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Nope that’s one of the few things Alderaan got right.
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A very short prequel to Rogue One. 😉
https://youtu.be/Hh8sTR2b4zI
It’s an interesting 360 degree short from ILMxLAB. Navigation is in the upper left corner.
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Mithrandir said:
Rogue One did entertain me, and among many other things, it was able to transport me into the aesthetics of a universe I felt the same as the one I remember from when as a kid. That’s all I could ask from these movies, and that’s were TFA failed to me.
I agree with both of those points. Rogue One felt just like Star Wars77 to me. Even more so after the second viewing. While I really like the first half of The Force Awakens, it didn’t make me feel the same as I did back in 1977. Similar and familiar, but not like home.
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Alderaan said:
Remember those wonderful RLM videos about the prequels? Remember their filmmaking criticisms? Those apply to these poorly made sequels as well.
I also remember them making fun of themselves in saying “Well anything is a matter of opinion, unless it’s mine and then it’s right”.
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A very short prequel to Rogue One. 😉
https://youtu.be/Hh8sTR2b4zI
It’s an interesting 360 degree short from ILMxLAB. Navigation is in the upper left corner.
Watch this on a smartphone for best effect.
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Just saw it an hour ago. Great movie. Best Star Wars movie since the OOT! It entertained me for 2 hours. Each character in this movie had more personality in a single cell than the entire cast of the PT did in their whole bodies. It got me to care for the characters in a way that the PT never came anywhere near close to doing. It moved me emotionally at times and kept me on the edge of my seat many times. The only thing I didn’t like was that all of Rogue One dies at the end, so no ability of a sequel 😦 Absolutely no offense is intended by my next statement. The Ending is improved by the death of Carrie Fisher. It moves you in a way it wouldn’t/couldn’t beforehand. When she says “Hope” I almost cried. What they did with Tarkin and Leia in this movie, opens up a way to have Leia in episode IX. Before I saw the movie, I thought they would have to kill Leia off screen, but with use of GGI she could be in episode IX. In any case, this gets 4 stars out of 5 for me.
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I think if they all lived, it would defeat the purpose of the tone Rogue One is after. That is, for A New Hope to shine “HOPE”, the events preceding it had to be tragic.
I saw Rogue One the day she passed away as well, and it did hit me emotionally too, given the context of that day.
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I think it is quite different to see that end scene for the first time after Fisher’s death as compared to seeing it for the first time before she died.
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Killing everyone off also makes for a smoother transition to Ep. 4. This way they don’t have to explain why none of those characters are there.
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Well, I waited for my niece to come and see it with me but in the end I had to go on my own.
Generally I liked it.
Tarkin should have been a hologram and then he would have looked amazing in fact why did they expand that character and not Vader where JEJ is still around and the body can sort of be played by anyone in a mask (but not quite as we found out in ROTS and to a lesser extent here also)?
The new characters were good.
A few too many easter eggs for my taste.
Walrus man and Mr Squishyface get around a bit don’t they? Did we really need the rebel captain to call for escape pods as Vader is going all Jason Vorhees (that was brilliant… make a Vader, slasher movie the kids will go crazy)?
I know Frink is going to ‘call me out’ or whatever it’s fashionable for young people to say these days but some of this film looks really like our ROTJ mockups. Just like TFA.
There really is no excuse for not putting more John Williams themes in this. Some of the new music just sounds like knock off Star Wars music (like when a fan film is trying to avoid a cease and desist) that didn’t work as didn’t the captions telling me where the characters would later tell me I was going.
Like the TFA the strength of this film is largely with the new characters. Some of the dialogue is a bit too on the nose and sometimes really unnatural sounding and could do with a trim. I say it’s equal with TFA in negatives and positives and I look forward to seeing what the fan edit community do with it.
Hurray for Castle Vader and his funny butler guy at last. Don’t like sand but somehow really digging lava irregardless of the past history with the stuff. I really want to see more of that relationship. Does he make him dress up as Palpatine and bow to him for pervy reasons?
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So while everyone’s been speculating about the appearance of Bail Organa, most have neglected this shot:
The hair looks too dark but he has the cheekbones and carries himself like Tarkin. Dunno…
So who called it…? =P
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And Guy Henry there definitely isn’t wearing the special mo-cap headpiece used to create CGI Cushing Tarkin… which was filmed as a separate element against blue screen. Looks like a shot of recast Tarkin in the wild.
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I also remember them making fun of themselves in saying “Well anything is a matter of opinion, unless it’s mine and then it’s right”.
True, which is why Plinkett does his whole black comedy routine, so as not to give the impression that he takes his review so seriously. I’m easier to make fun of though, and I do it all the time!
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This is a very bleak war film set in the Star Wars universe we know and love. That alone is going to cause problems for some people.
I would have liked it to be more bleak at times. Or at least consistent. In the sequence on Jedha, there is a small child crying in the street and Jyn hurries to rescue her. Then a moment later there is a guy doing martial arts comedy and a droid cracking jokes. These things do not go together.
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Well, I waited for my niece to come and see it with me but in the end I had to go on my own.
Generally I liked it.
Tarkin should have been a hologram and then he would have looked amazing in fact why did they expand that character and not Vader where JEJ is still around and the body can sort of be played by anyone in a mask (but not quite as we found out in ROTS and to a lesser extent here also)?
Hologram Tarkin would a been limiting. I suppose they could have shown more Vader.
The new characters were good.
The new characters were great.
