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WARNING! This thread contains spoilers for all the Star Wars films!

I was wondering how everyone here feels about Rey and Kylo Ren’s relationship in the sequel trilogy as of right now. After The Force Awakens was released, there was a large group of shippers who shipped the two characters together, dubbing the term, “Reylo.” When I first saw the movie, I didn’t see anything between the two characters. I just saw this theory as a pipe dream for shippers and fangirls at first.

It wasn’t until a year later, before The Last Jedi was released, that I looked more into the theory to understand why it was quite popular. I was surprised by the evidence that the theorists have found, and they actually convinced me that this is a plot point that could potentially happen in Episode VIII. However, I always go into a new Star Wars movie with no expectations. I like to be surprised by the next installment in the saga, and not set up unrealistic expectations, leading to disappointment. When I viewed The Last Jedi the first time, I was incredibly surprised to see that a romantic relationship was set up between the two characters as I watched them touch each others hands in the hut. By the time it seemed as if Ben had decided to rule the galaxy with Rey, I had thought that the film was misleading the audience. That wasn’t until the last force bond between the two, I could tell that everything that had happened between the two was just the beginning of their relationship, based upon the looks on their faces, with Ben once again pleading for Rey to join him, and Rey very disappointed in his decision, hoping that maybe he will see how destructive his actions were.

It has surprised me that even after The Last Jedi came out, there were many fans who didn’t even see, or at least mention, the romance set up between the two characters. Whether they never saw it or they don’t want to bring it up due to having some distaste to it. The Last Jedi actually won me over to liking the story idea of the two in a romantic relationship. Just like many Star Wars fans, I love the original trilogy, and I grew up with the first six films. Despite not being a fan of the prequels later on, I did warm up to them more, and have also made my own fan edits of the prequels, as many here have also done as well. I am a big fan of the sequel trilogy, and I’m excited to see where the Rey and Ben are going to go in Episode IX.

I am curious though. I would like to know how everyone else here feels about the relationship between Rey and Ben Solo.

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at this point I have no idea where the sequel trilogy is going and will reserve judgement until it is complete .I think their bond may be something other than romantic though , just touching hands could be a sign of empathy or familial connection . I wish that naming convention would die though “Reylo” “Jaylo” “Jaylaw” etc . It reeks of Hollywood gossip columns which, oddly enough ,modern Star Wars seems to be descending into .I have enjoyed the sequel trilogy myself however, and welcome to the forums . I imagine you will understand what I mean in the near future.

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screams in the void said:

at this point I have no idea where the sequel trilogy is going and will reserve judgement until it is complete .I think their bond may be something other than romantic though , just touching hands could be a sign of empathy or familial connection . I wish that naming convention would die though “Reylo” “Jaylo” “Jaylaw” etc . It reeks of Hollywood gossip columns which, oddly enough ,modern Star Wars seems to be descending into .I have enjoyed the sequel trilogy myself however, and welcome to the forums . I imagine you will understand what I mean in the near future.

I don’t believe modern Star Wars films are descending into these types of gossip. I believe that the ones who are responsible for creating terms such as “Reylo” are fans and shippers (not to sound critical towards these fans).

You are correct about our views once the trilogy is complete, we will be able to see the full story, and I do understand what you mean. However, I do not believe that Rey and Ben are related. I think that anyone hoping that Rey is related to a familiar character in Star Wars such as Luke, Han, Leia, Obi-Wan, Qui-Gon or Palpatine will unfortunately be dissapointed. I don’t mean to go off topic for a bit, but Rey’s parentage arc is finished. Her parents were nobody, and Daisy Ridley even confirmed that she was told this when she was first cast as Rey. I like that her parents are two anonymous people, as I feel it gives Rey’s story more of an emotional impact to her involvement with the characters we all know. This makes it very impactful when Ben tells her that he doesn’t consider her as nothing. I think that the story and character relations that were carried from VII to VIII were done incredibly well, especially with Rey’s view on Kylo Ren, going from hating him due to killing Han, to feeling sorry for him because of his troubling childhood and past with his family. This doesn’t necessarily make Luke, Han and Leia bad people, but it shows that they have also struggled going from galactic heroes to parents/guardians. Sorry if I may have went off topic in a couple spots here.

