us salivating fans.



Forgive me but this really bugs me. (also really forgive me if you were joking)

If Luke Skywalker says it's an R2 unit, then why don't you believe him?

when you first saw the film did you think "hang on he's got that wrong!"? No. Why? because the films are the primary source of all known information about the Star Wars universe.

But what happened is that when they were designing the toys (or some other piece of tie-in merchandise) they didn't check their facts and they named it R5-.., and now your suggesting that the film is changed to fit in with other products that were named incorrectly because someone at some point didn't pay enough attention to the film.

It was always an R2 unit, it will always be an R2 unit, the whole system of astromech naming was only devised after the films were produced, and the prequels don't adhere to it so why would you suggest altering the original film to adhere to it?

again very sorry, rant over.
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You go girl!!

No, seriously, I totally agree with you Max_Rebo
I wish I had a Kryptonite cross, because then you could keep both Dracula AND Superman away.
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Hi, Adywan, I'm new here. I would just like to say (as many have before) that your work is fantastic and I love what your doing to Star Wars. Your edit is that update that I always thought Star Wars needed. Anyways, there are two things that I'm wondering about:

1) When the milenium falcon is leaving the Death Star docking bay, it has always bothered me that the cockpit shot before they leave has only a black background in the window of the falcon when I always thought there should be a wall of the docking bay instead. Have you changed anything in this shot?

2) There are a couple of shots in the Yavin hanger bay where 3po walks by during Luke's dialouge, but instead of hearing those electronic servo sounds that are associated with 3po there is that loud crackling noise made by his suit because they were using the on set dialouge. It would be nice to hear that crackling go if possible, and to hear the sounds usually associated with 3po inserted.

By the way, you should definately keep the battle of heroes music during the Obi-Wan and Vader duel. It worked well and I did not see it on the recent list of changes.
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wow. so totally forgive me - yeesh.

sorry that my post bugs you - I wasn't making a request (file formats, additions) just asking what I thought was a decent question related in part to the "princess/captain" change noted in a previous post above.

when i first saw the film at 4 yrs old, no it didn't bug me... no more than "there'll be no escape for the princess this time"

yet if the films are "the primary source of all known information about the Star Wars universe." why change the above line? was the film wrong??

or why change the blue rebellion insignias in the breifing on Yavin 4, or the fact that Greedo didn't blink in the original, or any number of changes (which I LOVE) about this edit

i'm just grateful that adywan is doing this edit

perhaps you missed this part of the post: "If not, no prob... just one of those lines that's always bugged me." I should have clarified with this caveat: "...just one of those lines that's bugged me since about the 80th time I saw the film on on VHS and found out (through a Lucas licensed product) that this droid was called R5-D4"

- I'll just keep my well intentioned questions to myself and stay a lurker until I see the final edit.
strike that - I'll just keep thanking adywan for his work.
you are entitled to thinking me daft, as I'm entitled to not liking that original line.

peace


Better to light a candle than to curse the darkness - Chinese proverb

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@owen lars kenobi

there is no black wall behind the cockpit when the falcon leaves the hangar bay. it is a moving hangar wall. what it means is your screen is set far too dark so it's obliterated the detail that exists.
When a woman says yes, she means no - when she says maybe, she means no.

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Originally posted by: OBtwosy
wow. so totally forgive me - yeesh.

sorry that my post bugs you - I wasn't making a request (file formats, additions) just asking what I thought was a decent question related in part to the "princess/captain" change noted in a previous post above.

when i first saw the film at 4 yrs old, no it didn't bug me... no more than "there'll be no escape for the princess this time"

yet if the films are "the primary source of all known information about the Star Wars universe." why change the above line? was the film wrong??

like I said sorry, I wasn't trying to attack you. You make a good point about the "princess/captain" change, but the difference is although it is obviously 'correct' it doesn't make much sense based on other information provided in the film, and no it probably didn't bother me the first time but it has started to do so.


