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Don’t forget the part where Krennic lands too far away from everything. Now, it doesn’t have to bother you, but you still have to mention it, otherwise you’ve not done a proper review of Act One.
My memory is poor too, but from what I remember, I thought that’s what that Rebel Politician was discussing with Cassian, in private; to take out Saw when given the chance. In extension, I guess killing Galen would be also on the agenda since I suppose that Rebel guy thought Galen and Saw could be working together some how…?
Ah… no.
Galen Erso sent Bodhi Rook (the pilot with the message about the Death Star) to Saw, because Galen trusts Saw (as we saw [hah] in the opening scene) and presumably doesn’t know he’s since gone a bit insane.
Cassian finds out about the pilot and Galen’s message from Tivik (the informant he kills on the Ring of Kafrene who works as an Alliance informant inside of Saw’s sect), then takes this intel to the Mon Mothma and the other Rebels on Yavin IV. They obviously want to know more about this alleged “planet killer,” but they can’t just go talk to Saw because he’s gone super extremist and kills their people, so they decide to bust Jyn Erso out because they know she’s close to Saw and he possibly won’t kill her so that they have a chance to set up a meeting with Saw about Galen’s message.
Jyn and Cassian are sent to set up this meeting and to see if the pilot can lead them to Galen himself, ostensibly to extract him because of what he knows, but General Draven (at least him, Mon Mothma might have sanctioned it too, but we dunno) catches Cassian as they’re about to leave for Jedha to see Saw (hah) and tells him to “forget what he heard” in the briefing about extracting Galen and that he’s too dangerous to be left alive to potentially develop more weapons for the Empire, and that he must be killed on sight.
And that’s the first act of Rogue One. =P
Keep Circulating the Tapes.
END OF LINE
(It hasn’t happened yet)
Don’t forget the part where Krennic lands too far away from everything. Now, it doesn’t have to bother you, but you still have to mention it, otherwise you’ve not done a proper review of Act One.
My memory is poor too, but from what I remember, I thought that’s what that Rebel Politician was discussing with Cassian, in private; to take out Saw when given the chance. In extension, I guess killing Galen would be also on the agenda since I suppose that Rebel guy thought Galen and Saw could be working together some how…?
Ah… no.
Galen Erso sent Bodhi Rook (the pilot with the message about the Death Star) to Saw, because Galen trusts Saw (as we saw [hah] in the opening scene) and presumably doesn’t know he’s since gone a bit insane.
Cassian finds out about the pilot and Galen’s message from Tivik (the informant he kills on the Ring of Kafrene who works as an Alliance informant inside of Saw’s sect), then takes this intel to the Mon Mothma and the other Rebels on Yavin IV. They obviously want to know more about this alleged “planet killer,” but they can’t just go talk to Saw because he’s gone super extremist and kills their people, so they decide to bust Jyn Erso out because they know she’s close to Saw and he possibly won’t kill her so that they have a chance to set up a meeting with Saw about Galen’s message.
Jyn and Cassian are sent to set up this meeting and to see if the pilot can lead them to Galen himself, ostensibly to extract him because of what he knows, but General Draven (at least him, Mon Mothma might have sanctioned it too, but we dunno) catches Cassian as they’re about to leave for Jedha to see Saw (hah) and tells him to “forget what he heard” in the briefing about extracting Galen and that he’s too dangerous to be left alive to potentially develop more weapons for the Empire, and that he must be killed on sight.
And that’s the first act of Rogue One. =P
That clears that up then, thank you.
Darn these Saw puns!
Don’t forget the part where Krennic lands too far away from everything. Now, it doesn’t have to bother you, but you still have to mention it, otherwise you’ve not done a proper review of Act One.
Obviously, they needed to conserve their fuel to get to Coruscant, afterwards.
The Rise of Failures
My memory is poor too, but from what I remember, I thought that’s what that Rebel Politician was discussing with Cassian, in private; to take out Saw when given the chance. In extension, I guess killing Galen would be also on the agenda since I suppose that Rebel guy thought Galen and Saw could be working together some how…?
Ah… no.
Galen Erso sent Bodhi Rook (the pilot with the message about the Death Star) to Saw, because Galen trusts Saw (as we saw [hah] in the opening scene) and presumably doesn’t know he’s since gone a bit insane.
