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That’s suspicious.

Do you guys see what I did there?

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moviefreakedmind said:

Another example of Christian opposition to freedom:

https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2018/09/anti-lgbtq-protesters-swarmed-library-protest-drag-queen-story-hour/

If you call the normalization of mental illnesses freedom, then sure. Gender dysphoria is contagious among certain segments of the population, so I have a hard time believing that it’s normal and healthy to believe you’re in the wrong body. What happened to telling people to be happy with their body and the way they are?

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RicOlie_2 said:

moviefreakedmind said:

Another example of Christian opposition to freedom:

https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2018/09/anti-lgbtq-protesters-swarmed-library-protest-drag-queen-story-hour/

If you call the normalization of mental illnesses freedom, then sure. Gender dysphoria is contagious among certain segments of the population, so I have a hard time believing that it’s normal and healthy to believe you’re in the wrong body. What happened to telling people to be happy with their body and the way they are?

Though comment sections rarely offer anything edifying, I found this comment from your linked article quite agreeable:

The truth is likely somewhere in between. It is misguided to assume that ‘ALL individuals who experience gender dysphoria are born that way’, or that ‘ALL individuals who experience gender dysphoria are confused’. When you start contemplating ALL or NOTHING statements in social or psychological research, you are probably wrong.

It is important that we clarify these issues and determine how best to approach gender dysphoria in these young populations. I could not even imagine the potential regret or harm that young individuals might experience by making decisions at a young age that will impact their entire lives. I absolutely support counselling that includes exploration of social and psychological issues as part of a complete treatment plan. It’s important not to be narrow-minded.

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DuracellEnergizer said:

RicOlie_2 said:

moviefreakedmind said:

Another example of Christian opposition to freedom:

https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2018/09/anti-lgbtq-protesters-swarmed-library-protest-drag-queen-story-hour/

If you call the normalization of mental illnesses freedom, then sure. Gender dysphoria is contagious among certain segments of the population, so I have a hard time believing that it’s normal and healthy to believe you’re in the wrong body. What happened to telling people to be happy with their body and the way they are?

Though comment sections rarely offer anything edifying, I found this comment from your linked article quite agreeable:

The truth is likely somewhere in between. It is misguided to assume that ‘ALL individuals who experience gender dysphoria are born that way’, or that ‘ALL individuals who experience gender dysphoria are confused’. When you start contemplating ALL or NOTHING statements in social or psychological research, you are probably wrong.

It is important that we clarify these issues and determine how best to approach gender dysphoria in these young populations. I could not even imagine the potential regret or harm that young individuals might experience by making decisions at a young age that will impact their entire lives. I absolutely support counselling that includes exploration of social and psychological issues as part of a complete treatment plan. It’s important not to be narrow-minded.

You went into the comments section on an Internet news site and not only came out unscathed, but having found a thoughtful and cogent analysis in there.

I am now considering starting a religion worshipping you, but I’d like to know your opinion on ritual flagellation before I get too far down that road.

Project Threepio (Star Wars OOT subtitles)

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RicOlie_2 said:

moviefreakedmind said:

Another example of Christian opposition to freedom:

https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2018/09/anti-lgbtq-protesters-swarmed-library-protest-drag-queen-story-hour/

If you call the normalization of mental illnesses freedom, then sure.

Dressing in drag is mental illness? Whatever education your seminary is giving you is not in accordance with reality.

Gender dysphoria is contagious among certain segments of the population, so I have a hard time believing that it’s normal and healthy to believe you’re in the wrong body. What happened to telling people to be happy with their body and the way they are?

What does any of that have to do with the Christians against those libraries? The library readings were just drag queens reading to an audience of children. Are you arguing that public libraries not allow that to happen?

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CatBus said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

RicOlie_2 said:

moviefreakedmind said:

Another example of Christian opposition to freedom:

https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2018/09/anti-lgbtq-protesters-swarmed-library-protest-drag-queen-story-hour/

If you call the normalization of mental illnesses freedom, then sure. Gender dysphoria is contagious among certain segments of the population, so I have a hard time believing that it’s normal and healthy to believe you’re in the wrong body. What happened to telling people to be happy with their body and the way they are?

Though comment sections rarely offer anything edifying, I found this comment from your linked article quite agreeable:

The truth is likely somewhere in between. It is misguided to assume that ‘ALL individuals who experience gender dysphoria are born that way’, or that ‘ALL individuals who experience gender dysphoria are confused’. When you start contemplating ALL or NOTHING statements in social or psychological research, you are probably wrong.

It is important that we clarify these issues and determine how best to approach gender dysphoria in these young populations. I could not even imagine the potential regret or harm that young individuals might experience by making decisions at a young age that will impact their entire lives. I absolutely support counselling that includes exploration of social and psychological issues as part of a complete treatment plan. It’s important not to be narrow-minded.

You went into the comments section on an Internet news site and not only came out unscathed, but having found a thoughtful and cogent analysis in there.

I am now considering starting a religion worshipping you, but I’d like to know your opinion on ritual flagellation before I get too far down that road.

If it feels good, do it. Otherwise, buy my miracle spring water instead.

