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Crawl text is ready to go and has been sent off! Here’s what I have, and why:

After years of civil war, the Republic is exhausted by relentless attacks from the ruthless Separatist leader Count Dooku. The Senate is desperate to win the war and end the conflict.

In his boldest move yet, the fiendish cyborg commander General Grievous has assaulted the Republic capital and captured its leader, Chancellor Palpatine.

As the Separatist forces attempt to break through the blockade with their valuable hostage, Jedi Knights Obi-Wan Kenobi and Anakin Skywalker lead a daring mission to rescue the Chancellor…

Para 1: I wanted to convey that everyone is just tired of the war continuing, and that the Senate’s approach to this is to just keep giving more power to Palpatine in order to win the thing rather than compromise by negotiating a ceasefire. In one scene of the movie, Padme practically begs Anakin to talk Palpatine into allowing diplomacy to resume; when her committee presents a plan for peace talks to Palpatine, he weasels out of it and dismisses the idea. This hopefully lends more depth to Palpatine as a canny career politician, and changes the Republic and its Senate from mindless puppets whose strings he pulls into people who have been worn down by a gruelling conflict, and have reached for flawed and human ways to end it without changing their own ways of life, allowing them to be exploited by Palpatine.
Para 2: I tried to make Grievous’ relation to Count Dooku in the Separatist military hierarchy clearer, so there’s more of a sense that the end days of the war have arrived when Dooku is killed and the lower ranking military-background Grievous becomes the Separatist leader - kind of like Doenitz succeeding Hitler, if you’re of a historical bent. I also wanted to ratchet up tension by making it clear that this wasn’t just any ordinary battle we were opening on; it was something unprecedented and could be a turning point in the war.
Para 3: I wanted to explain why the Separatist ships don’t just jump to hyperspace and vanish, and the vaguely unexplained concept of a “blockade” from The Phantom Menace seemed to fit that bill while also subtly tying the end of the prequel trilogy back to its start. I also tried to imply that Obi-Wan and Anakin aren’t the main focus of things here militarily speaking; they’re trying to be one little insignificant squad of fighters getting lost in the crowd of proper military tactics going on around them, zooming in on their own fringe mission to try an unconventional approach. Hopefully this makes them feel even more like a plucky band of heroes, and pays off with Anakin being so formally lauded by the politicians afterwards.

On the technical side of things, I’ve managed to export the movie, and I’ve also installed Handbrake. It’s like miracle software. I opened the movie file with it and it automatically set everything to the correct settings, removed the black bars, and exported it at half the file size with no noticeable difference in quality. Whoever makes this program should make all programs.

I’m going to hold off on sharing the file with anybody yet; I’m going to watch it through to “proofread” for any final mistakes that have slipped through, and I’ll wait until the new opening crawl (thank you Eyepainter!) is finished as well. This started as me just wanting to reinstate one line Hal cut from his version for my own personal viewing enjoyment, and turned into an entire fanedit of its own (albeit one I’d still consider a “tweak” moreso than a new thing in its own right, but even so). This site is a great community to be a part of.

“It’s like rhymetry. They poem.” - Leorge Gucas

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I’ve successfully exported the version with the new crawl, but no matter what settings I use in Handbrake, I can’t get the file to play on my TV (it plays fine on my laptop). I have a Hisence UHD TV, and I just can’t figure it out. It’s driving me mad.

“It’s like rhymetry. They poem.” - Leorge Gucas

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CaptainFaraday said:

I’ve successfully exported the version with the new crawl, but no matter what settings I use in Handbrake, I can’t get the file to play on my TV (it plays fine on my laptop). I have a Hisence UHD TV, and I just can’t figure it out. It’s driving me mad.

I’ve had plenty of issues getting a file to play on my HDTV too. Fortunately, I have a blu-ray player that is fine playing MKV and MP4 files via usb flash drive. It’s possible that the TV flat out refuses to play any large files period. However, if it works on your laptop, that probably means it isn’t the file that’s the issue. If you exported it to MP4 or MKV, those two files are the most widely used for fanedits, so you’re probably fine.

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Eyepainter said:

CaptainFaraday said:

I’ve successfully exported the version with the new crawl, but no matter what settings I use in Handbrake, I can’t get the file to play on my TV (it plays fine on my laptop). I have a Hisence UHD TV, and I just can’t figure it out. It’s driving me mad.

I’ve had plenty of issues getting a file to play on my HDTV too. Fortunately, I have a blu-ray player that is fine playing MKV and MP4 files via usb flash drive. It’s possible that the TV flat out refuses to play any large files period. However, if it works on your laptop, that probably means it isn’t the file that’s the issue. If you exported it to MP4 or MKV, those two files are the most widely used for fanedits, so you’re probably fine.