A few too many easter eggs for my taste.
Didn’t seem that way to me.
Walrus man and Mr Squishyface get around a bit don’t they? Did we really need the rebel captain to call for escape pods
so what?
as Vader is going all Jason Vorhees (that was brilliant… make a Vader, slasher movie the kids will go crazy)?
Vader is a villain and his main weapon is a light saber. Just what do expect him to with that saber?
I know Frink is going to ‘call me out’ or whatever it’s fashionable for young people to say these days but some of this film looks really like our ROTJ mockups. Just like TFA.
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There really is no excuse for not putting more John Williams themes in this. Some of the new music just sounds like knock off Star Wars music (like when a fan film is trying to avoid a cease and desist) that didn’t work
worked ok for me.
as didn’t the captions telling me where the characters would later tell me I was going.
huh?
Like the TFA the strength of this film is largely with the new characters. Some of the dialogue is a bit too on the nose and sometimes really unnatural sounding and could do with a trim.
a bit too on the nose? what does that mean?
I say it’s equal with TFA in negatives and positives and I look forward to seeing what the fan edit community do with it.
I think it is better than TFA.
Hurray for Castle Vader and his funny butler guy at last. Don’t like sand but somehow really digging lava irregardless of the past history with the stuff. I really want to see more of that relationship. Does he make him dress up as Palpatine and bow to him for pervy reasons?
*sigh*
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This is a very bleak war film set in the Star Wars universe we know and love. That alone is going to cause problems for some people.
I would have liked it to be more bleak at times. Or at least consistent. In the sequence on Jedha, there is a small child crying in the street and Jyn hurries to rescue her. Then a moment later there is a guy doing martial arts comedy and a droid cracking jokes. These things do not go together.
While I agree with some of your assertions, this one I don’t quite see eye to eye on. To me, it just seemed like harmless wisecrack quips. It’s meant to loosen the tension, and I do believe that’s one of the best ways to do it. The bad way of doing so would be having a Gungan step in shit [cue laugh track]. Instead, some contrast is needed, even if the tone is serious. It’s not like that child was killed anyway (well obviously, way later we can assume that happened, sadly), so at that point in the film, the heroes are having their moment of triumph against the tyranny of those Storm Troopers. In other words, I never got the sense that our main cast of characters is ignorant to the gravity of the situation. So what, a child was crying, got saved, and was reunited with her mother(?); our minds were put into ease and open for some comedy finally after all that crazy action/drama.
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Killing everyone off also makes for a smoother transition to Ep. 4. This way they don’t have to explain why none of those characters are there.
It also give Mon Mothma’s discomfort saying “many Bothans died to bring us this information” in ROTJ a deeper edge and meaning. She’s been through all of this before.
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Damn, yet another interesting layer missed by me! I personally never felt her composure was laughable as some viewers sometimes point out, as I already got the sense that she felt weighed down by relying that kind of information. But regardless, Rogue One does indeed happen to shade in Mon Mothma’s character even further when we acknowledge such sacrifices are difficult to be burdened by, time and time again.
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Final grade of this movie? I think it’s as poorly made as the prequels honestly.
Sounds reasonable.
We had a decade or more of people who criticized everything Star Wars that came out. It was ok because the majority of people believed the prequels were inferior to the originals. Now that there is new content that isn’t widely panned, we are still seeing the same stones being thrown. It’s a weird phenomenon.
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I feel like some people haven’t actually seen the prequels in a very long time. Rightfully so, of course, but they seem to have forgotten how truly awful they are. Either that or they be trollin’.
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If there had to be a noticeable difference between the Prequels and Rogue One, it’s that I was actually interested in knowing more about the characters in Rogue One than in the Prequels. I know I’ve expressed that I didn’t feel that connected to the characters and deem this element of the film to be the weakest, but comparatively, I still got the sense that these characters were truly a part of that lived-in universe with some (though not observable) history to go along. Prequel characters… those truly give the vibe of “yeah, we’re just here and not really a part of the Star Wars universe” and not much else. I should also say that those deaths in Rogue One were far more effective than some Order 66 montage, so I’ll give them that.
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So I watched it again, and still enjoy it, but I don’t think it’s worthy of a nine out of ten anymore. I noticed some more flaws this time, and I think that Jyn Erso, and Felicity Jones’ performance were rather flat. She wasn’t a terrible character, or played terribly, but I think the movie might have worked better if more focus was put on the other characters, like Bodhi or Cassian. I still think the soundtrack is not as good as any of the others, and that it was paced kind of poorly. But I still loved the action, the excitement, most of the characters, I enjoyed the movie in general. I am torn on the C-3PO and R2-D2 cameo, because I enjoy seeing them, though I don’t understand why they aren’t aboard the Tantive IV. I still think that Leia should have been facing backwards the whole time, and that Tarkin should have the screentime of Vader (and vice versa), but it’s still fun seeing all these characters from the OT. At this point, I’d rate it seven out of ten.
Not enough people read the EU.
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I’m pretty sure there was enough time for R2D2 and C-3PO to be chaperoned aboard the Tantive IV between that scene and by the time the Rebel fleet makes it to Scarif.
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In Rogue One, the characters were disinteresting at worst. In the PT, the characters were disinteresting at best.
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This video is absolutely hilarious:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odj6NHsWe00
Really feels like people’s reaction to this movie in a microcosm. Of course some of this video is hyperbole, so don’t take it too seriously, but I did find quite a bit of truth in what was going on.