Cassian finds out about the pilot and Galen’s message from Tivik (the informant he kills on the Ring of Kafrene who works as an Alliance informant inside of Saw’s sect), then takes this intel to the Mon Mothma and the other Rebels on Yavin IV. They obviously want to know more about this alleged “planet killer,” but they can’t just go talk to Saw because he’s gone super extremist and kills their people, so they decide to bust Jyn Erso out because they know she’s close to Saw and he possibly won’t kill her so that they have a chance to set up a meeting with Saw about Galen’s message.
Jyn and Cassian are sent to set up this meeting and to see if the pilot can lead them to Galen himself, ostensibly to extract him because of what he knows, but General Draven (at least him, Mon Mothma might have sanctioned it too, but we dunno) catches Cassian as they’re about to leave for Jedha to see Saw (hah) and tells him to “forget what he heard” in the briefing about extracting Galen and that he’s too dangerous to be left alive to potentially develop more weapons for the Empire, and that he must be killed on sight.
And that’s the first act of Rogue One. =P
That clears that up then, thank you.
Darn these Saw puns!
They were both accidental, I swear.
Keep Circulating the Tapes.
END OF LINE
(It hasn’t happened yet)
Don’t forget the part where Krennic lands too far away from everything. Now, it doesn’t have to bother you, but you still have to mention it, otherwise you’ve not done a proper review of Act One.
Obviously, they needed to conserve their fuel to get to Coruscant, afterwards.
The entire first act is one big city.
Don’t forget the part where Krennic lands too far away from everything. Now, it doesn’t have to bother you, but you still have to mention it, otherwise you’ve not done a proper review of Act One.
Obviously, they needed to conserve their fuel to get to Coruscant, afterwards.
The entire first act is one big city.
you must have not noticed the title cards…
Don’t forget the part where Krennic lands too far away from everything. Now, it doesn’t have to bother you, but you still have to mention it, otherwise you’ve not done a proper review of Act One.
Obviously, they needed to conserve their fuel to get to Coruscant, afterwards.
The entire first act is one big city.
you must have not noticed the title cards…
The first scene is the first act. Everything else is a flashforward.
I think the complaint about Krennic landing a mile away from everything is justified, but I’m not going to get stuck on something like that too much.
I just wanna address this because it was my first thought in the theater and I quickly explained it to myself, so the continual complaints about it have been bothering me for a bit.
Obviously, from a cinematic standpoint, landing further away gives you the drama and tension of the walk to the house. We all know that much. But “cinematically good” doesn’t always make sense realistically.
So, from an in-universe realism standpoint, there are a few reasons to land far away.
First, there’s the matter of finding a level place to set down that can support the weight of a craft that probably weighs at least a dozen tons. We can see in this image that most of the terrain on the close side of the green band is pretty rocky and uneven. From what I’ve read about Lah’mu, it’s a planet with lots of volcanic and geyser activity, so it’s possible that a lot of the ground isn’t stable or solid enough to support the weight of a shuttle (I’m assuming they can scan the surface/subsurface to find a suitable place to land as well). You don’t want to set down and immediately break through the surface and land in lava or scalding water, and you don’t want to set down all cockeyed, either.
Second, there’s the chance that they’re taking precautions in case the Erso’s mined or otherwise trapped the surrounding area, considering he’s hiding from the Empire and has known Rebel connections. Generally in a military operation you land a bit farther out and then move in, get what you need, and move back out to an extraction point. So it could be a tactical move.
Third, I remember watching the Star Destroyer take off over Jedha and wondering if there was any kind of jet wash from an action like that. Then later on, my question was answered when the jet wash from Krennic’s shuttle nearly blows Jyn off the platform on Eadu. So it comes down to a matter of politeness: I wouldn’t want a giant shuttle with the ability to blow a person several meters back with its jet wash landing in my backyard and whipping up rocks and dust and breaking my windows and knocking over my moisture vaporators and making a ton of noise. It’s just plain good starship etiquette to land further out and walk a bit to prevent that, especially when you’re making a “social call” to “appeal to a friend” to help you with a project.
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END OF LINE
(It hasn’t happened yet)
I was thinking initially that Krennic was being polite not to land his shuttle on fertile farming ground and thus appear more personable towards Galen.