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"I don’t believe modern Star Wars films are descending into these types of gossip. I believe that the ones who are responsible for creating terms such as “Reylo” are fans and shippers (not to sound critical towards these fans). “…SOME of these fans are the ones I was talking about and not the films themselves . Also , Rey may have been told one thing during the production of TLJ but it would not be the first time a plot point was hidden from the cast , they told everyone except Mark Hamill that the famous line was " Obi-Wan killed your father !” . I do not believe they will turn out to be siblings , nor do I believe they are going to be romantically involved , but I could be wrong . To state that anything is Empiracal fact is just speculation . You yourself said that things you thought were one way , turned out to be another .That happened a lot in the Original trilogy as well …back in 1977 , I was SURE Luke and Leia would end up together and the comics even ran with that idea , sometimes even after Empire was out .Anything can happen going forward .lastly , and just a pet peeve that my slightly ocd self gloamed in on is the term " shippers " another one I wish would die . I have been on the planet 47 years and have only heard it used in the past few years . That , and “hot take” which is something that I reserve for after a high fiber meal .Good points you bring up though, and as the Dude says , it’s just like , our collective opinions man ".

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This is a pretty good video on just that topic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-qi4OhCii4

You know, back in the pre-TLJ days I thought Reylo was idiotic but TLJ goes to great lengths to set it up. Finn, who I believed would end up with Rey by the end, is now with Rose and Poe’s got BB8.

While it might be a cliché, it is an interesting and a new place of the franchise to go. If they do it right, it could help Ep 9. But doing it right would be very hard to pull off, and they might see the entire saga fall apart if they fail. Something to keep in the back of our minds, I guess.

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screams in the void said:

"I don’t believe modern Star Wars films are descending into these types of gossip. I believe that the ones who are responsible for creating terms such as “Reylo” are fans and shippers (not to sound critical towards these fans). “…SOME of these fans are the ones I was talking about and not the films themselves . Also , Rey may have been told one thing during the production of TLJ but it would not be the first time a plot point was hidden from the cast , they told everyone except Mark Hamill that the famous line was " Obi-Wan killed your father !” . I do not believe they will turn out to be siblings , nor do I believe they are going to be romantically involved , but I could be wrong . To state that anything is Empiracal fact is just speculation . You yourself said that things you thought were one way , turned out to be another .That happened a lot in the Original trilogy as well …back in 1977 , I was SURE Luke and Leia would end up together and the comics even ran with that idea , sometimes even after Empire was out .Anything can happen going forward .lastly , and just a pet peeve that my slightly ocd self gloamed in on is the term " shippers " another one I wish would die . I have been on the planet 47 years and have only heard it used in the past few years . That , and “hot take” which is something that I reserve for after a high fiber meal .Good points you bring up though, and as the Dude says , it’s just like , our collective opinions man ".

You are right, all film is subjective. I feel that the reason why Luke and Leia ended up as siblings and did not become a couple was due to George Lucas’ decisions back then. There is a great book called, “How Star Wars Conquered the Universe,” which describes the behind the scenes involvement that was occurring throughout the franchise’s history. At the time, George was still not to sure whether he wanted them to be a couple, or as siblings. These thoughts must have occurred in George’s head when making The Empire Strikes Back. They had hinted at Leia being Luke’s sister by having Yoda referring to another, and her sensing Luke on Cloud City, despite Leia giving Luke a couple-like kiss in front of Han on Hoth.

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^ yup , George Lucas contradicted himself a lot back then , but he also had the final word on plot points , which is a big reason Gary Kurtz walked away . Now , the story is a relay race in the hands of multiple directors and the Lucasfilm story group . another great book to read for info on the films are the making of books by Rinzler , The Making Of The Empire Strikes backs has parts of the early script by Leigh Brackett where Luke’s father ( not Vader ) comes to Dagobah and has Luke take the Jedi oath with Yoda and Ben watching .

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OutboundFlight said:

This is a pretty good video on just that topic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-qi4OhCii4

You know, back in the pre-TLJ days I thought Reylo was idiotic but TLJ goes to great lengths to set it up. Finn, who I believed would end up with Rey by the end, is now with Rose and Poe’s got BB8.

While it might be a cliché, it is an interesting and a new place of the franchise to go. If they do it right, it could help Ep 9. But doing it right would be very hard to pull off, and they might see the entire saga fall apart if they fail. Something to keep in the back of our minds, I guess.

