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STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 REVISITED ADYWAN *720p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION — Page 111

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Originally posted by: Bobocop
Very pretty your DVD cover is, Ady.


I thought so, too, due to the avatar -- but that cover is Owen-Lars-Kenobi's, not Adywan's. And you're right -- it looks great!

By the way, O-L-K -- feel free to check your PMs.

And Adywan -- hearty congratulations on your progress! I'm eagerly awaiting the upcoming release, along with everyone else. Though I'm wondering if I should wait until the DVD-9 release, to watch it for the first time in its full glory, or if I should just get it as soon as it is released, on DVD-5?

Take care,
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Originally posted by: Owen-Lars-Kenobi
Just thought I might post a preview of my dvd cover for this project.

It looks absolutely amazing, but wouldn't it be better if you moved the ties in the back up a little?
Nevertheless, I think it'll be hard to beat this one!
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Adywan, very cool that you're nearing the end. Is your PIF chain for NTSC in the US covered at this point? I'd like to volunteer if you still have an opening.

Owen-Lars-Kenobi, that's a beautiful cover. I take a slight issue with the use of the ESB Leia on the cover, but that's not your fault (it's the original artist's).

You know of the rebellion against the Empire?

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Whoops! O-L-K, it says episode "VI" on the spine!


Wow, thats embarrassing. I wonder how I missed that.
Well, its all better now.
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Originally posted by: adywan
Well for that scene the mix was rebuilt from the ground up. Only the original center channel remains from the 2004 5.1 mix. I used the soundtrack Cd for the music. I was also able to enhance the soundtrack CD by using the 24-bit crystalizer that is part of the mixer of my X-FI fatality soundcard. I had to record the whole soundtrack by using "what you hear" because unfortunately it can only be used for listening to the audio and not able to use it as a filter on existing tracks but it has given it a slight sparkle to the mix. Most people probably won't even be able to hear the difference. To give the music a little more clarity i also overlayed the score to the original DVD mix L&R channels at a low volume with high frequencies enhanced by the equalizer.
Originally posted by: GoodMusician
Also... I noticed that the sound warbles in and out of tune... it's driving me crazy... do you all know why this is?

Is this on my clip? can you explain a little more?

Well its all going great at the moment. Only a few shots left now. I've just finished all the hologram shots for the rebel control room table during the battle that had plagued me for months. They all just suddenly fell into place after having the X-mas break so i'm well chuffed. If all goes according to plan you should see the XVID & DVD-5 barebones appear within the next couple of weeks with the DVD-9 & the NTSC versions appearing a few weeks after (if not sooner)

Happy New year


Well, as you can tell, I have reaaaallly sensitive ears. I can hear the changes you made in the clarity. Being an instrumentalist and being both an audio-phile and williams enthusiast, I could tell IMMEDIATELY how much clearer this was. I've been trying to do it myself... and yes, I'm very familiar with the "record as you go" method hehe...

I might have to test my sound cards abilits for that too although there is a slight loss through the analog ... oh well.

Anyways, What I meant about the warble isn't really like... profound... but there are certain moments where certain pitches don't seem right...

Like after the string shuffle... at about 4 seconds, the pitch is almost a half step off..

wait...

Hang on...

Are these clips in NTSC or PAL? If it's in PAL than that explains the difference.

And out of curiosity, do you guys have the Lucas Sound Effects Library?

I really like the edits your doing, but I think they could be tweaked just slightly more.

Like, the opening to the Mos Eisley is great and all, but after the speeder speeds away, all that's left is music. If they're entering a huge city, you should be hearing more than just the non-digetic music... hell, you could put some of the Episode I digetic music in, or even just put some city sfx crowd noises, things of that nature.

Also, you mentioned this is in 5.1, this is obviously a down mix right? Will the 5.1 have a bit more sfx work in it?

I'm curious becuase I have the Lucas SFX library and I also have a rather large library of Star Wars SFX and if they could be put to use, I'd be more than willing to do what I can to help an extrememly worthy project.

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You know, there is one cut I don't like...

As the troopers pass by the table with Han and Chewie, it cuts to chewie, and then Han gives his little talk about needing that money.

Then you cut to them running outside, and then it cuts back inside.