But I’d say you provide an above and beyond solid reason
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The Rise of Failures
Lost internet this afternoon while I was trying to post the rest of my review, so I’ll pick up now where I left off here:
http://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/1025415
Act II sees the action move to Jedha, and finally we start to get some semblance of a cohesive narrative. K2SO provides needed comic relief. I really liked the occupied city setting. Unfortunately, I feel like it was a mistake to introduce the Rebels on Yavin 4 before we get this sequence. Dramatically, I’m sure it would have worked better to flow from the bad things the bad guys are doing to the good things the good guys are doing, not the reverse. Oh well.
Meanwhile, we get introduced to yet more characters: the Chinese(?) guys. I like the blind guy in this movie but he was overused in many respects, while his strengths were diminished in other respects, thanks to the dialogue of other characters. The “I’m one with Force, and the Force is with me” mantra works well enough for me. He fights in battle, and that works well enough for me too. He does have some funny lines. But the filmmakers overuse him quite a bit, particularly in his fight scene on the streets of Jedha. The farcical tone of some of that action (along with quasi-slapstick comedy from K2SO) really misses the mark and does not match with what should be darker themes and moods going on in the rest of the movie. How can you go from a camera shot of a small child painfully crying in the street, and Jyn rescuing her with real concern on her face, to a guy doing martial arts comedy and a droid cracking jokes all in the same sequence? Just doesn’t make sense.
Perhaps more egregious, however, was that the other characters steal this guy’s thunder. Imagine, for a second, how much more this character would resonate if he were the ONLY person in the movie who actually believes in the Force. That last scene of his near the end of the film would have been so much more powerful and meaningful. The whole movie would have just worked better if you have this one guy constantly talking about the Force, while the other characters take turns either dismissing him or treating him with some apprehension. Instead, his buddy mocks him one time in the whole movie and that’s it. Jyn and others constantly say “may the Force be with you”, and it just diminishes this guy’s character so much.
From there, we move onto the part where Jyn and Saw are reunited. I don’t really have much more to say about Saw and how pointless he is in the film, except that we just don’t get anywhere near enough background to care about this guy. It’s hilarious and sad at the same time that such a useless character received such a melodramatic and drawn out death scene. The guy was in like two or three scenes ffs. Why does he just stand there and wait to die while the others escape? He screams “remember the dream!” or something at Jyn instead of running like everyone else and trying to survive. Unreal. Meanwhile, the Death Star death-lasers that area of the planet and I just rolled my eyes at how much time all of these people had to escape. This whole sequence is a severe blemish on the film.
Finally, that brings us to Tarkin and the Death Star. I really don’t like the idea of them being in the movie at all. I explained that. Krennic should be the only villain, he should have a star destroyer and a fleet at his disposal, the Death Star should be alluded to over and over again in the dialogue, and some people should fear its potential, while others dismiss its threat. Tarkin need not be mentioned at all.
Instead, the Death Star does not remain an intimidating off-screen threat left to be revealed in A New Hope. We get to see people easily escape when it attacks a planet. We get to see it commanded by a tasteless CGI character who looks like a video game cut-scene. We get new continuity errors with regard to the original Star Wars film. And we get the bonus effect of Alderaan’s destruction being just “another one bites the dust”.
I’ll continue on with the part where Cassian and Jyn go to her father in Part 3.
Preview:
That was the part where–from a filmmaking point of view–my mind got blown. I couldn’t see the movie the same again.
Not sure if anyone else saw Saw’s (ugh) legs when they show him walking up to Bodhi in his first scene, but they look like they were built in a cave with a box of scraps (and not by Tony Stark) and I can almost guarantee you that that is as fast as he moves. He’s on life support basically. He has to stop talking every few minutes to use his inhaler. He tells Jyn “there’s not much of me left.” Dude wasn’t goin’ anywhere and would have been a burden if he had.
Keep Circulating the Tapes.
END OF LINE
(It hasn’t happened yet)
Lost internet this afternoon while I was trying to post the rest of my review, so I’ll pick up now where I left off here:
http://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/1025415
Act II sees the action move to Jedha, and finally we start to get some semblance of a cohesive narrative. K2SO provides needed comic relief. I really liked the occupied city setting. Unfortunately, I feel like it was a mistake to introduce the Rebels on Yavin 4 before we get this sequence. Dramatically, I’m sure it would have worked better to flow from the bad things the bad guys are doing to the good things the good guys are doing, not the reverse. Oh well.
