For all things related to fan-editing Rogue One: A Star Wars Story. Feel free to post ideas and discuss what could be done to improve the film.
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add teh crawls it wass bullshit there was none
Just got back from the cinema - really loved it!
There isn’t much I’d change really, other than introduce a crawl, and replace a number of the opening scenes with just exposition from the crawl.
Personally I’d like to have a version where you would view it prior to the OT, so numerous ‘reveals’ that relied on seeing the trilogy first (and obvious cameos) could be toned down or changed (or removed).
Vader is a bit over the top I felt - but I really enjoyed his part.
CG Tarkin was great - CG Carrie Fisher maybe less so.
Well, that didn’t take long. 😉
RO and ANH as one movie anyone?
Where were you in '77?
A mega movie would be an epic watch, although there would need to be a large amount of visual/sound/pace adjustments to get them to match up more.
I like the fact that the movie has no crawl, so I’d keep that. But I’d replace the movie logo with a version that has filled letters and probably even the metallic design seen on the official poster. And I would probably include the “A Star Wars Story” as well.
I really love the movie, so the only other thing I’d do is to cut the R2 and 3PO shot as that one felt forced unlike the other cameos/easter-eggs.
And if I may suggest a bigger change, it would be that the Tantive IV is not inside the flagship but instead the plans are sent to the Tantive IV while it’s on course to Tatooine where Leia was sent to find Obi-Wan. But that would obviously require more editing and I don’t even know if it’s worth it.
This is actually the first Star Wars movie in a very long time that I don’t think really needs things cut out to enjoy it. There was no cringey dialogue, no bad camera angles, and very little poor CGI. Maybe I’d cut out Leia at the end, or just have her back turned to the camera and cut away before she turns around, but that’s it. Having an opening crawl would be a cool experiment, but wouldn’t improve the movie.
Not enough people read the EU.
What I missed:
Maybe edit:
Other than that, I believe the movie was fine.
Hopefully there’ll be a fair few deleted / alternative scenes on dvd / bluray - there seems to be a fair few scenes that were in the trailers and tv spots that didn’t make it to the final cut of the film.
Some could be quite interesting to add back in etc…
DigitalFreakNYC posted a good link on some of the missing/alt scenes here:-
and more here:-
http://www.slashfilm.com/rogue-one-missing-trailer-footage/
https://vimeo.com/196155136 (Vash Visuals)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJZjqmmL-24 (IGN)
http://collider.com/rogue-one-deleted-scenes-trailers/#teaser-trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-c6oD8xXMl8 (Flicks In The City)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iv3kVMiMMZ4 (New Rockstars)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xONENbOaUZg (Hello Greedo)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMdGx1U_Pqo (Mr Sunday Movies)
http://www.thewrap.com/ben-mendelsohn-rogue-one-different/
http://www.starwarsunderworld.com/2017/01/new-images-from-rogue-one-deleted.html?m=1
http://io9.gizmodo.com/why-the-rogue-one-trailers-most-iconic-shot-never-appea-1790910745
https://uk.movies.yahoo.com/rogue-ones-editors-reveal-scenes-added-in-the-star-wars-standalone-reshoots-exclusive-110124381.html
https://uk.movies.yahoo.com/original-rogue-one-screenplay-had-much-happier-much-different-ending-235717781.html
http://www.provideocoalition.com/art-of-the-cut-rogue-one/
https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWarsLeaks/comments/5ig950/shotslines_in_the_rogue_one_teaser_that_arent_in/
https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWarsLeaks/comments/5ilwpr/rogue_one_removed_edited_changed_scenes_from_all/
http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Rogue-Zero-What-was-changed-reshot-etc-in-Rogue-One/id/52626/page/1
and similar stuff is being discussed on (around) pages 60/61 of the Rogue One Spoilers thread on here.
They’ve also got a useful linked list of near on every trailer, tv spot, advert and featurette etc if it helps anyone - https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWarsLeaks/comments/4wnt6u/rogue_one_up_to_date_list_of_all_trailers_tv/
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For me the film was great - really enjoyed it - and don’t think it needs much other can see some may want tidy up the CGI Tarkin etc, (how good is it to say that about a Star Wars film? 😃) though it’ll be interesting to see what some of the talented fan editors out there come up with…
Personally I’d love to see the re-inclusion of more lines of dialogue from Saw - the ‘what will you do when they catch you?.. what will you do if they break you?.. if you continue to fight…?.. what will you become…?’, and the ‘the world is coming undone… Imperial flags reign across the galaxy…’ line.
Along with Jyn’s ‘every day we grow weaker… while they grow stronger’, as well as ‘there isn’t much time’ dialogue.
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Maybe a Rogue One - 1989 Edition?