This is a great video that explains why, but I really don’t like the title of the video. I thought the best videos the showcase this were the three-part theory video series by the now defunct YouTuber, Vincent Vendetta.

I never saw Rey and Finn as a possible couple in The Force Awakens. I just saw them as friends. I didn’t hate that he ended up with Rose, though. I have faith that J.J. Abrams will wrap things nicely. I actually think that if the two survive in the end, with Ben being redeemed, it could help set up a possible fourth trilogy focused on their kids if Disney and Lucasfilm ever think about making another trilogy.

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screams in the void said:

^ yup , George Lucas contradicted himself a lot back then , but he also had the final word on plot points , which is a big reason Gary Kurtz walked away . Now , the story is a relay race in the hands of multiple directors and the Lucasfilm story group . another great book to read for info on the films are the making of books by Rinzler , The Making Of The Empire Strikes backs has parts of the early script by Leigh Brackett where Luke’s father ( not Vader ) comes to Dagobah and has Luke take the Jedi oath with Yoda and Ben watching .

Rest in peace, both Gary Kurtz and Leigh Brackett.

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nl0428 said:

OutboundFlight said:

This is a pretty good video on just that topic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-qi4OhCii4

You know, back in the pre-TLJ days I thought Reylo was idiotic but TLJ goes to great lengths to set it up. Finn, who I believed would end up with Rey by the end, is now with Rose and Poe’s got BB8.

While it might be a cliché, it is an interesting and a new place of the franchise to go. If they do it right, it could help Ep 9. But doing it right would be very hard to pull off, and they might see the entire saga fall apart if they fail. Something to keep in the back of our minds, I guess.

This is a great video that explains why, but I really don’t like the title of the video. I thought the best videos the showcase this were the three-part theory video series by the now defunct YouTuber, Vincent Vendetta.

I never saw Rey and Finn as a possible couple in The Force Awakens. I just saw them as friends. I didn’t hate that he ended up with Rose, though. I have faith that J.J. Abrams will wrap things nicely. I actually think that if the two survive in the end, with Ben being redeemed, it could help set up a possible fourth trilogy focused on their kids if Disney and Lucasfilm ever think about making another trilogy.

that’s the thing though , Disney has stated that this will be the final episodic Star wars installment , There is going to be a new trilogy by Rian Johnson ,which has stalled , that has nothing to do with the Skywalker saga . I think they have to wrap up plot points with episode 9 . I may be wrong though , I suppose they could change their minds .

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nl0428 said:

OutboundFlight said:

This is a pretty good video on just that topic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-qi4OhCii4

You know, back in the pre-TLJ days I thought Reylo was idiotic but TLJ goes to great lengths to set it up. Finn, who I believed would end up with Rey by the end, is now with Rose and Poe’s got BB8.

While it might be a cliché, it is an interesting and a new place of the franchise to go. If they do it right, it could help Ep 9. But doing it right would be very hard to pull off, and they might see the entire saga fall apart if they fail. Something to keep in the back of our minds, I guess.

This is a great video that explains why, but I really don’t like the title of the video. I thought the best videos the showcase this were the three-part theory video series by the now defunct YouTuber, Vincent Vendetta.

I never saw Rey and Finn as a possible couple in The Force Awakens. I just saw them as friends. I didn’t hate that he ended up with Rose, though. I have faith that J.J. Abrams will wrap things nicely. I actually think that if the two survive in the end, with Ben being redeemed, it could help set up a possible fourth trilogy focused on their kids if Disney and Lucasfilm ever think about making another trilogy.

^ at about 20 seconds into that video , I felt like shipping my pants

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screams in the void said:

nl0428 said:

OutboundFlight said:

This is a pretty good video on just that topic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-qi4OhCii4

You know, back in the pre-TLJ days I thought Reylo was idiotic but TLJ goes to great lengths to set it up. Finn, who I believed would end up with Rey by the end, is now with Rose and Poe’s got BB8.

While it might be a cliché, it is an interesting and a new place of the franchise to go. If they do it right, it could help Ep 9. But doing it right would be very hard to pull off, and they might see the entire saga fall apart if they fail. Something to keep in the back of our minds, I guess.

