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The heart? Well I mean if you had to pick a character that isn’t dead now…
I see she specifically said Rey Skywalker to really get all the usual suspects riled up.
'Rey Skywalker' (Upcoming live action motion picture) - general discussion thread — Page 10
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To be clear Luke is the heart of Star Wars for me, but that ship sailed with the prequel when Hayden Skywalker was made the heart of Star Wars. I’ll forever cherish Mark Hamill and the OT, but it’s like those Star Trek fans hoping Berman Trek is coming back at some point you have to realize things.
I hope the screenplay is good and the director did say she wanted to include something for long-term fans I wonder what that would be, a secret Mark Hamill cameo? If that was happening, I figured it would be in Dave’s movie.
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The director said Rey is the heart of Star Wars and all the fandom menace are losing their darn minds. Despite the fact that Luke passed the lightsaber in the sequel trilogy, the whole point of making those movies was Luke passing the torch so to speak. The Disney trilogy isn’t getting retconned and Luke’s story purpose has been given to Rey, to those fans who object to this hoping for a retcon or a Luke academy series walk away Star Wars died ten years ago for you.
I’m not gatekeeping I’m just pointing out a simple fact that those type of news channels if you can even call them that are totally obtuse about.
I not super excited for this film to be honest but I want to keep an open mind and heart. I hope the trailer when it arrives is good and maybe even my nieces might like it.
I’m not at all interested in the politics of how things are made or what have you I just want to enjoy Star Wars. I have to avoid those channels in my feed the algorithm promotes.
I agree. Whether people like it or not, Rey is Luke’s spiritual successor, and Luke was the original heart of the franchise (it was initially supposed to be called The Adventures of Luke Skywalker, after all).
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The director said Rey is the heart of Star Wars and all the fandom menace are losing their darn minds. Despite the fact that Luke passed the lightsaber in the sequel trilogy, the whole point of making those movies was Luke passing the torch so to speak. The Disney trilogy isn’t getting retconned and Luke’s story purpose has been given to Rey, to those fans who object to this hoping for a retcon or a Luke academy series walk away Star Wars died ten years ago for you.
I’m not gatekeeping I’m just pointing out a simple fact that those type of news channels if you can even call them that are totally obtuse about.
I not super excited for this film to be honest but I want to keep an open mind and heart. I hope the trailer when it arrives is good and maybe even my nieces might like it.
I’m not at all interested in the politics of how things are made or what have you I just want to enjoy Star Wars. I have to avoid those channels in my feed the algorithm promotes.
I agree. Whether people like it or not, Rey is Luke’s spiritual successor, and Luke was the original heart of the franchise (it was initially supposed to be called The Adventures of Luke Skywalker, after all).
That’s kinda the whole thing. Why the THREAT of “like it or not” matters right now in SW? Especially when it’s so convoluted and lacking any knowledge of SW lore? Rey…has not earned the spot other than Disney Lucasfilm saying so and parrots echoing such??
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Honestly…why do I keep coming back to Star Wars (and this site! LoL)? It seems like more of an unhealthy addiction than a real interest of mine at this point! Since ROS I have only watched one of the series (Kenobi) to its completion and that was the same way you stop and watch an accident on the side of the road. Or a particularly large piece of dog shit while taking a walk.
Anyway…Luke gets 3 movies and Rey now gets 4 (and counting). Star Wars: From the Adventures of Rey Palpawalker.
If there are any Star Wars fans that approve of this…well, what kind of Star Wars fan are you?
See what I did there?
“It is only through interaction, through decision and choice, through confrontation, physical or mental, that the Force can grow within you.”
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Honestly…why do I keep coming back to Star Wars (and this site! LoL)? It seems like more of an unhealthy addiction than a real interest of mine at this point!
Same. I’m only following Andor, and it took me a tremendous lot of convincing from the folks who aren’t mindless fanboys easily suckered by lightsabers and fanservice for me to take that leap of faith; my interest in everything else Disney’s put out is in the negative numbers.
“The Anarchists are right in everything; in the negation of the existing order and in the assertion that, without Authority there could not be worse violence than that of Authority under existing conditions. They are mistaken only in thinking that anarchy can be instituted by a violent revolution… There can be only one permanent revolution — a moral one: the regeneration of the inner man. How is this revolution to take place? Nobody knows how it will take place in humanity, but every man feels it clearly in himself. And yet in our world everybody thinks of changing humanity, and nobody thinks of changing himself.”
― Leo Tolstoy
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Honestly…why do I keep coming back to Star Wars (and this site! LoL)? It seems like more of an unhealthy addiction than a real interest of mine at this point!
Same. I’m only following Andor, and it took me a tremendous lot of convincing from the folks who aren’t mindless fanboys easily suckered by lightsabers and fanservice for me to take that leap of faith; my interest in everything else Disney’s put out is in the negative numbers.
And I will say what others are afraid to say: one of the reasons I like the OT is because the protagonist is a man. I like the hero’s journey idea. It is inspiring and more men need stuff like that in their lives. It is okay for something to be about and for (primarily) men and their experiences. The opposite is, of course, also true.
And yes…I do think the current zeitgeist in Disney is somewhat anti-male. I know this puts me in a place where I rub shoulders with unpleasant youtube grifters - but even a stopped clock is right twice a day.