So, any ideas for an opening crawl that would allow to condense the first hour of the movie into a couple of minutes?
Very tempted to make an edit where this replaces Revenge of the Sith as the new Episode III. Following standalone films which fit the mold can be used to make Episode I and II but this definitely feels more like a saga movie when you think about it.
My edit would have:
. A new title
. An added crawl
. Removal of the planet titles
. Minor editing on the opening act since it was quite messy
. Also any small nitpicks I find when watching back again
I hope I don’t CHOKE in my aspirations 😉
Current Edits:
Obi-Wan Kenobi - TBC
The Mandalorian (Season 1) - V1 Complete
The Mandalorian II (Season 2) - TBC
The Mandalorian Returns (TBOBF) - TBC
Very tempted to make an edit where this replaces Revenge of the Sith as the new Episode III. Following standalone films which fit the mold can be used to make Episode I and II but this definitely feels more like a saga movie when you think about it.
My edit would have:
. A new title
. An added crawl
. Removal of the planet titles
. Minor editing on the opening act since it was quite messy
. Also any small nitpicks I find when watching back againI hope I don’t CHOKE in my aspirations 😉
I don’t think think you will because I quite agree with a lot your points 😉. I still like it being Rogue One, but a new crawl and removal of the title card would be amazing.
The title card looked AWFUL.
I don’t know about you guys but when it comes to CG Leia, I think there’s an easy fix. For me at least, it looked REALLLYYYY good the first few seconds, but then they began to linger on the same shot, longer and longer, AND they were zooming up right on the CG face. I think with some simple editing you could somehow trim up that.
And I’d also love to add some more John Williams music to the film.
No one mentioning removing the mind reading monster with questionably CGI tentacles? That’d be one of my only cuts, unless someone can convince me to replace the entire prologue and first few scenes with a crawl.
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Really liked it, especially the Droid and the 70s mustaches on the rebel pilots sad ending Vader kicking as lots of good stuff. Blind guy also kicks ass. That being said…
Didn’t like forests gas mask sure looked like it was hooked to his lungs already. Mind read monster. 1970s vaccume cleaner backpack on blind man’s sidekick. The cgi mon calmarians bothered me worse than tarkin, wiche I thought they pulled off. Also too much non anh tech, could be cut down mostly just the weird looking planetary ties. And Vader looked kinda fake, can’t explain why probably the eyes. Add crawl.
And like burdokva said don’t have the tantive 4 inside the cruise Leia and Cap’n antellies were already headed to tattooing right?
My fan edit ideas
http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Return-of-the-Sith-Revenge-of-the-Jedi-by-marduk666/id/17356
CG Tarkin was great - CG Carrie Fisher maybe less so.
Didn’t like CG Tarkin, but it was necessary. I can live with it. CG Leia was just dumb.
RO and ANH as one movie anyone?
I feel like they’re too different.
Additionally, I’m a fan of not having a crawl. Sets it apart.
Reading R + L ≠ J theories
For me I think not having a crawl was good. It established that this was not and “episode” movie, but something different, yet still Star Wars. The beginning did need some work though. Something felt missing from the beginning. Instead I think the title card could be improved and I would definitely change the music that goes along with it. Or maybe even add it to the beginning after “A long time ago…” and then jump right into the movie.
I would also change the constant jumping from planet to planet in the beginning, removing the planet titles with it. The scene with Cassian right after the title card at the city between two asteroids I think can be removed, it doesn’t really add anything to his character and it makes him seem like a really bad guy. I understand that they are trying to get across the fact that in a war there is a lot of grey area and sometimes you have to do bad things for the greater good, but I feel that shooting a man in the back is just taking things a bit too far. It makes it hard for the audience to believe that he is a good guy and makes the scene where he decides not to shoot Galen unbelievable.
I think merging a lot of scenes in the movie especially in the beginning would make the movie flow better. Everything leading up to Yavin seemed kind of disorienting and messy to me.
I would definitely cut the mind reading monster from the movie, and much of Saw as well. I would leave him to be a bit more mysterious. I also didn’t like the voice that Forest Witicker used, it seemed over the top to me, so cutting a lot of his lines would help. Especially the “Save the Rebellion, save the dream” line. If maybe there was a way to restore his blue eyes, that would be kinda neat to see.
As awesome as it was to see Mustafar and Vader in the bacta tank, I thought the conversation between Krenic and Vader was unnecessary, and I’m not sure if I like the force choke pun. Also possibly pitch shifting Vader’s voice to sound more like ANH Vader would be nice if left in. I think the only time I personally would show Vader is the final scene.