Originally posted by: OBtwosy

or why change the blue rebellion insignias in the breifing on Yavin 4, or the fact that Greedo didn't blink in the original, or any number of changes (which I LOVE) about this edit

i'm just grateful that adywan is doing this edit

there are many changes that I like in this edit and many which which I think are unnecessary, but I too am grateful to Adywan for the work he is putting in.

Originally posted by: OBtwosy
perhaps you missed this part of the post: "If not, no prob... just one of those lines that's always bugged me." I should have clarified with this caveat: "...just one of those lines that's bugged me since about the 80th time I saw the film on on VHS and found out (through a Lucas licensed product) that this droid was called R5-D4"


I guess this is where the difference of opinion come in, rather than the difference bugging me, I just find it amusing that they obviously didn't pay much attention when producing the licensed products and rather than just admitting they were wrong they have propagated loads of theories as to why Luke was wrong.

Originally posted by: OBtwosy
- I'll just keep my well intentioned questions to myself and stay a lurker until I see the final edit.
strike that - I'll just keep thanking adywan for his work.
you are entitled to thinking me daft, as I'm entitled to not liking that original line.

peace


please don't stop posting on my count, I was a bit harsh but really I was just trying to share an opinion, i don't think you daft and your opinions are just as valid as mine. To be honest my opinion matters very little as this edit will never become the version of Star Wars I watch, as i just don't think there are this many things that need changing.

But in the end the only thing that really matters what Adywan himself wants to include.

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I think that's what is cool about these edits. On the one end of the spectrum, there is work on the X0 Project, which looks as close to the theatrical version as we are going to get*, a bit farther along, you have Darth Editous's work with a lot of changes that the Special Edition should have taken care of in the first place. A bit farther down, you have Adywan's and Tellan's work which adds whole new surprises. Something for everybody really.












*Not an adequate or necessarily accurate description of the X0 Project. This post may not be quoted without the express written consent of Major League Baseball. Void where prohibited.
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It's been a while since I've posted in here, but I've been following the thread closely!

adywan, I've had this idea for combining two shots in the end battle.
This shot idea may have occured to you as well:
http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k168/SSWR/TIEZOOM.jpg
What if you were to add Vader INTO the exterior shot of the TIE and basically "zoom" into the cockpit shot?

Just kind of a wild idea I've had...Lucas did a similar shot in ROTS...

Also, back when we were all discussing the possible new Vader-post-death-star-scene...
I just wanted to know if you have tried playing around with that idea again...?

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/ROTJ-Fan-O-Matic-3-new-clips/topic/7919/

http://www.youtube.com/user/SSWR1

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Originally posted by: SomethingStarWarsRelated
It's been a while since I've posted in here, but I've been following the thread closely!

adywan, I've had this idea for combining two shots in the end battle.
This shot idea may have occured to you as well:
http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k168/SSWR/TIEZOOM.jpg
What if you were to add Vader INTO the exterior shot of the TIE and basically "zoom" into the cockpit shot?

Just kind of a wild idea I've had...Lucas did a similar shot in ROTS...

Also, back when we were all discussing the possible new Vader-post-death-star-scene...
I just wanted to know if you have tried playing around with that idea again...?


Might be possible if you took that shot from the 1080i hd version and then downscaled to standard def, might give you enough resolution to do that big of a blow up/with motion blur of course.....
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"Might be possible if you took that shot from the 1080i hd version and then downscaled to standard def, might give you enough resolution to do that big of a blow up/with motion blur of course....."

That might work...wait-... is there a large picture of Vaders TIE in that scupting a galaxy book?
That might be a good source for several ships...

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/ROTJ-Fan-O-Matic-3-new-clips/topic/7919/

http://www.youtube.com/user/SSWR1

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It's a good idea SomethingStarWarsRelated but , after playing about with some tests after seeing your post, it would be a nightmare to pull off. If you look at all the shots of Vader inside his cockpit then you will see that thay are all taken from and angle. either from below or to the side and there are none taken from directly in front, which i would need a shot like that to be able to pull something like this off. I guess i could use footage of vader from a different scene, recolour it and try and piece the background from other shots but it would be so hard. Even with the HD version the zoom in would be so much & so fast that it would look terrible. Oh, well. It was still a good suggestion.