“It is only through interaction, through decision and choice, through confrontation, physical or mental, that the Force can grow within you.”
-Kreia, Jedi Master and Sith Lord
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I don’t think anyone’s “afraid” to say it, nobody’s going to come and put you in jail for saying media that’s about and for men and their experiences is a good thing. Although I don’t think men are starved for male protagonists.
What do you mean by rubbing shoulders with unpleasant youtube grifters? Are you watching them and taking what they say seriously, or just failing to disagree with them on this one thing?
Honestly, it’s surprising to me that “Fandom Menace” grifters are still around. Disney Star Wars has been consistently pointless and not worth following for years now, nobody I know in real life is even watching it anymore. It’s also why I feel really surprised about the backlash to the Acolyte.
Not to shit on Star Wars too much. The reason we’re still talking about it, and the reason we’re still coming back here, is because it meant something to us once and we have a lot to say.
Reading R + L ≠ J theories
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It’s mildly infuriating to see the grifters continue to poison the well with their bizarre narratives when the problem is always just the quality of the product.
I wish this film luck. I’d like to see Rey redeemed after TROS.
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The current narrative is that all mainstream pop culture is bad, not just what falls under the (admittedly large) umbrella of Disney. Actual SW discussion seems to be dead as it once was at its height during the sequel trilogy. For me it became clear when that guy from Collider say he had been “busting his ass as a Star Wars fan” hahah jeez. The traffic those kind of videos got is clearly dead, so it’s just general entertainment for the masses / corporate decision making they dislike. And to be fair a Rey movie isn’t an artistic decision it’s just a branding one. They could do almost anything with the IP but they can’t get (or don’t have faith in) any proper writers apparently.
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And I will say what others are afraid to say: one of the reasons I like the OT is because the protagonist is a man. I like the hero’s journey idea. It is inspiring and more men need stuff like that in their lives. It is okay for something to be about and for (primarily) men and their experiences. The opposite is, of course, also true.
Ironically, Disney originally bought Star Wars because they wanted to expand their appeal to the male demographic. For decades, Disney content was more associated with the female demographic (e.g. Disney princesses, etc.) Bob Iger wanted to expand Disney’s appeal by encompassing broader content that would appeal to both men and women. That was, according to Iger, part of the long-term strategy behind buying Marvel and Star Wars - to get more males watching Disney content. Obviously, at some point between 2012 and the late 2010s, this thinking shifted.
Personally, I really like the idea of a female protagonist for Episodes 7 through 9. I think having another male protagonist for the third Trilogy would be too repetitive. If I could rewrite episodes 7 through 9, I would keep the female protagonist (I’d rename her though, I hate the name Rey). My primary gripe with the Sequels is not that the protagonist is female, but rather that they wrote the story as a reboot which wiped out all the prior progress established in the OT (e.g. the New Republic, Luke’s Jedi order). I would have loved a trilogy starring Rey, where she becomes Luke’s star pupil, and ultimately she carries on the Jedi torch after Luke dies. But that’s just not what we got.
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Honestly…why do I keep coming back to Star Wars (and this site! LoL)? It seems like more of an unhealthy addiction than a real interest of mine at this point!
Same. I’m only following Andor, and it took me a tremendous lot of convincing from the folks who aren’t mindless fanboys easily suckered by lightsabers and fanservice for me to take that leap of faith; my interest in everything else Disney’s put out is in the negative numbers.
And I will say what others are afraid to say: one of the reasons I like the OT is because the protagonist is a man. I like the hero’s journey idea. It is inspiring and more men need stuff like that in their lives. It is okay for something to be about and for (primarily) men and their experiences. The opposite is, of course, also true.
And yes…I do think the current zeitgeist in Disney is somewhat anti-male. I know this puts me in a place where I rub shoulders with unpleasant youtube grifters - but even a stopped clock is right twice a day.
I’m glad everyone is keeping things cordial but lets try to keep the discussion focused on the film itself, plot and casting speculation, etc. Thank you.
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If this movie and Dune 3 really do release on the same day, the only way I can see this one making money is if they do at least one of two things:
1.Integrate as many classic ghosts as possible (Luke, Anakin, Qui-Gon, etc.) into the story and put them all over the marketing.
2.Have all of Rey’s students be kids/tweens and make it clear in the marketing that this is a kids movie first and foremost, to contrast with dune being “Star Wars for adults.” Market the movie as a light, pulpy adventure, rather than a dark drama. A Barbenheimer situation, of sorts.
Nobody is also talking about the fact that the Gollum movie is also scheduled for this same week, and classic LotR characters like Aragorn and Gandalf are expected to return for that one too, and Jackson and the original screenwriters are involved as well.
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Those two suggestions are both things I would avoid at all costs if possible. At this stage it’s unclear if any of these movies will actually happen though, so any real release dates will probably change.
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Yeah now that I think about it more, Ridley’s performance as Rey got a bit better as the trilogy progressed, and part of that had to do with the story getting darker, so maybe darker is actually the way to go.
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Sneider said again today that he heard that Shawn Levy’s movie might also be about Rey and that she might be “older” in that one.
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Odds are at least one of those movies will get delayed, possibly because of Dune.