I wonder if it wouldn't be better to place the cut after the cut to chewie, but before Han talks?

Sort of have the troopers pass by, cut to Chewie looking at them, wipe to Luke and Obi-Wan outside talking about selling the speeder.
Then cut to Han telling chewie to get the ship ready or something... I guess that would still be awkward. It's kinda hard to say. Maybe you could insert a shot and then cut to them talking, or even cut them talking at all... just jump to Han leaving and running into Greedo... the fact that he needs the money isn't something he has to state since it becomes obvious in the next moment...



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I cannot wait for this edit. I just got an HD tv and blu ray player. This will be a very exciting month. So will this be available through a torrent site or will it be sent to a few by mail and those who have it copy it and pass it?
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I really dig that cover. Nice work.
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Well its all going great at the moment. Only a few shots left now. I've just finished all the hologram shots for the rebel control room table during the battle that had plagued me for months. They all just suddenly fell into place after having the X-mas break so i'm well chuffed. If all goes according to plan you should see the XVID & DVD-5 barebones appear within the next couple of weeks with the DVD-9 & the NTSC versions appearing a few weeks after (if not sooner)


No better way to ring in the New Year than to finally see your long awaited project, Ady. We all salute you and the work you've done on this edit.
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Originally posted by: Owen-Lars-Kenobi
Just thought I might post a preview of my dvd cover for this project.

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/867/foradywanvq7.jpg


I think thats one of the best post-1970's SW posters I've seen!

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OLK: Ditto the kudos on the DVD cover! It has so much soul.
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OLK, I really think that is one awesome cover. I may actually use it, holy crap!
Anyway, I know it's a WIP, but I think the back could be spiced up a bit... seems too normal to me right now. Like it mirrors the PT dvd's on the back, almost in style. And on the side, I noticed you have some sort of image there. Are you planning on making some for Ady's other edits and putting together a spine image?
Okay, now I'm being picky... but you know how the original SE covers had a note that it was "special edition" under the title? Well, maybe you could put 'REVISITED' there. I think it would look really nice.

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Sorry, OLK. I thought that was Adywan's cover because of the avatar. Very nice work, though! Best cover I've seen in a while!

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WOW great stuf OLK. with a few adjustments that cover will be awesome.
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Well i'm down to the final 2 shots now. But these 2 are going to take the longest. The first is the severed arm in the cantina and the second is the TIE approach at the battle of Yavin. The first is taking longer than i hoped because of having to build the proper hoofed hand from scratch and then match all the lighting to fit the original is a bit of a nightmare. The last one is in the process of rendering. To give you an idea of just how much work and time this shot requires then Will, the 3D guy, is rendering the TIES which will be composited on top of the background i have created. He is using the maxwell renderer and it looks great. But here's why this shot is taking so long.... It takes about 1 month to render the TIEs. One frame alone took 16 hours to render and its about 2/3 done so far, but it will be worth it once you see it on the screen. I can't thank Will enough for the time and effort he has put into this shot, and the death star meshes too.

Now that the video work is almost done, and all that is left to do at the moment is tweak the 5. mix a little in places, then i am about to start the painting that will be used for the official dvd cover.hopefully this will only take a couple of weeks

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In as far as the xvid version is concerned, I would recommend a 640 x 272 resolution if it isn't too late. This would make it more compatible with standalone avi players (me) and cleaner upscale for higher resolution displays.
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I hope the painting is a fun and relaxing cap to this thing.
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I know on page 1 you say that this will be in PAL and perhaps an NTSC release, and all those clips we've seen have been in pal, but is there any chance you might release this in NTSC as well? I haven't had the chance to read through all 140 pages lol...so I thought I'd ask.I apologize if this keeps getting asked.

I wouldn't care if it weren't for the fact that the music gets pitched up about a half step (although it's not quite... it's sometimes sounding a bit more... like a quarter tone as well...


Otherwise I couldn't care less...


And I know there was some talk about an ioslated score. You wouldn't feel that an ioslated score might be a misnomer in a sense... being the music alone but at the same time off pitch.

But past that it looks wonderful and however you do release it, I'll be sure to get a copy heh...

