logo Sign In

Return of the Jedi: A Gentle Pruning (* unfinished project *) — Page 2

Author
Time

Dat_SW_Guy said:

A quick suggestion, Can you possibly restructure the Jabba “plan” sequence? It seems to me there’s no plan to save Han at all. All they just do is to get captured and wait for Luke to rescue them.

I feel like that’s something that can’t be solved be fan editing

No offense, kid, but I don’t think you know how to boil water.

Author
Time

Do you plan on removing Leia’s “Somehow I’ve always known.”?

Author
Time

CourtlyHades296 said:

Do you plan on removing Leia’s “Somehow I’ve always known.”?

Nah, but I suppose it’d fair to try it when I get there and just see what I think.

I can no longer use FCP7 due to Apple and haven’t really done much to date with FCPX. This project will be a learning experience. I expect it to be maddening, but I’ll emerge from it capable of using the tools I will need to keep going with future projects.
I can see how FCPX would be much better for content creators, but it’ll feel counterintuitive until I reckon with it through playing around. We’ll get there; I already know how to do it, just not HOW to do it.

My stance on revising fan edits.

Author
Time
 (Edited)

I’d gotten so proficient with FCP7 and I’m swearing at FCPX as I try to adapt to its very different way of doing things. But we’re getting there, though I’m still just messing around rather than beginning real work on ROTJ.

Anyone have gonk droid sound effects? I only find one or two on Google, so I may have to try recording a few. I’d like to have the torture scene with the gonk droid repeating “gonk” rather than screaming. “Gonk. Gonk. Gonk-Gonk-GONK-GONK!!”
Removing the sounds outright leaves the shot feeling a little too long, and cutting into it early seems off. Since I’m keeping Lapti Nek, I need some sort of sound from the droid to make the transition out of the scene to work.

Anyone got Gonks? Or wants to try voice acting as one?

And if anyone has KK650’s V2.6, please let me know.

My stance on revising fan edits.

Author
Time

I’ve got a bunch of Gonks from Battlefront if you want em.

Author
Time

Are you considering replacing (some of) Artoo’s beeps?

Author
Time
 (Edited)

Here’s an incredibly rough proof of concept for the gonk thing. Use your imagination, because I do not yet have the actual audio in front of me I hope to use for the film, and so I just muted it toward the end. The center channel is missing after the first gonk part, and since this is just a quick thing I didn’t bother to re-render.

https://vimeo.com/249442255

As I sit and reflect on this project, the more I think I would be doing myself a big favor to NOT do it. At least not in the immediate future. Trying to bring the knife to ROTJ, which I had previously resolved not to do, while learning an aggravating new NLE with a baby on the way in a month… probably wasn’t a great idea. And posting a thread for it right away might have been even worse.

Maybe someday, after ROTJ:R is released, the Despecialized Edition goes as far as it can, and perhaps other things unforeseeable, the time will ripen to attempt something like this.

This project is currently: STALLED. I may revisit this, but then again, I might not. I might just have to wait until TLJ hits home video to learn enough FCPX to be able to work on it. Or I could just find a way to keep using FCP7 in perpetuity. 😕

My stance on revising fan edits.

Author
Time

Congrats on the baby!

That preview clip is great! Sort of makes it feel more like maintenance rather than torture.

Author
Time

Dat_SW_Guy said:

A quick suggestion, Can you possibly restructure the Jabba “plan” sequence? It seems to me there’s no plan to save Han at all. All they just do is to get captured and wait for Luke to rescue them.

Hal 9000 said:

Hadn’t planned to alter the… plan, but I am open to suggestions, provided they are simple and elegant changes.

I’ve seen videos somewhere on how to fix this… I’ll be back

Prequel Fan-Edit thread: http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Yet-another-series-of-prequel-edits/id/17329

Author
Time

Hal 9000 said:

Trying to bring the knife to ROTJ, which I had previously resolved not to do, while learning an aggravating new NLE with a baby on the way in a month… probably wasn’t a great idea. And posting a thread for it right away might have been even worse.

I feel your pain there. There are more than a couple old project threads floating around the forum I started years and years ago that I never finished. I’ve got a few things I’m working on now that I won’t announce/make threads for until I know completion is in sight.

Sorry to hear you’re putting this on hold, but I certainly understand your reasons.

Sucks that FCPX is so different than FCP7. I remember when X was announced during my last year of college, a lot of the other guys in my post-production program had nothing but awful things to say about it. A couple swore off Final Cut altogether in favor of either Avid or Premiere because of it.

