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STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 REVISITED ADYWAN *1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION — Page 52
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If it's solid enough to stop solid objects, it can be solid enough to block light, surely.
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Originally posted by: Uncanny Antman
Why wouldn't a lightsaber cast a shadow?
If it's solid enough to stop solid objects, it can be solid enough to block light, surely.
Why wouldn't a lightsaber cast a shadow?
If it's solid enough to stop solid objects, it can be solid enough to block light, surely.
The sun is solid, and it doesn't cast any shadow. Same with light bulbs. If an object emits light it is impossible it can cast a shadow.
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Originally posted by: NormanS
The sun is solid, and it doesn't cast any shadow. Same with light bulbs. If an object emits light it is impossible it can cast a shadow.
Originally posted by: Uncanny Antman
Why wouldn't a lightsaber cast a shadow?
If it's solid enough to stop solid objects, it can be solid enough to block light, surely.
Why wouldn't a lightsaber cast a shadow?
If it's solid enough to stop solid objects, it can be solid enough to block light, surely.
The sun is solid, and it doesn't cast any shadow. Same with light bulbs. If an object emits light it is impossible it can cast a shadow.
Bingo. It'd be like the flame of a blowtorch casting a shadow.
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You can see alternate footage of Ponda Babas cut off arm at 6:07!!
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Originally posted by: tweaker
Bingo. It'd be like the flame of a blowtorch casting a shadow.
Originally posted by: NormanS
The sun is solid, and it doesn't cast any shadow. Same with light bulbs. If an object emits light it is impossible it can cast a shadow.
Originally posted by: Uncanny Antman
Why wouldn't a lightsaber cast a shadow?
If it's solid enough to stop solid objects, it can be solid enough to block light, surely.
Why wouldn't a lightsaber cast a shadow?
If it's solid enough to stop solid objects, it can be solid enough to block light, surely.
The sun is solid, and it doesn't cast any shadow. Same with light bulbs. If an object emits light it is impossible it can cast a shadow.
Bingo. It'd be like the flame of a blowtorch casting a shadow.
Um... not to be argumenative here, but the sun obviously isnt casting any shadow because there isn't a larger, brighter object behind it. Lightbulbs will have shadows if they are next to other lit bulbs.
I do agree that the shadow ought to ba addressed. Even if it is to just soften it a bit.
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Originally posted by: DGC General X
They would cast shadows, tey'd cast light. It was just the glowing poll they used. Sorry I just wanted input
They would cast shadows, tey'd cast light. It was just the glowing poll they used. Sorry I just wanted input
Why don't you just shut up and go spam in another thread.
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Lightbulbs will have shadows if they are next to other lit bulbs.
The light bulb itself will, but not the light the bulb produces. Comparing a bulb to what is essentially a laser pole, for any lack of any other way of characterizing it, isn't a one to one comparison. It's comprised of very intense light, and that's about it. Try shining a beam of light perpendicular to another beam of light and see if you can get it to cast a shadow.
But what I really like is making the lightsaber have a surrounding glow, illuminating other objects. That looks really cool.
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Originally posted by: RemixerBoss
Why don't you just shut up and go spam in another thread.
Why don't you go away like you promised you drama queen attention whore.Originally posted by: DGC General X
They would cast shadows, tey'd cast light. It was just the glowing poll they used. Sorry I just wanted input
They would cast shadows, tey'd cast light. It was just the glowing poll they used. Sorry I just wanted input
Why don't you just shut up and go spam in another thread.
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As for the shadow thing. That's something that's always bugged me.
Watch Jedi. The throne room confrontation. When Luke's giving his"I will not fight you father" babble, you can quite clearly see Vader's lighsaber cast a shadow (obviously from the prop he's holding and not intentional). Later on when Luke's just cut off Vader's hand and he's standing over him, there's no shadow from Luke's saber. (again not intentional)
I've always thought that there should be no shadow from a lightsaber.
I suppose if the saber's close to an object there would be a fuzzy type of shadow occurring, but from a distance there would be nothing.
But what do I know, I'm no scientist.
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Maybe redoing the laser blasts and explosion would make that scene more real looking? To me the X-Wing laser blasts are HUGE when compared with the scale of the buildings, and the explosion and fire is what looks fake.....
I have attempted this after your suggestion but matting out the original lasers proved difficult and even with reducing the size of the lasers the shot still looks crappy.
yes, the rapidshare link is still active.
Ben's Death & TIE Fighter Attack
There have been some changes to this sequence since i posted it, new colour correction, added stars in the background of all the docking bay window shots & the opening shot of the TIE fighter cockpit window they don't start firing until the Falcon is in view.
one of the worst mistakes for me, has always been the lightsabers casting shadows and not really illuminating it's surroundings. Even in ROTS, the mistakes still ocurr. Do you think it would be too time consuming to actually remove every shadow?
I have attempted this after your suggestion but matting out the original lasers proved difficult and even with reducing the size of the lasers the shot still looks crappy.
"I've tried using HDTV footage from Jedi for the surface and added lukes X-wing diving in whilst blasting away..."
--Sounds interesting...Since you're not using that shot, you wanna post it?
sorry but i deleted this shot because i'm running out of hard drive space very fast.
Interesting idea but this is one thing i won't be adding.
Ady, Did you post a clip a while back of Vader vs. Obi with the final/completed versions of the lightsabers?
--Sounds interesting...Since you're not using that shot, you wanna post it?
sorry but i deleted this shot because i'm running out of hard drive space very fast.
