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STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 REVISITED ADYWAN *1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION — Page 477

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There’s no reason why he can’t call him Darth.

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Really like most of the changes Ady, looks very rad. If anything, maybe make Vader’s lightsaber flicker a tiny little bit less?

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No comment needed from me. It looks great 😄

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DominicCobb said:

There’s no reason why he can’t call him Darth.

Because Darth is not his name and he’s never called him Darth before or since and no other Sith is addressed as just Darth. That’s 3 reasons.

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marioxb said:

adywan said:

OK, Here is the sneak peek at the new ANH:R HD edit of the Obi-Wan/ Vader duel.
The editing in the HD version differs slightly from the SD version . In the final version there will be two audio tracks: The main 5.1 track will be the music less versions, while track 2 will have the added music as seen in the original SD version of ANH:R

https://youtu.be/HHmlOcakOPs

Looks great! I just can’t help but think that, knowing what we now know, I don’t think Obi Wan would call him “Darth”, would he? I think Anakin or Vader would be better. Maybe both?

Try to imagine a scene where a younger Obi-Wan is confronting Count Dooku and says, “You can’t win, Count.” It feels like a perfectly natural line that he would say, in my opinion. So with that in mind, I think you can easily interpret it as Obi-Wan just calling him by his Sith title. In the past a lot of people have suggested Obi-Wan says it mockingly. Of course, all of this is a retroactive interpretation, but I think it works enough that it doesn’t warrant changing it.

Anyway, great work Ady!

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Very cool. The second audio track will that will have music playing during this scene (which I beleive will be Battle of the Heros) will I think be a much better fit with the fast pacing. One think I was wondering will it be a straight lift of the version from RotS or will you be using a instrumental version. I was wondering this as John Williams never used a chior in an of the ANH score so I felt that I could help it mesh more.

I also agree about the Darth thing, but its not bothered me until it was just pointed out.

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BedeHistory731 said:

It’s looking fantastic! I especially like how you straightened out the pylon in the first shot of Vader (which has bugged me for ages).

Also, speaking of sound mixes, will the mono mix insertions (Beru’s voice, “It’s secure,” “Blast it Wedge,” and the exterior cantina music) also return? There’s a new mono mix restoration in beta testing on the 4K77 forum.

yes, the mono mix insertions will be staying

marioxb said:

Looks great! I just can’t help but think that, knowing what we now know, I don’t think Obi Wan would call him “Darth”, would he? I think Anakin or Vader would be better. Maybe both?

I was going to write the reason why i think this line needs no alteration, but RogueLeader said exactly what i was going to write:

RogueLeader said:

Try to imagine a scene where a younger Obi-Wan is confronting Count Dooku and says, “You can’t win, Count.” It feels like a perfectly natural line that he would say, in my opinion. So with that in mind, I think you can easily interpret it as Obi-Wan just calling him by his Sith title. In the past a lot of people have suggested Obi-Wan says it mockingly. Of course, all of this is a retroactive interpretation, but I think it works enough that it doesn’t warrant changing it.

Telion said:

Very cool. The second audio track will that will have music playing during this scene (which I beleive will be Battle of the Heros) will I think be a much better fit with the fast pacing. One think I was wondering will it be a straight lift of the version from RotS or will you be using a instrumental version. I was wondering this as John Williams never used a chior in an of the ANH score so I felt that I could help it mesh more.

I think ANH is the only SW soundtrack where he doesn’t use a choir, same with it being the only one without the imperial march, so i think having one track appear with the choir would help it blend with the other films better.

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Why is Beru’s lines in the mono mix more preferable than in the stereo mix?

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EvantheKidDS said:

Why is Beru’s lines in the mono mix more preferable than in the stereo mix?

Different voice for beru and it I think sounds more natural.

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adywan said:

OK, Here is the sneak peek at the new ANH:R HD edit of the Obi-Wan/ Vader duel.
The editing in the HD version differs slightly from the SD version . In the final version there will be two audio tracks: The main 5.1 track will be the music less versions, while track 2 will have the added music as seen in the original SD version of ANH:R

https://youtu.be/HHmlOcakOPs

adywan said:

Actually the audio used is the 1997 SE theatrical 5.1 DTS throughout with only the dialogue for Vader using the 2011 DTS track because of the differences. Sound effects for the clashes have been added due to the editing. The mix for the 2011/2020 blu-rays is horrendous when compared to the 1997 5.1 DT theatrical. I’ve been noticing so many things missing from the blu-ray mixes; missing foley, sound effects coming from the wrong channels amongst other things. It also a very flat mix in places. So the final release audio track will be a combination of the 97 theatrical DTS & the 2001 blu-ray mix. The lines were swapped around in the original ANH:R, so i kept it that way. The old regrade i did was only ever going to used as a basis for this edit. This will have an updated grade

A definite improvement over the SD version. I like seeing that Obi-Wan doesn’t ignite his lightsaber first.

marioxb said:

Looks great! I just can’t help but think that, knowing what we now know, I don’t think Obi Wan would call him “Darth”, would he? I think Anakin or Vader would be better. Maybe both?

Keeping it as close to the original is the best way to go. If drastic changes like that are made, then it should only be done to enhance the scene.