My TV plays 85% of all files fine, but there are some files it doesn’t like for unknown reasons. I’ve exported it with the exact same containers and settings etc as a movie that plays perfectly fine, and it still won’t play it. It’s apparently a common issue with this model of TV, according to a google search - very frustrating.

I’ll watch it tonight on my laptop and then it should be good to upload.

“It’s like rhymetry. They poem.” - Leorge Gucas

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Something I’d like to add in a V2, if I ever do one, is a modified version of one of NFBisms’ changes - a really neat bit of audio trickery in the missed briefing scene, where he has Obi-Wan tell Anakin “Your apprentice has moved her troops to Mandalore.” I’d want to change it to “Ahsoka has… etc” instead, though; “your apprentice” implies information about Anakin the audience doesn’t know and will never get touched upon again (he has an apprentice?). Naming her directly means that if the audience doesn’t recognise the significance of the name, it’s just some technobabble in context (like the original line it replaces).

I’d be able to get a clean clip of Obi-Wan saying “Ahsoka” with the right intonation somewhere in TCW, but even then it might not work, since that extended open “oh” sound is one of the places where James Arnold Taylor’s Obi-Wan voice is noticeably different from Ewan MacGregor’s. I’ll keep an ear out while next time I watch TCW, regardless.

“It’s like rhymetry. They poem.” - Leorge Gucas

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CaptainFaraday said:

Something I’d like to add in a V2, if I ever do one, is a modified version of one of NFBisms’ changes - a really neat bit of audio trickery in the missed briefing scene, where he has Obi-Wan tell Anakin “Your apprentice has moved her troops to Mandalore.” I’d want to change it to “Ahsoka has… etc” instead, though; “your apprentice” implies information about Anakin the audience doesn’t know and will never get touched upon again (he has an apprentice?). Naming her directly means that if the audience doesn’t recognise the significance of the name, it’s just some technobabble in context (like the original line it replaces).

I’d be able to get a clean clip of Obi-Wan saying “Ahsoka” with the right intonation somewhere in TCW, but even then it might not work, since that extended open “oh” sound is one of the places where James Arnold Taylor’s Obi-Wan voice is noticeably different from Ewan MacGregor’s. I’ll keep an ear out while next time I watch TCW, regardless.

Maybe he’ll say her name in ‘Kenobi’.

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Artan42 said:

CaptainFaraday said:

Something I’d like to add in a V2, if I ever do one, is a modified version of one of NFBisms’ changes - a really neat bit of audio trickery in the missed briefing scene, where he has Obi-Wan tell Anakin “Your apprentice has moved her troops to Mandalore.” I’d want to change it to “Ahsoka has… etc” instead, though; “your apprentice” implies information about Anakin the audience doesn’t know and will never get touched upon again (he has an apprentice?). Naming her directly means that if the audience doesn’t recognise the significance of the name, it’s just some technobabble in context (like the original line it replaces).

I’d be able to get a clean clip of Obi-Wan saying “Ahsoka” with the right intonation somewhere in TCW, but even then it might not work, since that extended open “oh” sound is one of the places where James Arnold Taylor’s Obi-Wan voice is noticeably different from Ewan MacGregor’s. I’ll keep an ear out while next time I watch TCW, regardless.

Maybe he’ll say her name in ‘Kenobi’.

I hadn’t thought about that - yes, it seems fairly likely. Either way, it’s something I’ll keep an ear out for.

“It’s like rhymetry. They poem.” - Leorge Gucas

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So, I’m currently having a very weird issue; when I play the movie through my bluray player, there’s a static phantom image of the opening crawl overlayed across the entire opening crawl. But when I play the same file on my laptop, there isn’t. I’ve checked and it doesn’t happen in the editing software either. I’ve got the same problem later in the film when some hazy blobs which look like mattes appear in a couple of scenes, which also aren’t there on the computer.

Edit: I’ve tried re-exporting from my editing software, and had the exact same problem.

“It’s like rhymetry. They poem.” - Leorge Gucas

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CaptainFaraday said:

So, I’m currently having a very weird issue; when I play the movie through my bluray player, there’s a static phantom image of the opening crawl overlayed across the entire opening crawl. But when I play the same file on my laptop, there isn’t. I’ve checked and it doesn’t happen in the editing software either. I’ve got the same problem later in the film when some hazy blobs which look like mattes appear in a couple of scenes, which also aren’t there on the computer.

Edit: I’ve tried re-exporting from my editing software, and had the exact same problem.

This is new to me. I’m not 100 percent sure on what you’re describing. If it doesn’t bother you, would you be fine sending me a link? Since I’m the one who sent the crawl, I can look it over and see if there’s a mistake on my end when I have the spare time.