This is a great video that explains why, but I really don’t like the title of the video. I thought the best videos the showcase this were the three-part theory video series by the now defunct YouTuber, Vincent Vendetta.

I never saw Rey and Finn as a possible couple in The Force Awakens. I just saw them as friends. I didn’t hate that he ended up with Rose, though. I have faith that J.J. Abrams will wrap things nicely. I actually think that if the two survive in the end, with Ben being redeemed, it could help set up a possible fourth trilogy focused on their kids if Disney and Lucasfilm ever think about making another trilogy.

^ at about 20 seconds into that video , I felt like shipping my pants

Unfortunately, I feel that the “Reylo” fans, such as fangirls who draw fan art of the two characters seen in the video are making this story direction look like garbage. That is one of the reasons why I think some of the most popular Star Wars fans out there, who are not toxic, do not mention it, because they see it as a fangirl shipping dream of theirs. I’m sorry if I sounded hateful, I didn’t mean to come off as that. “Shipping my pants” is hilarious!

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screams in the void said:

nl0428 said:

OutboundFlight said:

This is a pretty good video on just that topic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-qi4OhCii4

You know, back in the pre-TLJ days I thought Reylo was idiotic but TLJ goes to great lengths to set it up. Finn, who I believed would end up with Rey by the end, is now with Rose and Poe’s got BB8.

While it might be a cliché, it is an interesting and a new place of the franchise to go. If they do it right, it could help Ep 9. But doing it right would be very hard to pull off, and they might see the entire saga fall apart if they fail. Something to keep in the back of our minds, I guess.

This is a great video that explains why, but I really don’t like the title of the video. I thought the best videos the showcase this were the three-part theory video series by the now defunct YouTuber, Vincent Vendetta.

I never saw Rey and Finn as a possible couple in The Force Awakens. I just saw them as friends. I didn’t hate that he ended up with Rose, though. I have faith that J.J. Abrams will wrap things nicely. I actually think that if the two survive in the end, with Ben being redeemed, it could help set up a possible fourth trilogy focused on their kids if Disney and Lucasfilm ever think about making another trilogy.

that’s the thing though , Disney has stated that this will be the final episodic Star wars installment , There is going to be a new trilogy by Rian Johnson ,which has stalled , that has nothing to do with the Skywalker saga . I think they have to wrap up plot points with episode 9 . I may be wrong though , I suppose they could change their minds .

They could change their minds. We all thought that Star Wars was done after Return of the Jedi, but we got more. We all thought we were no longer receiving any more movies after Revenge of the Sith, but we were wrong. Episodes X, XI, and XII are possible to happen in the future.

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Ren needs to fire a proton torpedo down Rey’s exhaust port.

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nl0428 said:

screams in the void said:

"I don’t believe modern Star Wars films are descending into these types of gossip. I believe that the ones who are responsible for creating terms such as “Reylo” are fans and shippers (not to sound critical towards these fans). “…SOME of these fans are the ones I was talking about and not the films themselves . Also , Rey may have been told one thing during the production of TLJ but it would not be the first time a plot point was hidden from the cast , they told everyone except Mark Hamill that the famous line was " Obi-Wan killed your father !” . I do not believe they will turn out to be siblings , nor do I believe they are going to be romantically involved , but I could be wrong . To state that anything is Empiracal fact is just speculation . You yourself said that things you thought were one way , turned out to be another .That happened a lot in the Original trilogy as well …back in 1977 , I was SURE Luke and Leia would end up together and the comics even ran with that idea , sometimes even after Empire was out .Anything can happen going forward .lastly , and just a pet peeve that my slightly ocd self gloamed in on is the term " shippers " another one I wish would die . I have been on the planet 47 years and have only heard it used in the past few years . That , and “hot take” which is something that I reserve for after a high fiber meal .Good points you bring up though, and as the Dude says , it’s just like , our collective opinions man ".

You are right, all film is subjective. I feel that the reason why Luke and Leia ended up as siblings and did not become a couple was due to George Lucas’ decisions back then. There is a great book called, “How Star Wars Conquered the Universe,” which describes the behind the scenes involvement that was occurring throughout the franchise’s history. At the time, George was still not to sure whether he wanted them to be a couple, or as siblings. These thoughts must have occurred in George’s head when making The Empire Strikes Back. They had hinted at Leia being Luke’s sister by having Yoda referring to another, and her sensing Luke on Cloud City, despite Leia giving Luke a couple-like kiss in front of Han on Hoth.