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adywan said:

I think ANH is the only SW soundtrack where he doesn’t use a choir, same with it being the only one without the imperial march, so i think having one track appear with the choir would help it blend with the other films better.

Fair enough. Now more than ever I know how og fans must have felt in the lead up to TPM.

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Cloud City’s intro has a female vocal, yeah. ROTJ has choral as Luke gets aggressive on Vader.

I know I’ve made some very poor decisions recently.

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Hal 9000 said:

Cloud City’s intro has a female vocal, yeah. ROTJ has choral as Luke gets aggressive on Vader.

Plus the emperor’s theme, but I’d never noticed the one in the Cloud City intro, very cool that there are still new detail all these years later.

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For the end credits, I have a suggestion.

On Disney+, after the main credits finish, there’s this sequence of additional credits (for the voices of the international dubs) without music, and with simple text. Why not take that concept and utilize that for the people that helped you out with Revisited?

(The reason I asked is, I wanted to see if it was possible to keep the original theatrical pacing of the end credits, without putting in additional music or repeated segments, while at the same time still being able to put the names of the supporters and additional help)

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EvantheKidDS said:

For the end credits, I have a suggestion.

On Disney+, after the main credits finish, there’s this sequence of additional credits (for the voices of the international dubs) without music, and with simple text. Why not take that concept and utilize that for the people that helped you out with Revisited?

(The reason I asked is, I wanted to see if it was possible to keep the original theatrical pacing of the end credits, without putting in additional music or repeated segments, while at the same time still being able to put the names of the supporters and additional help)

I think this is a very good idea

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EvantheKidDS said:

For the end credits, I have a suggestion.

On Disney+, after the main credits finish, there’s this sequence of additional credits (for the voices of the international dubs) without music, and with simple text. Why not take that concept and utilize that for the people that helped you out with Revisited?

(The reason I asked is, I wanted to see if it was possible to keep the original theatrical pacing of the end credits, without putting in additional music or repeated segments, while at the same time still being able to put the names of the supporters and additional help)

The end credit music was already altered in 1997 for the SE’s, albeit just by repeating a segment. You can’t go back to the theatrical version of the score because of the extra credits already there. And i’m certainly not willing to remove people who worked on the SE’s just to have the theatrical timing the same as i am unwilling to have the names of those who have worked on and supported these projects just be tagged on at the end as some sort of afterthought. The way the credits will appear has already been established with ESB:R and that’s the way they will continue.

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@Adywan hdr might not be out of the cards Davinci had an update adding it. The Alaskan sandman is using it in his edit of the prequel trilogy and it looks great.

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RogueLeader said:

marioxb said:

adywan said:

OK, Here is the sneak peek at the new ANH:R HD edit of the Obi-Wan/ Vader duel.
The editing in the HD version differs slightly from the SD version . In the final version there will be two audio tracks: The main 5.1 track will be the music less versions, while track 2 will have the added music as seen in the original SD version of ANH:R

https://youtu.be/HHmlOcakOPs

Looks great! I just can’t help but think that, knowing what we now know, I don’t think Obi Wan would call him “Darth”, would he? I think Anakin or Vader would be better. Maybe both?

Try to imagine a scene where a younger Obi-Wan is confronting Count Dooku and says, “You can’t win, Count.” It feels like a perfectly natural line that he would say, in my opinion. So with that in mind, I think you can easily interpret it as Obi-Wan just calling him by his Sith title. In the past a lot of people have suggested Obi-Wan says it mockingly. Of course, all of this is a retroactive interpretation, but I think it works enough that it doesn’t warrant changing it.

Anyway, great work Ady!

Dooku is almost exclusively addressed as Dooku by Kenobi not Count (though that’s not really the point) and Count can and has been used as a singular address. Darth is however never used as a singular address by any character for any Sith. It doesn’t sound mocking, it’s phrased casually as if Kenobi is using it as a name which doesn’t fit how Kenobi addresses Vader before or since and people in general (he uses names not titles for basically everyone except the Emperor).

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Artan42 said:

DominicCobb said:

There’s no reason why he can’t call him Darth.

Because Darth is not his name and he’s never called him Darth before or since and no other Sith is addressed as just Darth. That’s 3 reasons.

Let Ben have his moment of fun mockingly calling his forner padawan with a Sith title. It’s in line with Ben character. Like Luke calling the Emperor “your Highness”: it’s a bit sarcastic.

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I don’t remember which animated show it was, but I remember him calling some other Darth “Darth” as well

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What if we voice dub Alec Guinness in that scene and make him completely and utterly verbally outclass Vader instead of the “Vader” line and “the duel”?

Something like:

“Hey, Anakin. I see your helmet is keeping your burned face from scaring away the imperial women”.

And then Vader goes straight for the kill, as Obi-Wan gives Luke a comfortable blink with the eye, before accepting his fate like a champ? All while Battle of the Heroes is roaring in the surround channels.

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Vader: “My powers have doubled since the last time we met, Kenobi.”
Kenobi: “You can’t win Darth, zero times two is still zero.”

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Although I don’t think it’s necessary, seeing Guiness’ “Anakin” from ROTJ dubbed in place over the “Darth” would be an interesting excercise for sure. The mouth would have to be animated a little extra