Meanwhile, we get introduced to yet more characters: the Chinese(?) guys. I like the blind guy in this movie but he was overused in many respects, while his strengths were diminished in other respects, thanks to the dialogue of other characters. The “I’m one with Force, and the Force is with me” mantra works well enough for me. He fights in battle, and that works well enough for me too. He does have some funny lines. But the filmmakers overuse him quite a bit, particularly in his fight scene on the streets of Jedha. The farcical tone of some of that action (along with quasi-slapstick comedy from K2SO) really misses the mark and does not match with what should be darker themes and moods going on in the rest of the movie. How can you go from a camera shot of a small child painfully crying in the street, and Jyn rescuing her with real concern on her face, to a guy doing martial arts comedy and a droid cracking jokes all in the same sequence? Just doesn’t make sense.
Perhaps more egregious, however, was that the other characters steal this guy’s thunder. Imagine, for a second, how much more this character would resonate if he were the ONLY person in the movie who actually believes in the Force. That last scene of his near the end of the film would have been so much more powerful and meaningful. The whole movie would have just worked better if you have this one guy constantly talking about the Force, while the other characters take turns either dismissing him or treating him with some apprehension. Instead, his buddy mocks him one time in the whole movie and that’s it. Jyn and others constantly say “may the Force be with you”, and it just diminishes this guy’s character so much.
From there, we move onto the part where Jyn and Saw are reunited. I don’t really have much more to say about Saw and how pointless he is in the film, except that we just don’t get anywhere near enough background to care about this guy. It’s hilarious and sad at the same time that such a useless character received such a melodramatic and drawn out death scene. The guy was in like two or three scenes ffs. Why does he just stand there and wait to die while the others escape? He screams “remember the dream!” or something at Jyn instead of running like everyone else and trying to survive. Unreal. Meanwhile, the Death Star death-lasers that area of the planet and I just rolled my eyes at how much time all of these people had to escape. This whole sequence is a severe blemish on the film.
Finally, that brings us to Tarkin and the Death Star. I really don’t like the idea of them being in the movie at all. I explained that. Krennic should be the only villain, he should have a star destroyer and a fleet at his disposal, the Death Star should be alluded to over and over again in the dialogue, and some people should fear its potential, while others dismiss its threat. Tarkin need not be mentioned at all.
Instead, the Death Star does not remain an intimidating off-screen threat left to be revealed in A New Hope. We get to see people easily escape when it attacks a planet. We get to see it commanded by a tasteless CGI character who looks like a video game cut-scene. We get new continuity errors with regard to the original Star Wars film. And we get the bonus effect of Alderaan’s destruction being just “another one bites the dust”.
I’ll continue on with the part where Cassian and Jyn go to her father in Part 3.
Preview:
That was the part where–from a filmmaking point of view–my mind got blown. I couldn’t see the movie the same again.
Which begs the question, why would anyone watch this without having seen the original Star Wars?
Where were you in '77?
Why would anyone watch this and not pay attention?
It feels weird to be in the minority on this, from what I’ve seen in video reviews, but I really found that mantra annoying. It’s said so quickly and then repeated over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over. I would have immensely preferred if he said it more slowly and repeat it far less often as he did in the film. In regard to his significance being diminished, perhaps you could say Chirrut finally inspired the rest of the characters to believe in the Force again through his actions. Right from the start of the film, Jyn’s mother says, “Trust in the Force,” and so Jyn may have forgotten to “trust” in the Force over the years. She still clings onto her necklace as a reminder, but it serves, I think, as a weak sense of hope that needs to be ignited again. That’s where Chirrut’s character comes in. I don’t think there’s much need for the other characters to give him the cold shoulder when he already demonstrated how in tune with the Force he was. Hell, even before that fight, he managed to “see” Jyn in that crowd just by sensing the energy from Jyn’s kyber-crystal necklace; essentially he won Jyn over from any doubts. His friend probably just likes to be that good ol’ buddy that teases you for this and that, but chooses to be more stubborn in their own way of approaching things. Admittedly, we unfortunately don’t know the origin of that friendship, so I do agree some emotional impact was lost regardless when Chirrut dies in Blaze’s arms. I still, however, think that Chirrut’s role isn’t that diminished and instead he serves his role about the Force in a more subtle manner (just for the love of god, the way that mantra was handled, blah).
