STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 REVISITED ADYWAN *1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION — Page 247

Thanks guys, I allways burn with Nero so it should be no problem :)

Here's how I got mine to work
(I didn't try to apply any fixes or extract anything... I had tried the whole complicated process for the plainfiles torrent before, but I just ended up with a major hiccup at the layer break and a freeze):

-Downloaded the ISO torrent

-Used Nero Image Recorder to convert to NRG format

-Burned with Nero5 to Memorex DVD+R DL (that I bought online)

It's interesting though. The first copy I burned played perfectly on my win2k pc (PowerDVD5), and when I tested it on a few players at my library most of them weren't even recognized (JVC and Toshiba, iirc). They'd say "bad disc" or "wrong disc" after trying to read it for awhile. One of the players was region free and it still couldn't read the media. However the disc played perfectly on a region free Pioneer player (that was also incidentally hooked up to a laserdisc player). I also tested it on an XP machine with one of those crappy bare bones versions of PowerDVD and it played fine. No pauses at the layer break for the ones that worked.

Now I burned a second copy, using the same media, same image, and it hiccups badly at the layer break, for about 10 seconds and then freezes. You have to manually navigate past or skip the scene to move on. Really weird. And there were no errors when it converted and when it burned.

I have some friends I want to show this to, but unfortunately they have cheap players, so it might not work. I know in the past I've burned movies to show them and sometimes they work, sometimes they don't, even though I always use the same media. My sister has a laptop that sometimes isn't able to read commercial DVDs, even though she has the same PowerDVD software. I don't get it.

Is Dual Layer media just harder for players to recognize than DVD5's?

PS: The first "plainfiles" DVD9 I burned I did at 2.4x speed as someone recommended. Didn't make any difference. The others I burned (the one that was perfect and the one that wasn't) I burned at "max" speed.

Ok well here it goes............. I am a new fan (want to be) to the star wars trilogy I have seen all the prequels but sadly I have never seen any of the original trilogly :(. Ok well I have the box set off all 3 of the OT and I wanted to know if I should whatch this version first or the SE ones. I wanted what ever is trueset to the original or just whatever yall think right now is the best version of the film you can get. So do yall think this is the best version of the film avaliable right now.

doubleofive said:

Wow, first time viewer.  Um, we'd love Revisited to be your first step into the larger world.  Let us know how you think it fits in with everything else!

I just have 2 more questions before I watch

1.Do you think this is better overall (Audio, Video, Movies Changes) Better than the box set that I have found is it just a better overall release and more true the original

2.What would be the truest thing I could get to the orignal on dvd. Would it be the laser discs transfers on the bonus disc of the SE edition dvds or would be something off of here(this website).

Thanks, I am really excited about watching Star Wars for the first time ever.

classicrock1169 said:

doubleofive said:

Wow, first time viewer.  Um, we'd love Revisited to be your first step into the larger world.  Let us know how you think it fits in with everything else!

I just have 2 more questions before I watch

1.Do you think this is better overall (Audio, Video, Movies Changes) Better than the box set that I have found is it just a better overall release and more true the original

2.What would be the truest thing I could get to the orignal on dvd. Would it be the laser discs transfers on the bonus disc of the SE edition dvds or would be something off of here(this website).

Thanks, I am really excited about watching Star Wars for the first time ever.

If you want the original: go with the bonus disc

Once you've seen that one, watch ady's version and be amazed ;-)

Then, if you're up to it, watch the 2004 DVD... and be shocked

Agreed - watch the original (the laserdisc transfer, which doesn't look as bad as everyone likes to bitch about), then watch REVISITED.

But don't watch the SE.  Or, you can watch bits and pieces to see just how badly done it is.

vbangle said:
Dude,

Almost everything about your post is wrong.

Bad media.

"Coverting" to NRG image

Burning at "max" speed

and you think this made your copy "work"?

Then please, HELP ME, show me what to do!

However, I suspect you didn't understand me.

Bad media

Unlikely as the discs burned, and one of them plays the movie perfectly (it is simply not readable by certain cheap DVD players, BUT WORKS WITH OTHERS). All of them play on my PC, just that some of them have a problem at the layer change (not just a "momentary pause" as been suggested)

Are you saying Memorex is a bad brand? Then please show me which brand I "should have used".

If the media is "bad" shouldn't they not burn at all, or be completely unreadable... NOT playable but have stuttering hiccups and long pauses as the layer change (but otherwise be fine)?

"Coverting" to NRG image

Is there a reason you put "Converting" in quotation marks? I really did convert it. It actually worked better after doing so. NERO on its own wouldn't burn the ISO file. Many people actually suggested using Nero to burn. Why aren't you calling those people out as "wrong" here?

Burning at "max" speed

I already tried burning at 2.4x speed as was suggested so many times. Result: Layer change problem. Burning at the slow speed had NO NOTICEABLE EFFECT on the disc that was burned.

and you think this made your copy "work"?

Then you please explain to me how the ONLY disc I've gotten perfect was converted to a NRG file, burned at Max speed, on Memorex media with Nero.