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Eyepainter said:

CaptainFaraday said:

So, I’m currently having a very weird issue; when I play the movie through my bluray player, there’s a static phantom image of the opening crawl overlayed across the entire opening crawl. But when I play the same file on my laptop, there isn’t. I’ve checked and it doesn’t happen in the editing software either. I’ve got the same problem later in the film when some hazy blobs which look like mattes appear in a couple of scenes, which also aren’t there on the computer.

Edit: I’ve tried re-exporting from my editing software, and had the exact same problem.

This is new to me. I’m not 100 percent sure on what you’re describing. If it doesn’t bother you, would you be fine sending me a link? Since I’m the one who sent the crawl, I can look it over and see if there’s a mistake on my end when I have the spare time.

I don’t think it’s anything on your end - it’s not present in the .pngs, nor in the editor, nor when I watch the movie on my laptop. I’ll have to take a photo of my TV screen to show you.

That said, you’re welcome to see my export before I release it to the public; always helps to get more eyes on it. I’ve already found a couple of little errors I’ll fix first.

“It’s like rhymetry. They poem.” - Leorge Gucas

The Rise of Skywalker Expanded Edition by Rae Carson: The Faraday Edit, The Last Jedi: Stoic Edition, Revenge of the Sith: The Faraday Nudge, ROTS Ultracut: Order 66, Godzilla Vs Megalon, The Light Rises, Faraday Junior’s Star Wars

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CaptainFaraday said:

Eyepainter said:

CaptainFaraday said:

So, I’m currently having a very weird issue; when I play the movie through my bluray player, there’s a static phantom image of the opening crawl overlayed across the entire opening crawl. But when I play the same file on my laptop, there isn’t. I’ve checked and it doesn’t happen in the editing software either. I’ve got the same problem later in the film when some hazy blobs which look like mattes appear in a couple of scenes, which also aren’t there on the computer.

Edit: I’ve tried re-exporting from my editing software, and had the exact same problem.

This is new to me. I’m not 100 percent sure on what you’re describing. If it doesn’t bother you, would you be fine sending me a link? Since I’m the one who sent the crawl, I can look it over and see if there’s a mistake on my end when I have the spare time.

I don’t think it’s anything on your end - it’s not present in the .pngs, nor in the editor, nor when I watch the movie on my laptop. I’ll have to take a photo of my TV screen to show you.

That said, you’re welcome to see my export before I release it to the public; always helps to get more eyes on it. I’ve already found a couple of little errors I’ll fix first.

Understood. Looking over what I’m reading so far, it’s possible that you might’ve accidentally clicked on something in Handbrake to cause the effect. Trying to find out what it was could take forever, so here’s a list of settings that I use for exporting a file. See if these settings fix the problem.

Summary tab
Format: MP4 or MKV
Presets (on right side of the window): SuperHQ 720p30 surround under General tab or H.264 MKV 720p30 under Matroska tab (I would say 1080p but your file is 720p, so that’s probably the better option)

Dimensions tab
Width: 1280
Height: 544
Cropping: Custom
Left and right: 0
Top and bottom: 132
(Note: if you ever decide on 1080p, go with 1920 width, 820 height, and customize the cropping to 130 top and bottom, and 0 left and right)

Video tab
Video Codec: H.264 (x264) (If you have a compatible Nvidia graphics card, you can speed up the export by selecting H.264 (Nvidia NVenc) instead)
Framerate (FPS): 24 or 23.976, if possible. (Most movies are at 24FPS, so this is an ideal choice by default. However, you might want to make sure you edited the film in 24 frames per second, or else, some issues may occur. Check Premiere Pro to see what settings you used for the framerate. If you’ve picked a different framerate, it might be wiser to export it in that framerate instead.)
Constant quality: 0 (for a lossless export. It will slow the export a lot, but the quality is worth it)
Encoder Preset: Slow (Usually, slower results in a better quality image, but like the lossless option, it will also slow down the export. If you want it faster, be warned that it could affect the quality of the file)
Encoder profile: Main or High (Truth be told, the effects of this one aren’t quite as noticable, but I think Main and High look slightly less compressed, so those are my recommendations)
Audio tab
Anything goes with this one, as it’s basically which audio tracks you want the file to have.

Mixdown: I like to make one track a 5.1 channel and the other track a stereo track, but if you only have one track, I recommend a 5.1 or higher mixdown.
Codec: This one’s a really picky one, and the best choice is whatever works. AAC (avcodec) is a very widely used one amongst us fan editors. AC3 is code for Dolby Digital, while E-AC3 is Dolby Digital Plus. I often use the DTS-HD passthru on my fanedits, and that option works perfectly for me. However, your experience may differ.
Bitrate: This option depends on which codec you select, but if bitrate is an option, be aware that the larger numbers are the better options. However, as you probably figured out, the larger numbers make the export slower, so pick your numbers wisely. If you don’t have enough patience, you are free to select a smaller number. Just be aware that the audio quality will be lowered.