Saw is very useless in this story, I so agree. It’s not just him saying, “Save the dream!” but he also says “Save the Rebellion!”, like am I supposed to care that he suddenly had a change of heart and thinks the Rebellion is a viable option, near his own death no less? Okay dude, nice knowing ya I guess.
I think Tarkin needed to be in this movie. If you wanted Krennic to be the only one in charge, then you have to explain why such a powerful person in the Empire is not in the following movies, especially in A New Hope. It was essential to show the change in command stripped from Krennic and into Tarkin’s hands. The Death Star is Tarkin’s favorite toy, so somewhere down the line, prior to A New Hope, there has to be that connective tissue of him taking command of it. Now, it did bother me some that he looked like a video game character, and it really disappointed me how they would have an extreme close up of BOTH Tarkin and another real actor’s face, like Krennic, as it did nothing but glaringly highlight the noticeable difference between CGI face vs real face. It would have been far more effective to have more distanced shots and/or put Tarkin under some shadows or in reflection.
The Death Star being used as it was in Rogue One doesn’t really take away from the destruction of Alderaan, imo. I think it heightens it because it shows how even more bold and defiant Leia is, as she must know by now that the Death Star packs a lethal punch; what she may had not known was that it would fully destroy her planet like that.
The Rise of Failures
Continuing with Part 3:
Once everyone escapes Jedha, Jyn and Cassian and K2SO go to some rainy planet in search of Jyn’s father, who is the primary engineer in charge of constructing the Death Star. I like this storyline between father and daughter, and wish it would have been much more fleshed out in the script. I mentioned all of this before–the idea that Galen intentionally designed a vulnerability in the Death Star is an interesting one, and I think that reveal and his demise would have been better saved for the climax in the last act.
What I did not like about this important scene was first a small thing: being called back to Luke crashing his X-wing on Dagobah, which is all I could think of when their ship landed in the rain. Stuff like this may be nitpicking, I agree, but I just hate the ripoffs like this and the Droid/odds dialogue that takes me out of the movie. Let things like the very nice looking Yavin 4 base, the very well cast Mon Mothma, and the reappearance of Bail Organa, provide all of the nostalgia we are looking for. Don’t shoehorn cameos and ripoffs into the film and take me completely out of the experience please.
What I didn’t like even more was one glaring plot hole and the inconsistency of Cassian’s character. First of all, why are the Rebels still interested in killing Galen Erso? The Death Star has been built and is operational. All of those engineers have already done their job. What good will it do to risk all of these lives in an attempt to kill any of them? Second, why does Cassian not pull the trigger? We watched on in boredom as the name of some trading post was importantly superimposed on the screen at the beginning of the movie, then saw Cassian kill some random innocent in an act that was supposed to make his character ruthless and morally ambiguous. Now he has orders to kill Galen Erso, has him in his sights, and just decides to walk away? What in the world…!!! Just terrible.
But what I really wanted to talk about during this part of the film was something I noticed that caused me to be unable to watch the movie in the same light again: the number of cuts in this movie. There are so many cuts in this film and in this scene in particular that it may actually set a record in all of filmmaking. I’m not even joking. Here is how the editing in this film goes:
Shot…2 seconds, cut…1 second, quick cut…2 seconds, cut…3 seconds cut…1 second, cut…1 second, cut again…2 seconds, cut, cut, etc.
I don’t know how long exactly Galen’s death scene was, but there were literally 15 cuts in a 30 second span where someone was dying and the film was supposed to be slowing down. After that, it took me sometime to recover because all I was paying attention to was the editing. Cut. Two seconds–cut. One second, cut. Shot, reverse shot. Whenever someone speaks the camera is always on the them, then a reaction shot. Then one second later, cut. And two seconds later, cut again.