I just thought I'd ask if you'd thought much about it. I know you were talking just now about rendering frame by frame, and I'm not sure how you'd push it to NTSC unless you duplicate frames which is how I assume its done. Wouldn't know honestly....


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Musician, for the answer to your question you only need to look back 2 pages. Adywan is doing NTSC version few week after the PAL release.
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Dear Adywan,

Why don't you just cut the scene with the severed hand out completely. The scene could proceed with Obi-Wan wielding his light-saber, cutting, screams, commotion, and alien groaning as Obi-Wan eyes everyone in the room. It is self explanatory, and easier to edit. We have enough hands being cut off to say the least.

Anyway, great work on the edit.

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Originally posted by: adywan
Well i'm down to the final 2 shots now. But these 2 are going to take the longest. The first is the severed arm in the cantina and the second is the TIE approach at the battle of Yavin. The first is taking longer than i hoped because of having to build the proper hoofed hand from scratch and then match all the lighting to fit the original is a bit of a nightmare. The last one is in the process of rendering. To give you an idea of just how much work and time this shot requires then Will, the 3D guy, is rendering the TIES which will be composited on top of the background i have created. He is using the maxwell renderer and it looks great. But here's why this shot is taking so long.... It takes about 1 month to render the TIEs. One frame alone took 16 hours to render and its about 2/3 done so far, but it will be worth it once you see it on the screen. I can't thank Will enough for the time and effort he has put into this shot, and the death star meshes too.

Now that the video work is almost done, and all that is left to do at the moment is tweak the 5. mix a little in places, then i am about to start the painting that will be used for the official dvd cover.hopefully this will only take a couple of weeks


WOW. That's insane! He is using Maxwell renderer? He should use vray or mental ray, both are way faster than maxwell and look just as good. Anyway, it's great to see all this coming together! Can't wait! Keep up the awesome work ady!
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Originally posted by: Jamshid
Why don't you just cut the scene with the severed hand out completely. The scene could proceed with Obi-Wan wielding his light-saber, cutting, screams, commotion, and alien groaning as Obi-Wan eyes everyone in the room. It is self explanatory, and easier to edit. We have enough hands being cut off to say the least.
I don't want to cut things just because i haven't been able to finish them yet. I'm not going to rush anything just so i can get it out as soon as possible.
Originally posted by: GoodMusician
I know on page 1 you say that this will be in PAL and perhaps an NTSC release, and all those clips we've seen have been in pal, but is there any chance you might release this in NTSC as well? I haven't had the chance to read through all 140 pages lol...so I thought I'd ask.I apologize if this keeps getting asked.

I wouldn't care if it weren't for the fact that the music gets pitched up about a half step (although it's not quite... it's sometimes sounding a bit more... like a quarter tone as well...


Otherwise I couldn't care less...


And I know there was some talk about an ioslated score. You wouldn't feel that an ioslated score might be a misnomer in a sense... being the music alone but at the same time off pitch.

But past that it looks wonderful and however you do release it, I'll be sure to get a copy heh...

I just thought I'd ask if you'd thought much about it. I know you were talking just now about rendering frame by frame, and I'm not sure how you'd push it to NTSC unless you duplicate frames which is how I assume its done. Wouldn't know honestly....

Well i will be releasing it as a true NTSC version too. Its pretty easy to convert it to NTSC from PAL. All i have to do is change the framerate to 23.976which won't mean adding any frames(plus resize from 720 x 576 down to 720 x 480) and then the soundtrack slowed down in both time & pitch for NTSC. The same will be done for the isolated score track too

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Really nice cover, Ady.

I was wondering if you had put any thought to doing a list of each change that you made to the film. This would be neat to have as an optional subtitle track that pops up at each alteration, or as just a txt file in the DVD-ROM folder. Or, were you more interested in letting people just notice things on their own? Just curious.
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Originally posted by: andy_k_250
Really nice cover, Ady.

I was wondering if you had put any thought to doing a list of each change that you made to the film. This would be neat to have as an optional subtitle track that pops up at each alteration, or as just a txt file in the DVD-ROM folder. Or, were you more interested in letting people just notice things on their own? Just curious.

Well on page 1 there is a list of almost all the changes made but i have forgot a few so i'll leave it for someone else to spot.

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