No, Leia was definitely not Luke’s sister circa TESB. There are deleted scenes that illustrate this in spades - as well as the Marvel adaptation of the film. It was a love triangle, pure and simple.

Nor was ‘the other’ referring to Leia at the time. Leia was a prisoner on Cloud City when Yoda made the claim. He had even just encouraged Luke to ‘sacrifice Han and Leia’ for the greater good (after Obi Wan admitted that “even Yoda cannot see their fate”).

As for ‘Reylo’, I actually really like the way their bond is depicted in TLJ, even if the overall writing is suspect. I love how Kylo almost begs her to join him. It’s a great character moment for him that is disappointingly dashed when he reverts to his old temper-tantrum throwing self whilst engaging Luke and the rebels on Soth (salt-Hoth).

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nl0428 said:

screams in the void said:

nl0428 said:

OutboundFlight said:

This is a pretty good video on just that topic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-qi4OhCii4

You know, back in the pre-TLJ days I thought Reylo was idiotic but TLJ goes to great lengths to set it up. Finn, who I believed would end up with Rey by the end, is now with Rose and Poe’s got BB8.

While it might be a cliché, it is an interesting and a new place of the franchise to go. If they do it right, it could help Ep 9. But doing it right would be very hard to pull off, and they might see the entire saga fall apart if they fail. Something to keep in the back of our minds, I guess.

This is a great video that explains why, but I really don’t like the title of the video. I thought the best videos the showcase this were the three-part theory video series by the now defunct YouTuber, Vincent Vendetta.

I never saw Rey and Finn as a possible couple in The Force Awakens. I just saw them as friends. I didn’t hate that he ended up with Rose, though. I have faith that J.J. Abrams will wrap things nicely. I actually think that if the two survive in the end, with Ben being redeemed, it could help set up a possible fourth trilogy focused on their kids if Disney and Lucasfilm ever think about making another trilogy.

^ at about 20 seconds into that video , I felt like shipping my pants

Unfortunately, I feel that the “Reylo” fans, such as fangirls who draw fan art of the two characters seen in the video are making this story direction look like garbage. That is one of the reasons why I think some of the most popular Star Wars fans out there, who are not toxic, do not mention it, because they see it as a fangirl shipping dream of theirs. I’m sorry if I sounded hateful, I didn’t mean to come off as that. “Shipping my pants” is hilarious!

^you did not sound hateful .I may have developed a sarcastic streak recently due to site osmosis and the death of a friend so sorry to everybody if I have not seemed myself of late .

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“No, Leia was definitely not Luke’s sister circa TESB. There are deleted scenes that illustrate this in spades - as well as the Marvel adaptation of the film. It was a love triangle, pure and simple.”- this is a correct statement and there are plenty of articles in publications such as Star Wars Insider , Starlog , Cinefex , Fantastic films etc to back it up as well as the making of books by J.W.Rinzler . I have many of these publications in storage boxes and will have to spend some time digging them up .

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nl0428 said:

screams in the void said:

"I don’t believe modern Star Wars films are descending into these types of gossip. I believe that the ones who are responsible for creating terms such as “Reylo” are fans and shippers (not to sound critical towards these fans). “…SOME of these fans are the ones I was talking about and not the films themselves . Also , Rey may have been told one thing during the production of TLJ but it would not be the first time a plot point was hidden from the cast , they told everyone except Mark Hamill that the famous line was " Obi-Wan killed your father !” . I do not believe they will turn out to be siblings , nor do I believe they are going to be romantically involved , but I could be wrong . To state that anything is Empiracal fact is just speculation . You yourself said that things you thought were one way , turned out to be another .That happened a lot in the Original trilogy as well …back in 1977 , I was SURE Luke and Leia would end up together and the comics even ran with that idea , sometimes even after Empire was out .Anything can happen going forward .lastly , and just a pet peeve that my slightly ocd self gloamed in on is the term " shippers " another one I wish would die . I have been on the planet 47 years and have only heard it used in the past few years . That , and “hot take” which is something that I reserve for after a high fiber meal .Good points you bring up though, and as the Dude says , it’s just like , our collective opinions man ".