In some cases this could be considered a stylistic choice, and indeed at certain points in the film where the pacing needs to be fast, it’s even preferred. But the entire movie is edited this way! Even the slow death scenes! Are you kidding me? I had to go back and watch Yoda’s death scene today and admire how both Luke and Yoda are in the frame and the number of cuts are so few and far between. At this point in Rogue One, I started paying closer attention to the camera work and the cinematography too. There was actually one scene earlier where the gang are being held in a jail cell on Jedha, and only at the very end of the scene is there a camera shot that shows a perspective from behind bars. Does anyone remember the scene between Tom Hagen and Frank Pantengeli in The Godfather Part II? When Tom Hagen goes to visit him at the prison, the entire scene is filmed with the barbed wire in between the camera and the actors. When you watch The Empire Strikes Back, watch the framing and panning in the Wampa cave. Think about Vader’s mask emerging out of the smoke during the Carbon freezing scene.
I could go on and on, but this movie has almost nothing like that. Where is the actual filmmaking? Over and over again we get something in the foreground, and then refocus onto some character in the background. We see some character in the background, and then the camera refocuses onto something in the foreground. Cut, cut, then another quick cut. Too many times the actors are too close to the camera or the camera is not even focused on anything in particular at all. Save for one sequence in the last act, I thought the composition in this film was extraordinarily poor.
Sorry for the length of these posts, but I’ll resume in Part 4.
Wow, you just made me realize how damn emotional it would be if Galen was found on Scarif by Jyn. Instead of random romantic hands scene between Jyn and Cassian, it would had fit SO MUCH better if Jyn was crying and hugging Galen as their final moments slip away into the explosion left by the Death Star.
Dammit, I KNEW something felt wrong when Krennic didn’t take Galen by force aboard his shuttle. THAT could had been the excuse to take Galen to Scarif for imprisonment/interrogation and forcing Galen to expose all of his message logs.
The Rise of Failures
I think the scene on Eadu (Blue rainy planet) was actually one of the best parts of the film. To me at least I thought it was pretty solid the way it was staged.
The point of Cassian not killing Galen was that Galen was actually saying “Kill me” to Krennic but Krennic believed he was lying to protect someone on his team of scientists.
Then when Cassian see’s this execution he has second thoughts about killing Galen because he is the only scientist left. And the only one with any information.
The irony is that Galen get’s killed by a y-wing bomb. But yeah I think it could have been interesting if Galen had made it right to the end.
Galen was targeted for assignation because of what would he build next…
Part 4:
After her father dies, Jyn returns back to Yavin 4 and lobbies the Council to attack Scarif, in an attempt to steal the Death Star plans. You’re absolutely right Tavor, Galen’s death should have been reserved for the film’s climax, and moreover, the research facility on Eadu and the Imperial base on Scarif were redundant and should have been combined. There was no need for two different settings when one base would have sufficed.
Anyway, because the bad scriptwriting needs melodrama, the Council rejects Jyn’s pleas even as Cassian and Mon Mothma and others conspire to help her or at least condone her actions. These people evidently hated when Saw went rogue, but when Jyn–someone with questionable loyalties and no track record of aiding the alliance-- does it, well shucks, let’s just smile and decide at the last minute to help her out.
The more I think about it, the more this movie is starting to piss me off because the scriptwriting is just so damn lazy. I can complain all I want about the terrible composition, the lack of any interesting cinematography, the PTSD editing, the pacing and rhythm problems, and the CGI and bad acting in some roles throughout the film, but first and foremost a film begins and ends with the quality of the script; and in Rogue One, the script is not good at all. I mean, we’re not Mary Sue-ing our way through shots of Starkiller simultaneously destroying relatively small planets clear on the other side of the galaxy, but this isn’t good screenwriting either.
What are some other ways it could have been better? How about shortening the dialogue all throughout the movie. The worst example was in the Galen Erso hologram message at Saw’s place on Jedha. The guy just rambles on, and on, and on…and on. He literally speed-reads through a message that is as long as these ridiculously long posts of mine. When the actors read their lines, there is no rhythm or timing to any of it. For that matter, there is no rhythm or timing to any of these scenes. Ah, **** it, let’s just move on to the cool last battle, undoubtedly the best part of the film.