Hey ADY. This is really stupid, but I was wondering if it is possible to put alien heads on some rebels bodies, just so it doesn't look all human if you know wat I mean. I know it's stupid, but just tell me wat Ur thoughts R on it.
Interesting idea but this is one thing i won't be adding.
Ady, Did you post a clip a while back of Vader vs. Obi with the final/completed versions of the lightsabers?
yes, the rapidshare link is still active.
Ben's Death & TIE Fighter Attack
There have been some changes to this sequence since i posted it, new colour correction, added stars in the background of all the docking bay window shots & the opening shot of the TIE fighter cockpit window they don't start firing until the Falcon is in view.
one of the worst mistakes for me, has always been the lightsabers casting shadows and not really illuminating it's surroundings. Even in ROTS, the mistakes still ocurr. Do you think it would be too time consuming to actually remove every shadow?
I attempted to remove shadows a while ago but i gave up because this was so difficult to do. shadows cast on walls were easy to remove but when they are cast on clothing and moving objects it is a lot more difficult to do so i dropped doing it. I will leave this for someone else to fix in their edit.
Now onto my progress:
I've had a break from FX work for a few days and have redone all of the colour correction i did for the death star interior scenes. I didn't like the video noise that the original correction caused, mainly when removing the blue from the horribly oversaturated walls. I've tackled this a different way and now have nice metalic grey walls without the noise so i'm happy with it now.
I will be having a short break from everything next week because i have just ordered parts to upgrade my PC. Finally getting my 2.4ghz core 2 duo machine, so its gonna take me a while to reinstall all the stuff i have on this machine now. But once its done i will be getting straight back to it. Yesterday i rendered the whole film as it stands so far and watched it on my PS3. The Ps3's DVD upscaling is great and i was surprised just how good it looked even with a single layer render. I counted 4 shots that i wasn't happy with the colour correction ans 1 FX shot that just didn't look quite right but i'm pleased with everything else.
And one final thing. RemixerBoss, i thought that you had decided to leave the boards after your little hissy fit? You proved you were only here for attention so you really don't have the right to tell someone in here to stop spamming especially if you had bothered to read the posts from DGC General X, then you would see that he wasn't. So please just do what you promised and bugger off, you are not welcome in this thread.
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Anyways, Ady you know when Tarkin is interrogating Leia and he says "then name the system" the sound quality in his voice is horrible. I was just wondering if its all cleared up, or if its even possible.
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Originally posted by: DGC General X
Sorry guys I don't know how to edit post. And sorry remixerboss for being a problem. I leve if you want me too, but I'll be back to see ady's finished work.
Anyways, Ady you know when Tarkin is interrogating Leia and he says "then name the system" the sound quality in his voice is horrible. I was just wondering if its all cleared up, or if its even possible.
Sorry guys I don't know how to edit post. And sorry remixerboss for being a problem. I leve if you want me too, but I'll be back to see ady's finished work.
Anyways, Ady you know when Tarkin is interrogating Leia and he says "then name the system" the sound quality in his voice is horrible. I was just wondering if its all cleared up, or if its even possible.
You don't have to apologise to RemixerBoss, he is just an ass. You're more than welcome here.
Yes, i will be attempting to fix the sound issues like the one you mentioned.
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personally I don't mind that scene...it reminds me of when the movie was made, a kind of a historical marker if you will....maybe we should be thankful that more of the movie didn't look like that.....
I love everybody. Lets all smoke some reefer and chill. Hug and kisses for everybody.
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Originally posted by: Owen-Lars-Kenobi
Adywan, I was just watching the 2006 original unaltered dvd of episode IV (are they usually reffered to as GOUT?), and all the scenes inside the sandcrawler looked completely different to me. They seemed to be much lighter, and I could see much more of the detail. Are those scenes in your version as dark as the official dvds, they were in the first 8min video you posted (the one with the disco music) or is my computer screen way to dark. I think it would make the shot where you added a battle droid look much nicer because in the original you can actually see alot of the detail.
Adywan, I was just watching the 2006 original unaltered dvd of episode IV (are they usually reffered to as GOUT?), and all the scenes inside the sandcrawler looked completely different to me. They seemed to be much lighter, and I could see much more of the detail. Are those scenes in your version as dark as the official dvds, they were in the first 8min video you posted (the one with the disco music) or is my computer screen way to dark. I think it would make the shot where you added a battle droid look much nicer because in the original you can actually see alot of the detail.
Unfortunately most of the detail in the dark areas has been lost in the 2004 DVD's and brightening these scenes any more than i have already would result in a lot of horrible video noise, but still without the detail in the darker areas, so my version is just slightly lighter than the 2004 DVD's.
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I don't know if you have seen it but here is a sample of it
I wish I had some 3-D Max experience but perhaps this is the best solution to fix that crappy model shot. Hopefully someone can pull through here.
"There's a reason why you were almost arrested for giving out those cards"
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Also, some other ideas...
When you get around to doing ROTJ, could you use the Lucasfilm logo from Tucker/Willow? Just to be different and sort of vintage.
And have you considered incorporating some of the short clips from the menus on the 2004 discs? They're interesting and have funky perspective changes that aren't in the film. Just wondering.
Keep up the good work, Ady.
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Could you possibly lift Jar Jar out of TPM and put him in one shot in ANH? Maybe somewhere in Mos Eisley? Like Where's Waldo? -- Where's Jar Jar?
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The sun dries out his skin!
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