You are right, all film is subjective. I feel that the reason why Luke and Leia ended up as siblings and did not become a couple was due to George Lucas’ decisions back then. There is a great book called, “How Star Wars Conquered the Universe,” which describes the behind the scenes involvement that was occurring throughout the franchise’s history. At the time, George was still not to sure whether he wanted them to be a couple, or as siblings. These thoughts must have occurred in George’s head when making The Empire Strikes Back. They had hinted at Leia being Luke’s sister by having Yoda referring to another, and her sensing Luke on Cloud City, despite Leia giving Luke a couple-like kiss in front of Han on Hoth.

No, Leia was definitely not Luke’s sister circa TESB. There are deleted scenes that illustrate this in spades - as well as the Marvel adaptation of the film. It was a love triangle, pure and simple.

Nor was ‘the other’ referring to Leia at the time. Leia was a prisoner on Cloud City when Yoda made the claim. He had even just encouraged Luke to ‘sacrifice Han and Leia’ for the greater good (after Obi Wan admitted that “even Yoda cannot see their fate”).

As for ‘Reylo’, I actually really like the way their bond is depicted in TLJ, even if the overall writing is suspect. I love how Kylo almost begs her to join him. It’s a great character moment for him that is disappointingly dashed when he reverts to his old temper-tantrum throwing self whilst engaging Luke and the rebels on Soth (salt-Hoth).

You are right about one thing. The late Gary Kurtz admitted after walking away from Star Wars after The Empire Strikes Back that Leia was not going to be Luke’s sister, and he had a sister on the other side of the Galaxy.

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screams in the void said:

nl0428 said:

screams in the void said:

nl0428 said:

OutboundFlight said:

This is a pretty good video on just that topic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-qi4OhCii4

You know, back in the pre-TLJ days I thought Reylo was idiotic but TLJ goes to great lengths to set it up. Finn, who I believed would end up with Rey by the end, is now with Rose and Poe’s got BB8.

While it might be a cliché, it is an interesting and a new place of the franchise to go. If they do it right, it could help Ep 9. But doing it right would be very hard to pull off, and they might see the entire saga fall apart if they fail. Something to keep in the back of our minds, I guess.

This is a great video that explains why, but I really don’t like the title of the video. I thought the best videos the showcase this were the three-part theory video series by the now defunct YouTuber, Vincent Vendetta.

I never saw Rey and Finn as a possible couple in The Force Awakens. I just saw them as friends. I didn’t hate that he ended up with Rose, though. I have faith that J.J. Abrams will wrap things nicely. I actually think that if the two survive in the end, with Ben being redeemed, it could help set up a possible fourth trilogy focused on their kids if Disney and Lucasfilm ever think about making another trilogy.

^ at about 20 seconds into that video , I felt like shipping my pants

Unfortunately, I feel that the “Reylo” fans, such as fangirls who draw fan art of the two characters seen in the video are making this story direction look like garbage. That is one of the reasons why I think some of the most popular Star Wars fans out there, who are not toxic, do not mention it, because they see it as a fangirl shipping dream of theirs. I’m sorry if I sounded hateful, I didn’t mean to come off as that. “Shipping my pants” is hilarious!

^you did not sound hateful .I may have developed a sarcastic streak recently due to site osmosis and the death of a friend so sorry to everybody if I have not seemed myself of late .

I am very sorry for the loss of your friend.

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screams in the void said:

“No, Leia was definitely not Luke’s sister circa TESB. There are deleted scenes that illustrate this in spades - as well as the Marvel adaptation of the film. It was a love triangle, pure and simple.”- this is a correct statement and there are plenty of articles in publications such as Star Wars Insider , Starlog , Cinefex , Fantastic films etc to back it up as well as the making of books by J.W.Rinzler . I have many of these publications in storage boxes and will have to spend some time digging them up .

Did you ever see/read the ‘Clone Wars revealed’ article (not sure which mag - Fantastic Films? - or the exact title) that explained how Vader would turn out to be a clone of Luke’s father and Boba Fett was actually the original Skywalker in disguise? Obi Wan was a clone too (Obi-1). Pretty wild stuff. I remember a friend of mine, upon having just seen RoTJ, saying “meh, they should’ve gone with the ideas in that article…”!