Rogue Zero - What was changed, reshot, etc in Rogue One? — Page 6

Well, of course! Those two statues are cribbed from the design of the Valley of the Jedi in LucasArts’ Jedi Knight.

Good find! 😄

Do not have a clue about that… I thought I discovered a new thing! 😄

https://uk.movies.yahoo.com/rogue-ones-editors-reveal-scenes-added-in-the-star-wars-standalone-reshoots-exclusive-110124381.html

Answers?

Emphasis mine:

Yahoo Movies: How did the reshoots change the film?

John Gilroy: They gave you the film that you see today. I think they were incredibly helpful. The story was reconceptualised to some degree, there were scenes that were added at the beginning and fleshed out. We wanted to make more of the other characters, like Cassian’s character [Cassian Andor, the Rebel spy played by Diego Luna], and Bodhi’s character [Bodhi Rook, the defected Imperial pilot played by Riz Ahmed].

The scene with Cassian’s introduction with the spy, Bodhi traipsing through Jedha on his way to see Saw, these are things that were added. Also Jyn [Jyn Erso, the reluctant leader of the film, played by Felicity Jones], how we set her up and her escape from the transporter, that was all done to set up the story better.

Of course, things like that have a ripple effect all through the movie so there was a lot of work to do, and as Colin said, there were three of us, we rolled up our sleeves and we got to work and made the movie you see.

Colin Goudie: It was like life imitating art. Let’s get a band of people and put them together on this secret mission and that’s what’s happening in the film but that’s also what was happening editorially.

We were all jumping in and taking part in the mission and pulling that master switch. It was a bit like that really.

John Gilroy: I don’t know who’s Jyn or who’s Cassian, but it’s a good analogy, I like that analogy.

Colin Goudie: All we need is the blind monk and I think we’re good to go. A blind editor doesn’t sound so good though.

The point with the opening scenes that John was just describing was that the introductions in the opening scene, in the prologue, was always the same. Jyn’s just a little girl, so when you see her as an adult what you saw initially was her in a meeting. That’s not a nice introduction.

So having her in prison and then a prison break out, with Cassian on a mission… everybody was a bit more ballsy, or a bit more exciting, and a bit more interesting.

They got there eventually in the film, but this way we came in on the ground running, which was better.

John Gilroy: It became very important to plant the seeds the right way, you’ve got to set up the movie the right way, and then things pay off in the second and third acts.

Yahoo Movies: How much of the film’s final third changed?

John Gilroy: It changed quite a bit. The third act has a lot going on. You have like seven different action venues, the mechanics of the act changed quite a bit in terms of the characters, and I don’t want to go into too much detail about what had been there before, but it was different.

We moved some of the things that our heroes did, they were different in the original then they were as it was conceived.

Because you needed to figure that out, and everything else changes. Everything was connected to everything so doing something to one venue would change all the other venues, so really we had to… we were working on that until the last minute, because we working closely with ILM, they were giving us temporary shots and we’d put them in, we’d work them, we’d reconceive again.

It was really like a very tight puzzle and we had to keep honing that and honing that, and I’m very proud of what we did there.

Yahoo Movies: Did you face any continuity issues blending the new stuff with the old stuff?

John Gilroy: That’s mostly a production issue. The whole thing on a ‘Star Wars’ movie you have such professionalism at every level. Everybody that’s working on the movie is just at the top of their game so that wasn’t so hard for us.

John Gilroy said:

But we were only interested in the right way. We were interested in the right way and that’s what we went for.

Yes, thanks for that insight, John…

Great find, 005! I’ve made adjustments to the first two posts accordingly. That interview certainly puts some pieces together!

timdiggerm said:

• The film originally went directly from young Jyn being rescued by Saw to Jyn being taken before the Rebels to be sent to Jedha, with no introductory scene for Cassian and no rescue on Wobani.

The article says that the next time we see Jyn was at her interrogation, not necessarily that it was the next scene. There could have been other scenes before then, but not her flashback with Saw (Young Jyn vs Younger Jyn), of course.

Good point, and I’ve changed the wording slightly to match. Sounds like, given the lack of any major deleted scenes, that there wasn’t anything huge in there that we’re lacking, though - but I’m sure that version of the briefing was the surlier, “I rebel” Jyn.

I assumed that hard-edged Jyn seen in the trailers and the novelization (from what I hear) was cut out during previews as being less likable, but it says in the article that they didn’t have previews. They just had second thoughts and replaced that character somehow.

Ocean’s 11?

Alderaan, if you’re not here to help figure out what was changed, reshot, etc on Rogue One, but just to talk more about what you didn’t like about it, why are you in this thread?

timdiggerm, as I understand the new rules, I’m not allowed to complain about other posts, but as the thread starter you have the right to declare such digressions off topic. I leave it to you.

Alderaan said:

I made a response to your post, which was completely on topic, you then asked me a question, which I responded to just as you asked, and then you didn’t like the answer so you complain about it.

Story checks out.

No, I just remembered what thread we’re in. I’m sorry I kept going off topic, but you asked a simple question so you got a quick answer. We get it, you hold Star Wars to some kind of higher ideal that apparently the actual movies can’t live up to.

Whereas this is a thread for piecing together what the “original” or unreleased cut(s) of Rogue One contained,

and whereas this discussion, starting with Alderaan’s comment, has turned into an argument about whether or not a certain type of film must contain certain elements, which is not the purpose of this thread,

and whereas I have now read the new Rules and Guidelines,

I declare that you guys are getting off topic, and ask that you take your argument to another thread, such as the main Rogue One discussion thread.

Back on topic, I’m intrigued by the two jedi statues, but worry that it’s just flipped shots?

Alderaan said:

Do you want to hold up a specific example for analysis?

Dirty Dozen? Magnificent 7? Adjective Numeral?

Please Ignore This Comment.

timdiggerm said:
I’m intrigued by the two jedi statues, but worry that it’s just flipped shots?

This is what I thought first, but if you watch them carefully (in particular the cape); also, the lightsaber placement in relation with the statue itself; you can note that they “seem” different. To me, at least.

I think it would be neat to see an image of Jedha in the days of the Old Republic.

I feel like the history of Jedha actually mirrors the history of the Jedi pretty closely. It seems far more ancient than just the Old Republic.

On topic: I think that they’re two different statues.

^…^ said:

timdiggerm said:
I’m intrigued by the two jedi statues, but worry that it’s just flipped shots?

This is what I thought first, but if you watch them carefully (in particular the cape); also, the lightsaber placement in relation with the statue itself; you can note that they “seem” different. To me, at least.

Two Jedi statues would also be consistent with the particular design inspiration here: there were two huge Jedi statues guarding the Valley of the Jedi in LucasArts’ 1997 Jedi Knight.