The flashback on Coruscant, the R2 and 3p0, and the Ponda Boba and Evazan cameos were not needed as well. As much as I liked Baze and Chirrut characters I think their intro could be toned down a bit. Finally I would change Cassians decision to not shoot Galen and instead just have him get distracted by seeing Jyn on the platform.
After watching it a few more times I may have more cuts.
Just my 2 cents
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For me I think not having a crawl was good. It established that this was not and “episode” movie, but something different, yet still Star Wars. The beginning did need some work though. Something felt missing from the beginning. Instead I think the title card could be improved and I would definitely change the music that goes along with it. Or maybe even add it to the beginning after “A long time ago…” and then jump right into the movie.
I would also change the constant jumping from planet to planet in the beginning, removing the planet titles with it. The scene with Cassian right after the title card at the city between two asteroids I think can be removed, it doesn’t really add anything to his character and it makes him seem like a really bad guy. I understand that they are trying to get across the fact that in a war there is a lot of grey area and sometimes you have to do bad things for the greater good, but I feel that shooting a man in the back is just taking things a bit too far. It makes it hard for the audience to believe that he is a good guy and makes the scene where he decides not to shoot Galen unbelievable.
I think merging a lot of scenes in the movie especially in the beginning would make the movie flow better. Everything leading up to Yavin seemed kind of disorienting and messy to me.
I would definitely cut the mind reading monster from the movie, and much of Saw as well. I would leave him to be a bit more mysterious. I also didn’t like the voice that Forest Witicker used, it seemed over the top to me, so cutting a lot of his lines would help. Especially the “Save the Rebellion, save the dream” line. If maybe there was a way to restore his blue eyes, that would be kinda neat to see.
As awesome as it was to see Mustafar and Vader in the bacta tank, I thought the conversation between Krenic and Vader was unnecessary, and I’m not sure if I like the force choke pun. Also possibly pitch shifting Vader’s voice to sound more like ANH Vader would be nice if left in. I think the only time I personally would show Vader is the final scene.
The flashback on Coruscant, the R2 and 3p0, and the Ponda Boba and Evazan cameos were not needed as well. As much as I liked Baze and Chirrut characters I think their intro could be toned down a bit. Finally I would change Cassians decision to not shoot Galen and instead just have him get distracted by seeing Jyn on the platform.
After watching it a few more times I may have more cuts.
Just my 2 cents
Very intersting points. I also noticed that Vaders voice was a little off in his scene with Krennic. It sounded kind of weak. But Vader being a badass (choking someone) and a smartass (making a pun while doing it) at the same time, was awesome for myself.
I think merging a lot of scenes in the movie especially in the beginning would make the movie flow better. Everything leading up to Yavin seemed kind of disorienting and messy to me.
If maybe there was a way to restore his blue eyes, that would be kinda neat to see.
I know what you mean.
maybe something like this;
I loved the movie, just loved it. One thing I might change is the dialogue between the director and Vader on Mustafar. I would simply cut vader’s line about chocking on one’s ambitions, (he’s a sith for Chrissakes! Ambition is all he knows.)
-I would put some low audio of Padme’s dying (from the dreams in III) when Vader is coming out of the bacta tank. I would then have director Krenick saying “Am I still in command? etc.” while in a low volume I’d have audio of the Mustafar duel "this is the end for you my master…I hate you… or just Anakin’s agony) suddenly Vader is just choking him because…rage!
I got chills at seeing Vader’s castle and I thought “wow the Emperor really is an asshole.”
“Hey Vader…so…here is a Lava front property in the one place where you lost everything.”
If only we could just have summary scenes of the clone wars, this could be the only prequel you would ever need.
The cgi mon calmarians bothered me worse than tarkin, wiche I thought they pulled off.
The thing is, those aren’t CGI but animatronic masks 😉
The one right at the end is CGI for some bizarre reason.
Honestly this should be rectified for the Blu-Ray… I can’t remember that last line from Raddus but for me that is a definite Chop…Probably swap for the Shot of Vader looking at the screen or something.
I would also erase the probe droid in Jedha City - Not suitable for this location or scenario. That is the worst nod but because there was possibly a scene where they trek with some Locals to the city they could have been tracked by the probe droid from the wasteland and then K2-SO decided to leave the ship so the missing plot would then give the probe droid the significance and context. This could also be where the conversation was had between Cassian and Jyn where they agree and say “Good” to one another aboard the u-wing.
So if we get to see a missing plot point then that trace of the probe droid now makes sense.
I loved the movie, just loved it. One thing I might change is the dialogue between the director and Vader on Mustafar. I would simply cut vader’s line about chocking on one’s ambitions, (he’s a sith for Chrissakes! Ambition is all he knows.)
I hated that line because Darth Vader does not use one-liners. But I don’t understand your point about him being a Sith.
And I hate the idea of putting anything more from ROTS in.