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But then I took out my letterbox VHS set this weekend for a marathon viewing and while they held up surprisingly well, they were still glitchy, blurry VHS tapes. The fact is VHS sucks and they are deteriorating. And while I was watching this blurry ugly mess unfold before me, I began to think the unthinkable. Maybe I should get the DVDs. I mean they'll look a heck of a lot better than this! The SE's aren't that bad, most of the movie is untouched anyway right?
But as the movie went on I began to get sucked in by the story and soon forgot I was even watching VHS. Little details and subtle storytelling touches, things I had forgotten flooded back into my mind. It was like watching the Star Wars trilogy for the first time again! Even my brother who was never a fan like I was (he was too young back then) was excited.
I remembered why I love the original OT. Too many little things in the SE (Greedo shoots first, extraneous CGI, Luke's uncharacteristic scream) detract from the original version. The SE are simply not as good. I love the original Star Wars and while they may have been far from perfect (as Lucas believes) they worked then and still work now as magnificent storytelling.
So not to belabour my point, but will I definitely not buy the SE DVDs this September, but I'm hopeful they will be released in the future. Our cultural history deserves to be preserved and should be available to the public like all great works of art! I believe that George the artist can be convinced of this.
Perhaps a gigantic 12-disc set (ala the Alien Quad set with 2 discs each and multiple cuts per film) in 2007 will be the answer. Of course at that point I will wonder if it will be worth the price to buy 3 additional movies I dislike (PT) to own 3 movies I love (OT). After all, I didn't buy the Alien Quad set because of Alien3 and Resurrection, I opted for the individual releases instead. But I have a feeling that is dilemma that I would at least enjoy having the opportunity to wrestle with!
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Except the part about wanting to buy the DVDs. I wouldn't buy them for anything.
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If the only way to own the OT is to buy a £70 box set(don't know what that'll be in $) so we have the OT, PT and then the AE all in one box set. Would you buy it!
Coz like whatshisface said up there, and me too somewhere else on here, thats gonna happen I tell ya!!
In 2007 or whenever, Mr Lucas will release a super fuck off box set, with the OT on there!!
Just wait, and if it does happen will you buy it?!
Coz you'll own an even more fucked up version of the OT than the SE ever were!!!
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After all, I didn't buy the Alien Quad set because of Alien3 and Resurrection, I opted for the individual releases instead.
Alien 3 SE was like a totally different film!
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^^^Exactly how I felt when I watched ROTJ on laserdisc last night.
Except the part about wanting to buy the DVDs. I wouldn't buy them for anything.
Hey Hal, at least you were watching it on Laserdisc, try a decade-old VHS!
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After all, I didn't buy the Alien Quad set because of Alien3 and Resurrection, I opted for the individual releases instead.
Alien 3 SE was like a totally different film!
Well to be fair, I am a fan of Fincher's, and I had intended to buy the Quad set, but when Fox censored the Documentaries and cut out what Fincher really felt about the troubled production, I didn't think I would get what I would be paying for, which was the honest truth (or at least the closest to it).
About a future ultimate box set, for me this has always been about options. I don't care what George does and what ever further changes he has for the AEs as long as he kept the original versions available as well. The thing I like about DVDs is the inclusion of alternate cuts (and that's what the SE and etc. are). While I would prefer the option that they were available separately (like the Alien Quad and single releases), if the only way to get the OT was in a super-sized The Complete Star Wars Saga Sextology, (and I hate to say this, not to mention wasting money) I would probably buy it just to won the OT. The rest of it, I would consider interesting supplements.
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Indeed I am grateful to own a LD player. Good luck with your tapes.
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In 2007 or whenever, Mr Lucas will release a super fuck off box set, with the OT on there!!
Even this isn't a guarantee. Would I buy it? I sure as hell would like to.
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And here's another Rumor Mill-worthy bit of info. The Force.net has gotten wind that Lucasfilm's French press release for the Star Wars Trilogy DVDs says the set will include "exclusive cut scenes." Also, actress Carrie Fisher was apparently on U.K. TV yesterday, and reportedly confirmed that she's going to be doing audio commentary for the release. With any luck, Mark Hamill and Harrison Ford will chime in as well.
Can we say that ideally this will translate into more of the "lost" Biggs scenes along with Cammie?
Also, if he can get these lost scenes prepped and they still exist, it makes you wonder regarding the truth of his claim that the original cuts no longer exist. Why would he save these scenes and not an entire copy of the original cut of the film?
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Hmm! If George Lucas considers himself an artist, maybe these would be good arguments of persuasion. Maybe a film historian like Leonard Maltin could convince Lucas that it has historical value. Why else would the hull of the Titanic be preserved (weil, part of it, anyway) and be considered a landmark? Because it has historical value. As does the original theatrical cuts of Star Wars, The Empire Strikes Back and Return Of The Jedi. They are a huge part of film history. In 1977, Star Wars raised the standard for special effects....without computer generated images. How about everone that worked on the films during their production. Should everything the original crew did be long forgotten because their original work is now obsolete? I should hope he's not such an insensitive asshole as to forget the people that helped make them movies the success they are. Changing everything on there to CGI would be doing just that. I think writing him a letter and using art/film historical value as a persuasion argument is the best bet. As I posted in another thread, you can express your arguments at:
George Lucas
c/o Lucasfilm Ltd.
P.O. Box 2009
San Rafael, CA 94912
U.S.A.
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A well reasoned entreaty will always be better received than spam, angry threats, or boycotts that will only antagonize Lucas corp, other SW fans, and even the general public who will dismiss us as a bunch of whiny fanboys.
I've already written my letter to Lucas and while I don't expect a response (or it even reaching Lucas) I hope whoever does read it will get the notion that cherishing the originals is something that benefits everyone. And if they receive consistent reminders, the idea may take hold that this is something that everyone will want. After all, it's about our collective art and culture. Once people start believeing that it is a positive idea to preserve the originals along side with all the new SE/UE versions, Lucas may very well change his mind.
It will take time. There is still some venomous resistence out there, and fans who enjoy bickering amongst themselves too much. But if we can spread this 'new' idea and get everyone behind us on loving all of Star Wars New AND OLD, then who knows?
I hope others will join me to convince Lucas et al. May the force be with us
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Kevin made a surprise appearance on WFLD FOX 32 in Chicago on today's 12 o'clock news, in a piece about the upcoming DVD release of the Star Wars trilogy. In it, concerns were expressed over the fact that the 1997 Special Edition versions were being released and not the original versions. Kevin appeared in a small interview with none other to give his thoughts on the first trilogy's release. Our scooper didn't remember the exact words, but Kev basically said that he was glad that any versions of the Star Wars films were coming to DVD, although he would eventually like to see the original versions released as well.
By the way, that's my FOX affiliate. He was in Chicago all day on Wednesday trumping Jersey Girl and hit a ton of radio stations, TV stations, and college roundtables.
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