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DuracellEnergizer said:

CatBus said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

RicOlie_2 said:

moviefreakedmind said:

Another example of Christian opposition to freedom:

https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2018/09/anti-lgbtq-protesters-swarmed-library-protest-drag-queen-story-hour/

If you call the normalization of mental illnesses freedom, then sure. Gender dysphoria is contagious among certain segments of the population, so I have a hard time believing that it’s normal and healthy to believe you’re in the wrong body. What happened to telling people to be happy with their body and the way they are?

Though comment sections rarely offer anything edifying, I found this comment from your linked article quite agreeable:

The truth is likely somewhere in between. It is misguided to assume that ‘ALL individuals who experience gender dysphoria are born that way’, or that ‘ALL individuals who experience gender dysphoria are confused’. When you start contemplating ALL or NOTHING statements in social or psychological research, you are probably wrong.

It is important that we clarify these issues and determine how best to approach gender dysphoria in these young populations. I could not even imagine the potential regret or harm that young individuals might experience by making decisions at a young age that will impact their entire lives. I absolutely support counselling that includes exploration of social and psychological issues as part of a complete treatment plan. It’s important not to be narrow-minded.

You went into the comments section on an Internet news site and not only came out unscathed, but having found a thoughtful and cogent analysis in there.

I am now considering starting a religion worshipping you, but I’d like to know your opinion on ritual flagellation before I get too far down that road.

If it feels good, do it. Otherwise, buy my miracle spring water instead.

Any restrictions about shellfish?

Any prohibition on pineapple on a pizza?

Joe versus the Volcano. Thumbs up or down?

Play your cards right and you get a shrine dedicated to you, made out of toothpaste, this very night.

Project Threepio (Star Wars OOT subtitles)

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CatBus said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

CatBus said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

RicOlie_2 said:

moviefreakedmind said:

Another example of Christian opposition to freedom:

https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2018/09/anti-lgbtq-protesters-swarmed-library-protest-drag-queen-story-hour/

If you call the normalization of mental illnesses freedom, then sure. Gender dysphoria is contagious among certain segments of the population, so I have a hard time believing that it’s normal and healthy to believe you’re in the wrong body. What happened to telling people to be happy with their body and the way they are?

Though comment sections rarely offer anything edifying, I found this comment from your linked article quite agreeable:

The truth is likely somewhere in between. It is misguided to assume that ‘ALL individuals who experience gender dysphoria are born that way’, or that ‘ALL individuals who experience gender dysphoria are confused’. When you start contemplating ALL or NOTHING statements in social or psychological research, you are probably wrong.

It is important that we clarify these issues and determine how best to approach gender dysphoria in these young populations. I could not even imagine the potential regret or harm that young individuals might experience by making decisions at a young age that will impact their entire lives. I absolutely support counselling that includes exploration of social and psychological issues as part of a complete treatment plan. It’s important not to be narrow-minded.

You went into the comments section on an Internet news site and not only came out unscathed, but having found a thoughtful and cogent analysis in there.

I am now considering starting a religion worshipping you, but I’d like to know your opinion on ritual flagellation before I get too far down that road.

If it feels good, do it. Otherwise, buy my miracle spring water instead.

Any restrictions about shellfish?

Never eat any in the presence of prawn aliens.

Any prohibition on pineapple on a pizza?

If I looks like you’re eating a wedge of pineapple, there’s something amiss.

Joe versus the Volcano. Thumbs up or down?

Haven’t seen it.

Play your cards right and you get a shrine dedicated to you, made out of toothpaste, this very night.

It had better be multicoloured toothpaste.

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DuracellEnergizer said:

CatBus said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

CatBus said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

RicOlie_2 said:

moviefreakedmind said:

Another example of Christian opposition to freedom:

https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2018/09/anti-lgbtq-protesters-swarmed-library-protest-drag-queen-story-hour/

If you call the normalization of mental illnesses freedom, then sure. Gender dysphoria is contagious among certain segments of the population, so I have a hard time believing that it’s normal and healthy to believe you’re in the wrong body. What happened to telling people to be happy with their body and the way they are?

Though comment sections rarely offer anything edifying, I found this comment from your linked article quite agreeable:

The truth is likely somewhere in between. It is misguided to assume that ‘ALL individuals who experience gender dysphoria are born that way’, or that ‘ALL individuals who experience gender dysphoria are confused’. When you start contemplating ALL or NOTHING statements in social or psychological research, you are probably wrong.

It is important that we clarify these issues and determine how best to approach gender dysphoria in these young populations. I could not even imagine the potential regret or harm that young individuals might experience by making decisions at a young age that will impact their entire lives. I absolutely support counselling that includes exploration of social and psychological issues as part of a complete treatment plan. It’s important not to be narrow-minded.

You went into the comments section on an Internet news site and not only came out unscathed, but having found a thoughtful and cogent analysis in there.

I am now considering starting a religion worshipping you, but I’d like to know your opinion on ritual flagellation before I get too far down that road.

If it feels good, do it. Otherwise, buy my miracle spring water instead.

Any restrictions about shellfish?

