'Rey Skywalker' (Upcoming live action motion picture) - general discussion thread — Page 12

JadedSkywalker said:

I don’t know what to think. Larry hasn’t written a good script is so long I can’t recall the last film.

We are far removed in time from his writing the Empire Strikes Back, Return of the Jedi, Raiders of the Lost Ark. The Big Chill, Continental Divide and the Bodyguard. Silverado, or Wyatt Earp.

I think he was solid in the 1980s-1990s. What other than the dreadful, Dreamcatcher has he written in modern times other than unused draft on Clash of the Titans remake. Without pointing to Disney Star Wars.

You can’t because George Lucas plucked him out of retirement to write the Han Solo movie. And then Kathy put him on episode 7.

Everyone was like ZOMG he should have written the prequel; George is the problem remove him from the equation and hire Larry and we’ll get magic.

When I finished watching TFA nine years ago all I could think at that moment was "Seriously? This is the best Kasdan could come up with? Rehashing the first SW movie?

He probably did as he was told; rehashing is a safe bet after all. What he should have done was worked on the third movie to stop it turning to mush. There’s not much point coming back now and trying to do anything post-TROS.

Well I don’t really know how; the point has passed in which Rey might have become someone interesting. Why sit through the stupidity of part IX just to see if a miracle happens in part X? I’ll have to pass.

Mocata said:

Well I don’t really know how; the point has passed in which Rey might have become someone interesting. Why sit through the stupidity of part IX just to see if a miracle happens in part X? I’ll have to pass.

Plenty of people enjoy 4-6 despite 1-3 being garbage, do they not? All it takes is a good film, good story. In that, Rey could be a key player, a bit part, or even long dead in a future story. Post-TROS is a vast amount of time.

4-6 were made entirely separate from 1-3, 1-3 builds off of 4-6. But post-TRoS necessarily has to build off of TRoS, which really doesn’t lay any groundwork for anything worthwhile.

I think Rey does what Luke did in the EU and restores the Jedi. A lot of people are going to hate that. Its going to take some deft storytelling to win people over. I’m half convinced it won’t work, but flip a coin, I want to see them make a valiant effort to at least make it so Han, Leia and Luke’s deaths had meaning. My problem with ROS was the galaxy was in the same place as at the end of ROTJ except worse. No hope for Democracy, no Republic restored. Jedi order all but snuffed out. Every Skywalker is dead. What happened to the Empire, is the First Order really defeated forever, are the Sith finished for good. None of these were answered.

The galaxy’s only hope is a Palpatine. And her friend’s Poe, and Finn and Rose.

DZ-330 said:

• The Jedi are now actually the “guardians of peace” and travel to more dangerous planets to help topple tyrannical governments and gangs and restore freedom to the citizens.
• The big bads of this movie (or trilogy) would be the crime lords and underworld scum. I really think this is where George was going with bringing Maul back, but to make it different, I think something other than a darksider or Sith would be needed.

I love these ideas. Thrawn would have been perfect, but they’ve used him up. I would have preferred him or another warlord or Moff or even A Crimson Dawn or Black Sun, over another Sith.

Maybe even someone like like Tarkin but not Tarkin.

Yeah yeah, Finn becomes a Jedi, Poe becomes an Admiral, whatever, all things that should have been the story of TROS… but the issue is that these are endings not the start of new character arcs. You can throw in whatever new big bad and the problem is still there, you can’t really continue with this cast in a meaningful way now.

Of all the things i dislike about Disney’s handling of Luke the worst was teaching Grogu about attachments like a prequel Jedi, not my Luke. Rey forgoing the teachings on attachment would be a start.

OT Luke and EU was never afraid of attachments. I mean i know those prequel films happened but seriously it never existed in lore before the prequels. Except in the screenplay draft of Star Wars from 1974.

Everything i love about episode 8 isn’t Luke becoming a prequel Jedi and a failure just like them repeating their mistakes and following the same narrow dogma.

Its the astral projecting bit, it’s the rebellion is reborn today and I won’t be the last jedi. Its the part of explaining the force is bigger than the light and the dark. Its bigger than the Sith and the Jedi. Its in all living things and defines the cosmos. Also Luke finally realizing how wrong the Jedi were but being too old and broken to make a change. So Rey has to take up the lightsaber instead. That i don’t know if its good or bad i’m split on that.

Edit: also please no More Death Stars. No return to Tattoine.

JadedSkywalker said:

Its the astral projecting bit, it’s the rebellion is reborn today and I won’t be the last jedi. Its the part of explaining the force is bigger than the light and the dark. Its bigger than the Sith and the Jedi. Its in all living things and defines the cosmos. Also Luke finally realizing how wrong the Jedi were but being too old and broken to make a change. So Rey has to take up the lightsaber instead. That i don’t know if its good or bad i’m split on that.

Yeah. But again, all interesting ideas and good jumping off points for… a third part of the trilogy that doesn’t exist.

Yeah exactly, what threat, they’ve shot themselves in the foot going forwards in time too far and wasting the viable ideas already.

What untapped potential do you think they have? Disney seems to be going in the direction that Rey is going to be doing all the same stuff Luke did after Return of the Jedi. I was going to say the same thing Hal said, except I don’t think there even can be an answer to those questions because they have no basis in her character in the ST. They could make something up for what Rey brings to the table that Luke couldn’t, but any answer would feel really cynical to me.

I realize I’m poo-pooing on something I’ve already checked out on anyway, but what potential do you see in this? I’m curious. Or is it just that you think they should have a shot at it?

That’s certainly true.

I liked how plucky and heroic and idealistic Rose was, to almost a foolhardy degree. Everyone was screaming at me when I said I liked her character. And I very much disliked when JJ made her a nothing in episode 9. She was all but written out of the movie, in a seeming desire to erase The Last Jedi, and all the elements people complained about, were reversed/retconned. So Rise of Skywalker was a sequel to Force Awakens but not the last Jedi making a sort of duology and no trilogy, I feel like this was a huge mistake.

How do they move forward in the next movie, I have no idea where the story can go. But I’m sure that is why writers get paid to be creative.

JadedSkywalker said:

I liked how plucky and heroic to and idealistic Rose was, to almost a foolhardy degree. Everyone was screaming at me when I said I liked her character. And I very much disliked when JJ made her a nothing in episode 9. She was all but written out of the movie, in a seeming desire to erase The Last Jedi, and all the elements people complained about, were reversed/retconned. So Rise of Skywalker was a sequel to Force Awakens but not the last Jedi making a sort of duology and no trilogy, I feel like this was a huge mistake.

How do they move forward in the next movie, I have no idea where the story can go. But I’m sure that is why writers get paid to be creative.

Some writers seem to get paid for fail upwards.