Author
Time

At this point I’m leaning toward virtualizing Snow Leopard to keep old projects on life support and just keep using FCP7 for the foreseeable future. It’s not like I’m a progessional for whom it would be worth it. I will get better at FCPX by playing around first, but I’ll keep FCP7 here for a long time via a VM.

My stance on revising fan edits.

Author
Time
 (Edited)

My congratulations upon your coming fatherhood! 😃 I’d be stoked if you ever did choose to continue this project though, your edits always end up becoming my definitive versions of the films, and I’m still in need of an edit of ROTJ that lives up to my expectations. 😃 ROTJ:Revisited is probably still faar away.

Author
Time

CourtlyHades296 said:

I think the Jerjerrod deleted scenes should be restored.

If we can get a McDiarmid soundalike to dub in the Emperor’s lines seamlessly, then yes, absolutely.

Author
Time

ChainsawAsh said:

CourtlyHades296 said:

I think the Jerjerrod deleted scenes should be restored.

If we can get a McDiarmid soundalike to dub in the Emperor’s lines seamlessly, then yes, absolutely.

Soon we’ll have a program for that - we already have one to recreate people’s faces… people’s voices mustn’t be too hard. Someone will eventually create an algorithm that analyzes pitch and every single factor that goes into someone’s voice and be able to recreate it. I really don’t doubt it.

Author
Time

Collipso said:

ChainsawAsh said:

CourtlyHades296 said:

I think the Jerjerrod deleted scenes should be restored.

If we can get a McDiarmid soundalike to dub in the Emperor’s lines seamlessly, then yes, absolutely.

Soon we’ll have a program for that - we already have one to recreate people’s faces… people’s voices mustn’t be too hard. Someone will eventually create an algorithm that analyzes pitch and every single factor that goes into someone’s voice and be able to recreate it. I really don’t doubt it.

Its only a matter of time. Adobe’s Project VoCo is an example (still unreleased) and a company called Lyrebird is doing something similar too.

Author
Time

We’ll be able to insert “your mother once thought as you do”!!

Author
Time

Yeah, I’m not crazy about that deleted scene, especially given the shape it’s in. Best of luck to anyone who wants to try to incorporate it, but I’m not your guy for it.

We can mash up every possible combination of Jake Lloyd, Hayden Christensen, and Sebastian Shaw in each of their respective appearances. Make ROTJ Jabba look like 1997 ANH:SE Jabba. Have James Earl Jones’ Vader mutter “wizard” to himself as Luke evades his TIE in the Death Star trench. Map Tarkin’s face onto itself for ANH to match the uncanny CGI Rogue One version.
Hmm… I should throw in one more. Let’s say… recast Obi-Wan’s ghost to be Ewan McGregor throughout ESB and ROTJ.

All these things would be tons of fun, but I don’t really see any practical use for this technology for Star Wars at this point in time, at least visually. None that I would actually want to be included in a real project, though I would love to see any of the above as mockups. There’s more potential in the audio department; that could yield some very useful results for edits.

My stance on revising fan edits.

Author
Time

May I suggest you cut all of the Emperor’s scenes before the confrontation? Neither of the scenes add anything besides the Enperor bossing Vader around (which sort of diminishes his character). With constant allusions to the Emperor (Moff being scared, Yoda’s warning) there would be a lot more tension when Luke meets him if we haven’t either. It would let the audience build him up throughout the movie.

Maul- A Star Wars Story

Author
Time

OutboundFlight said:

May I suggest you cut all of the Emperor’s scenes before the confrontation? Neither of the scenes add anything besides the Enperor bossing Vader around (which sort of diminishes his character). With constant allusions to the Emperor (Moff being scared, Yoda’s warning) there would be a lot more tension when Luke meets him if we haven’t either. It would let the audience build him up throughout the movie.

That is an interesting idea. My only question is how to get him on board the Death Star without revealing him. Perhaps wipe to new scene while he descends the ramp of his shuttle so we only get a brief glimpse of him with his face obscured.

Author
Time
 (Edited)

darth_ender said:

OutboundFlight said:

May I suggest you cut all of the Emperor’s scenes before the confrontation? Neither of the scenes add anything besides the Enperor bossing Vader around (which sort of diminishes his character). With constant allusions to the Emperor (Moff being scared, Yoda’s warning) there would be a lot more tension when Luke meets him if we haven’t either. It would let the audience build him up throughout the movie.

That is an interesting idea. My only question is how to get him on board the Death Star without revealing him. Perhaps wipe to new scene while he descends the ramp of his shuttle so we only get a brief glimpse of him with his face obscured.

You have the Mon Mothma line saying that he’s overseeing the completion of the Death Star himself and that he’s there, so I don’t think that’d be a problem.