I have altered Lucas’ visions. Pray I don’t alter them any further.

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Eyepainter said:

CaptainFaraday said:

Eyepainter said:

CaptainFaraday said:

So, I’m currently having a very weird issue; when I play the movie through my bluray player, there’s a static phantom image of the opening crawl overlayed across the entire opening crawl. But when I play the same file on my laptop, there isn’t. I’ve checked and it doesn’t happen in the editing software either. I’ve got the same problem later in the film when some hazy blobs which look like mattes appear in a couple of scenes, which also aren’t there on the computer.

Edit: I’ve tried re-exporting from my editing software, and had the exact same problem.

This is new to me. I’m not 100 percent sure on what you’re describing. If it doesn’t bother you, would you be fine sending me a link? Since I’m the one who sent the crawl, I can look it over and see if there’s a mistake on my end when I have the spare time.

I don’t think it’s anything on your end - it’s not present in the .pngs, nor in the editor, nor when I watch the movie on my laptop. I’ll have to take a photo of my TV screen to show you.

That said, you’re welcome to see my export before I release it to the public; always helps to get more eyes on it. I’ve already found a couple of little errors I’ll fix first.

Understood. Looking over what I’m reading so far, it’s possible that you might’ve accidentally clicked on something in Handbrake to cause the effect. Trying to find out what it was could take forever, so here’s a list of settings that I use for exporting a file. See if these settings fix the problem.

Summary tab
Format: MP4 or MKV
Presets (on right side of the window): SuperHQ 720p30 surround under General tab or H.264 MKV 720p30 under Matroska tab (I would say 1080p but your file is 720p, so that’s probably the better option)

Dimensions tab
Width: 1280
Height: 544
Cropping: Custom
Left and right: 0
Top and bottom: 132
(Note: if you ever decide on 1080p, go with 1920 width, 820 height, and customize the cropping to 130 top and bottom, and 0 left and right)

Video tab
Video Codec: H.264 (x264) (If you have a compatible Nvidia graphics card, you can speed up the export by selecting H.264 (Nvidia NVenc) instead)
Framerate (FPS): 24 or 23.976, if possible. (Most movies are at 24FPS, so this is an ideal choice by default. However, you might want to make sure you edited the film in 24 frames per second, or else, some issues may occur. Check Premiere Pro to see what settings you used for the framerate. If you’ve picked a different framerate, it might be wiser to export it in that framerate instead.)
Constant quality: 0 (for a lossless export. It will slow the export a lot, but the quality is worth it)
Encoder Preset: Slow (Usually, slower results in a better quality image, but like the lossless option, it will also slow down the export. If you want it faster, be warned that it could affect the quality of the file)
Encoder profile: Main or High (Truth be told, the effects of this one aren’t quite as noticable, but I think Main and High look slightly less compressed, so those are my recommendations)
Audio tab
Anything goes with this one, as it’s basically which audio tracks you want the file to have.

Mixdown: I like to make one track a 5.1 channel and the other track a stereo track, but if you only have one track, I recommend a 5.1 or higher mixdown.
Codec: This one’s a really picky one, and the best choice is whatever works. AAC (avcodec) is a very widely used one amongst us fan editors. AC3 is code for Dolby Digital, while E-AC3 is Dolby Digital Plus. I often use the DTS-HD passthru on my fanedits, and that option works perfectly for me. However, your experience may differ.
Bitrate: This option depends on which codec you select, but if bitrate is an option, be aware that the larger numbers are the better options. However, as you probably figured out, the larger numbers make the export slower, so pick your numbers wisely. If you don’t have enough patience, you are free to select a smaller number. Just be aware that the audio quality will be lowered.

This information is like solid gold to me.

I’ve already started uploading my current version to Drive, but the next thing I do (and I’ve got a bunch of ideas for post-TROS-novelisation edits) I’ll use these settings and see how it goes.

“It’s like rhymetry. They poem.” - Leorge Gucas

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Mind sending a link? Sounds like a cool edit of the film!

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CaptainFaraday said:

I’m just curious: has anyone watched the end credits?

I have!

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Eyepainter said:

CaptainFaraday said:

I’m just curious: has anyone watched the end credits?

I have!

What did you think of the mid-credits scene? I had fun editing it together.

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I thought it was pretty good. I’m not sure it was necessary, but I’m not disappointed. As a tribute to the original trilogy, it works.

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I thought it was a nice little touch Captain, and really enjoyed your edit. Thank you very much for sharing it with me.

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Thank you both! I wouldn’t include post-credit scenes if I was doing a “cinema quality” edit, but in a vanity edit for myself, I thought it would be fun.

“It’s like rhymetry. They poem.” - Leorge Gucas

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