So our heroes steal away to Scarif and **** starts to go down. There is actually one well shot or at least animated sequence where the camera doesn’t cut every two seconds. I don’t remember the whole sequence, but it takes place in space above Scarif, and eventually Rogue One or some other ship makes its way to the shield gate. It was kind of a sweeping ten seconds that I really enjoyed. The space fx look great too, especially the whole shield gate thing. Good things in the movie are starting to happen.
But meanwhile, what were the bad guys doing during this time? Well we get a pointless filler scene with Vader and Krennic, just so we can see Vader’s CGI animated castle or something. Listen, I LOVE LOVE LOVE the last scene with Vader in the movie, don’t get me wrong, I wouldn’t want that cut out of the movie for anything–but that other scene or two he’s in? The dialogue is off. He doesn’t have anything to do. He’s just pointless filler. Save the best for last!
And what about the bizarre scene when Krennic arrives on Scarif? The commanding officer arrives with orders to dig up every one of Galen Erso’s communications, but how does he order his officers to do that exactly? In case you missed it, I will tell you, because I noticed it during the film: Krennic doesn’t look any of the imperials in the eye. He doesn’t even break stride on his way over to his penthouse view of Space Bahamas. He literally walks into the room, fails to acknowledge anyone, gives orders to nobody in particular, and hastily makes for the big window so he can look out at the pretty blue sky.
Really?
Oh well, I’ve rambled on a little too long I guess. Hard to criticize a film for being too wordy when my posts are this long. I promise I will finish my review in Part 5: the Battle of Scarif!
I stopped reading long ago, but I even stopped skimming when you dropped a misogynistic Mary Sue. Great job.
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Yeah I got to agree with this and seeing as he does not fully understand the point of Assassinating Galen Erson or why they went to get him even though I don’t mind peoples opinions. But it’s not needed. Why do we need 5 or 6 trawling posts to understate why someone likes the end but does not really like the film as a whole.
Like this guy drools over the start of the film being boring as he felt no investment yet his review of the start of the film is not boring too?
I think it’s at this point alderaan you need to ask yourself some questions not only do you not fully understand the film which other people pretty much have quite a firm grasp of yet you are also complaining of dragging and boredom and your review is pretty much that.
You are entitled to your opinion but does it really have to drone on and on and on your opinion? And when do YOU get to the point!
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Wake me up when something new happens.
Sadly, i think it’s going to be an annual thing from now on.
Alderaan, before completing your over-length review ( well one long criticism really), maybe you should watch the movie again because so many of your criticisms are based on you either misinterpreting something, missing something or just getting facts wrong.
Take this complaint for example:
And what about the bizarre scene when Krennic arrives on Scarif? The commanding officer arrives with orders to dig up every one of Galen Erso’s communications, but how does he order his officers to do that exactly? In case you missed it, I will tell you, because I noticed it during the film: Krennic doesn’t look any of the imperials in the eye. He doesn’t even break stride on his way over to his penthouse view of Space Bahamas. He literally walks into the room, fails to acknowledge anyone, gives orders to nobody in particular, and hastily makes for the big window so he can look out at the pretty blue sky.
Really?
When Krennic enters, an officer addresses him.
Officer - "Director Krennic, what brings you to Scarif?“
Krennic - " Galen Urso. I want every dispatch, every transmission he has ever sent called up for inspection”
It’s very clear that he is addressing this officer. He doesn’t need to look at this guy for us to know who he is giving his orders to.
Then you call the Vader scene pointless filler? Well it isn’t. Krennic gets Vader involved. He has just had the Death Star taken away from him by Tarkin. He needs Vader. He needs him to use his influence with the Emperor to get his station back. He is a desperate man and will do anything to regain the Death Star. And when Vader refuses, his downfall is set in motion. If this scene didn’t happen then it would look like Krennic had just given up the second tarkin took over, which would have been bad writing 😉
I feel like some people managed to spend half the movie looking at their phones.
I am very curious what you make of it Ady?
I trust your opinion as a good one. I am interested in what you think about it? And I know it won’t be some slanderous bore.
But when you are ready… I really want to know what you think.
I am very curious what you make of it Ady?
I trust your opinion as a good one. I am interested in what you think about it? And I know it won’t be some slanderous bore.
But when you are ready… I really want to know what you think.
Shhh, let him work on Revisited, not writing a review. 😉
(He loved it.)
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