Now there is one thing i have to make clear , especially after i saw the small disagreement arise about the red R2 unit. I am totally disregarding anything outside of the movies, mainly the EU, for this edit. Because Luke calls it an R2 unit then that is how it will be staying. As Max_Rebo said this misnaming arose when making the toys. Also I will not be adding any characters from the EU either. But this place is here so that people can convey their questions & suggestions, so please let them do that even if you don't agree with what they have said ( unless they say this edit is s**t then just go for it . Only joking.).

Now to answer a couple of your questions OBtwosy:
when i first saw the film at 4 yrs old, no it didn't bug me... no more than "there'll be no escape for the princess this time"
This has been changed because it causes a slight continuity problem in Luke's garage when they see the holo image of princess Leia. 3PO really has no clue who she is. Even if he was instructed to keep her identity a secret he would have a hard time doing this and would have probably accidentally told his new master about her identity due to loyalties. omitting "for the princess" fixes this easily.
or why change the blue rebellion insignias in the breifing on Yavin 4, or the fact that Greedo didn't blink in the original, or any number of changes

the helmet insignia colours were changed because, although in the novel there is a blue squadron, they don't make it into the final draft so i changed them to red. Any changes are just to fix issues within the movies and not what we know from outside sources. And i added blinking & facial movements to Greedo and an enhancement and not a fix, amongst others. I'm just trying to bring Star Wars into the 21st century.
- I'll just keep my well intentioned questions to myself and stay a lurker until I see the final edit.

Don't stop asking questions just because someone doesn't agree with what you have said. I don't think you should have took so much offence to Max_Rebo's reply. Like i have said before, everyone is entitled to their own opinions and they are more than welcome here. Without people contributing in here i doubt i would have done half the things to this edit as i have done so far, and thats why you will all be added to the end credit roll.

Oh and sorry if i seemed to have repeated myself a bit. i am recovering from a hangover to end all hangovers after partying hard because it was my 40th birthday yesterday and i overdid things a bit.

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"It's a good idea SomethingStarWarsRelated but , after playing about with some tests after seeing your post, it would be a nightmare to pull off. If you look at all the shots of Vader inside his cockpit then you will see that thay are all taken from and angle. either from below or to the side and there are none taken from directly in front, which i would need a shot like that to be able to pull something like this off. I guess i could use footage of vader from a different scene, recolour it and try and piece the background from other shots but it would be so hard. Even with the HD version the zoom in would be so much & so fast that it would look terrible. Oh, well. It was still a good suggestion."

Ah! Too bad. Yeah, I didn't really give any thought to the shots of Vader being from different angles...
Why do you suppose it was filmed that way to begin with? You would think it would've been easier and saved time to keep the camera stationary...?

By-the-way
Happy Birthday! This edition will be a nice birthday present to...yourself!

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/ROTJ-Fan-O-Matic-3-new-clips/topic/7919/

http://www.youtube.com/user/SSWR1

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In the Radio Drama, he without a doubt meets Princess Leia - but again, in the end, it's up to you about the "no escape" line.

A Goon in a Gaggle of 'em

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Hey Adywan, in shots like this...

http://img2.timeinc.net/ew/dynamic/imgs/050516/171325__trenchbattle_l.jpg

the laser blaster is missing from the wing. I bet U already cought it, but just letting U know.

 

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Oh yeah. Is it possible for U to make the stormtroopers talk cooler. most of them sound like nerds. Since they have horrible aim, they should at least sound intimidating.

 

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Kind of like this one Adywan.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtnWMDkhvsQ

It doesn't have to be Tuemeura Morrison's voice, but something cool if U want. It's completely up to you.

 

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Just a random question, Adywan--hopefully I haven't asked this before. Are you the same Adywan that was re-editing scene releases of movies, fixing up color and sound issues, quite a while back?

If that is you, you did some nice work, I kinda wish you'd get back into it a little bit.