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But for anyone to consciously say that SW & ESB are not the two best SW movies, I almost laugh at them now. There is a debate as to which is better SW or ESB? And I seem them as 1 & 1a, but the rest of the movies from a pure movie perspective are utter shit that have moments that wow a SW fan, but not a movie going fan. Sure ROTJ has the great throne room scenes, but you have to love SW to enjoy it. Sure the duel in TPM is a high octane with the music blaring and the stunts ratchted up, but again, the average movie fan could care less. SW & ESB can appeal to a mainstream audience who is just looking for a great film to watch, the other 4 movies just please some of the SW fan who have kinda found their niche as to what they like. Do you notice the PT fans always rave about ROTJ the most out of the OT? Cause it focuses on Vader more then any other OT movie, and that is the story they like, and that is why they can't take a step back and realize the movie is average, just like the PT movies.