The copy I burned with ImgBurn (after painstakingly following the instructions from adywan with PGCEdit, etc at slow speed turned out two coasters and a copy with the stuttering layer change problem as before.

My only problem now is that by following the "golden" method that worked once already (NRG+max speed) turned out a second disc that had the same old layer change.

Note:

I have NOT, tried to take the ISO image, "extract it" (nobody has really detailed how I'm supposed to properly do that I don't think) and then add in the layer break manually (which supposedly is a compatability liability anyway) and THEN burn with ImgBurn with the "fingers crossed" burn-at-low-speed thing. Is THAT the magical way to do it, or what?

Please tell me...

I find it funny that you think I did everything wrong, and yet it has so far WORKED 1 out of 2 times using the method I just said! Yet doing it the "right way" (any of the "right ways" that have been explained thus far) has never worked once.

outdated.

;)

Nevermind, it started working again just now and I got it. Apparently RapidShare was just having a hiccup...

Still, it's pretty sad that NOBODY is seeding the PURIST Iso torrent (0 seeders).

Kurgan said:

 I have NOT, tried to take the ISO image, "extract it" (nobody has really detailed how I'm supposed to properly do that I don't think) and then add in the layer break manually (which supposedly is a compatability liability anyway) and THEN burn with ImgBurn with the "fingers crossed" burn-at-low-speed thing. Is THAT the magical way to do it, or what?

 

The latest version of WinRar can extract from iso files - that's how I did it. Meanwhile, download the fix Ady posted on fanedit.org; extract the files; overwrite the old files in VIDEO_TS; create the ISO with PGCEdit (another freeware program); burn the iso with ImgBurn (at 2.4x). The fix includes more detailed instructions, but that's the gist of it. You don't need to manually add a layer break.

I tried it with Fujifilm media and encountered the exact same errors you described (freezes at layer break and won't play in some machines). Did it again with Verbatim DL discs and it has worked perfectly. Definitely invest in some, it's worth it.

Hope that helps!

What's the latest version? I may not be up to date there in the winrar department...

I already purchased a spindle of Memorexes to start with, so I wasn't planning to buy a load more discs, but thanks for the info. Good for future reference... all my DVD5's are Sony brand and I never have any problems with those, but then DL seems to be a more finicky format.

This is really the only thing that would make me even attempt to use DL media, but it would be a lot less painful if they were more available (you can buy them at local stores in my area finally, but they're like twice as much as online).

I think Winrar is up to 3.8, chech out www.rarsoft.com for the latest.

This was the first thing I have burned Dual-layer as well... I had heard Verbatim was the way to go but they were sold out at my local store, so I bought the Fujis... when that didn't work I had to search out Verbatims (and luckily found them on sale). So I ended up wasting the dough on the fuji spindle, much as you you'd be wasting the money you spent on the memorexes... but when you see this version of the flick in all its glory, I think you will agree it's worth it!

joshua77 said:

I think Winrar is up to 3.8, chech out www.rarsoft.com for the latest.

This was the first thing I have burned Dual-layer as well... I had heard Verbatim was the way to go but they were sold out at my local store, so I bought the Fujis... when that didn't work I had to search out Verbatims (and luckily found them on sale). So I ended up wasting the dough on the fuji spindle, much as you you'd be wasting the money you spent on the memorexes... but when you see this version of the flick in all its glory, I think you will agree it's worth it!

 

Oh I've seen it all right, and it's awesome! I have ONE (1) perfect copy of the DVD9 that doesn't stutter at the layer break and works in (at least some) stand alone DVD players. The trouble is, the DVD9's not consistently burning perfectly. Some would say that's because I didn't buy the perfect media, or because I'm burning it too fast. Maybe I need a horse shoe and lucky rabbit's foot by my computer next time. ;)

Seriously though, I was all set to do the winrar thing (which would require me to re-download the ISO since I had to delete it to save space after making the NRG image) but now I'm not going to bother with it.

Correction: I'll get daemon tools and try what you suggested adywan, thanks! But this means I need to re-download the ISO again (sigh)

PS: It looks like only 1 person is seeding the DVD9 ISO torrent now (and 10 leechers).

Hey Adywan!

Quick question. Why was the spiraling star field effect removed when the Falcon goes into Hyperdrive? I always thought it was a nice transition piece for the ship since warp tunnel they're in spirals as well (At least more obviously in Return of the Jedi).

It also from my perspective dulls the sequence of the Falcon escaping Tatooine a bit, especially in your cut. You have the Falcon making a much faster and more exciting exit, spinning around in circles avoiding enemy fire and than you just have it shrink in the distance. It looks more like an image of the Falcon being zoomed out with a star field in front of it rather than speeding it's way forward. Not saying you should show it at a different angle, but the spinning star field gave the effect a more exciting feel to it. Now there are exceptions to this like having multiple ships go into warp like in Jedi, but that's ok. We all cheat. :)

Does it actually spin in the GOUT? I don't seem to remember (but I'm at work now and don't have my "bonus disc" handy to check).