I've started to do some restoration of the good old Star Wars scenes.
I'm using MoveAlong's PAL rips.
Here is a video of first 30 seconds : http://www.mediafire.com/?ouwwslc3xtw
What do you think so far ?
The upper part is always rip from MoveAlong's DVD, the bottom part is mine.
Is anybody doing something similar ?
Well, the source is very bad, so I can't say you've done a bad job.
But it just looks very overfiltered to me. The background basically has lost any texture and is just smeared completely out.
This is most evident when Luke has just entered the building, compare the original wall texture to the new - all detail is lost.
I suggest cutting back a little on the filtering so you don't lose too much detail. Of course that's the real trick, finding the perfect middle ground between filtering and too much filtering. :)
How are you doing this? A general filter chain or hand-cleaning each frame, or a combination?
Good luck anyway! :)
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I have to agree with the above. All texture has been smoothed out giving an artificial, over-processed feel to the images.
(FWIW I made the same mistake when I did this.)
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I perfectly understand what you mean. I agree, but I wanted to hear another oppinion :)
It's been done by NeatVideo, and then manual frame-by-frame removing the dirt.
I'll do another try :)
For some reason I can't watch the clip, but it's like a nice job.
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Josh said:For some reason I can't watch the clip, but it's like a nice job.
It's a mpv file, maybe you can try renaming the extension to mpg, or open it through something like VideoLan
pittrek said:It's been done by NeatVideo, and then manual frame-by-frame removing the dirt.
I'll do another try :)
I highly recommend that you do as much manual dirt removal as possible before you start using automated video filters.
Interesting idea. May I ask why do you think it's better ?
It's best to manually fix the damaged frames and to do a little bit of manual dirt cleanup first because once you've done that, you'll have a "pristine" reference video that you can then try all sorts of video filters on. So lets say that you apply a filter on your manually cleaned reference video and it smooths over too much image detail - well, not to worry, because you can just start over again and try different settings or other filters on the reference file. The major plus of this is that you won't have to keep going back and having to fix those badly damaged frames every time you want to try using different video filters/settings. This will save you time and allow you to do more experimentation, which will hopefully get the video image to look as good as it possibly could.
I'm with RidgeShark...I think you're working backwards. By trying to use filters to get rid of the "big" damage first, it's eliminating the subtle detail like rock textures, thinking that that stuff is damage as well.
By going through and getting rid of major issues manually, you're starting out with a better base image for the filters to work on, so they won't have to be set to such extreme levels to do their job.
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OK, I'm doing it now this way
1) AviSynth - cropping the black bars + stabilizing with deflicker + removing every second frame
2) Manual cleanup of most noticable damage
3) Video filters
4) last modifications (if needed)
I'll post some screenshots as soon as I have something interesting
I shall be waiting.
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Sounds great. And whatever Adywan did to digitally recreate the missing frames for his deleted scenes supplement on Revisited - it would be amazing to see that process applied to the footage after you get it all cleaned up.
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Great idea - I have been sick of fan Star Wars stuff for ages BUT now I am in the mood again. Thanks
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