Never eat any in the presence of prawn aliens.

Any prohibition on pineapple on a pizza?

If I looks like you’re eating a wedge of pineapple, there’s something amiss.

Joe versus the Volcano. Thumbs up or down?

Haven’t seen it.

Play your cards right and you get a shrine dedicated to you, made out of toothpaste, this very night.

It had better be multicoloured toothpaste.

Mine wasn’t, but my kid’s was. Your first shrine smells like bubblegum.

Project Threepio (Star Wars OOT subtitles)

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RicOlie_2 said:

moviefreakedmind said:

Another example of Christian opposition to freedom:

https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2018/09/anti-lgbtq-protesters-swarmed-library-protest-drag-queen-story-hour/

If you call the normalization of mental illnesses freedom, then sure. Gender dysphoria is contagious among certain segments of the population, so I have a hard time believing that it’s normal and healthy to believe you’re in the wrong body. What happened to telling people to be happy with their body and the way they are?

^this is the biggest bunch of bullshit I have ever heard ,it’s akin to a lot of narrow minded midwest evangelicals saying " Oh no ! he caught the gay "! or " have you tried NOT being gay "? nomalization my ass

https://screamsinthevoid.deviantart.com/

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RicOlie_2 said:

moviefreakedmind said:

Another example of Christian opposition to freedom:

https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2018/09/anti-lgbtq-protesters-swarmed-library-protest-drag-queen-story-hour/

If you call the normalization of mental illnesses freedom, then sure. Gender dysphoria is contagious among certain segments of the population, so I have a hard time believing that it’s normal and healthy to believe you’re in the wrong body. What happened to telling people to be happy with their body and the way they are?

Oh, buddy… Are you sure you want to have this conversation with me? We’re going to have this conversation. ROGD is a sham based upon a faulty study that was quickly rescinded. In particular, it only ever surveyed the parents of the teens, who have met on a “support forum.” In this context, of course it seemed sudden; teens are notorious for hiding things from their parents, especially if they believe the parents would be unnaccepting of it.

If you asked the teens themselves, they’re going to give you a far different answer. Probably something along the lines of, “It felt like something was off about me for the longest time, but it wasn’t until I met other people like me that I began to piece it all together and accept it.” It’s not that these teens are “catching the Trans,” it’s that they’re starting to meet others and not feel so alone about it.

JEDIT: Oh, and I missed that you typed that out in response to people protesting drag queens. Drag. Queens. Believe it or not, Drag performers are not trans people. Well, not inherently. There are definitely trans people who either enjoy drag, or use it to explore their own feelings of themselves. However, just as many, if not more drag performers are cisgender, and just use drag as a performative art.

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I want to bring something up from a long time ago, when Catbus (who I usually agree with) said that religion was ultimately a net positive. Well, I hope you can look at this discussion and realize that if you’re one of the people that the religion deems an abomination, then religion is far from a net positive. Unless you say religion is good in spite of its negative effect on them. This lie that LGBT people are mentally ill is just one of the many reasons why everybody should condemn this kind of religiosity.

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moviefreakedmind said:

This lie that LGBT people are mentally ill is just one of the many reasons why everybody should condemn this kind of religiosity.

I know I do. I just don’t conflate it with religiosity in toto.

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Not all religiosity will result in hatred of LGBT people specifically, but having that kind of devotion to an all-powerful character makes it easy to demonize the other, whoever that may be.

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moviefreakedmind said:

I want to bring something up from a long time ago, when Catbus…

Yep, it was me.

Well, I hope you can look at this discussion and realize that if you’re one of the people that the religion deems an abomination, then religion is far from a net positive.

You’re a real glass-is-half-enpty kinda guy, aren’t you? No, I get what you’re saying.

Let’s say Religion X unambiguously deems Group Y an abomination. That means Religion X is pretty unlikely to be a net positive, as you say. That’s a very different thing than saying religion in general is not a net positive. But don’t all religions have defined outcast groups? Depends on how you define the religion. Just using our existing example of the LGBTQ community and Christianity, which Christian church do you mean? There are plenty of Christian churches that are very accepting of the LGBTQ community, and see no conflict with their faith.

IMO these outcast groups, hateful actions, Crusades, and whatnot, have more to say about the biases of that religion’s practitioners than the biases of the religion itself. Long story short, you can lead a bigot to Jesus, but he’s still a bigot*.

Certainly you can look to the Soviet Union for some pretty unflattering examples of what happens when people with inherent biases act on them in the name of atheism.

So maybe you’d partially agree with me here: I may think religion is a net positive, but I’m far less convinced about humanity itself.

* Bumper stickers on sale now.

Project Threepio (Star Wars OOT subtitles)

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I don’t see religion as an overall net positive or negative. It simply is, for better or worse.

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suspiciouscoffee said:

I don’t see religion as an overall net positive or negative. It simply is, for better or worse.

That’s pretty much how I feel, too. Thoughts and feelings regarding religion and the church tend to be more individualistic, rather than seeing it as a monolithic entity. I’ve met chill religious folk, and I’ve met radicals. Heck, I’ve met both groups from within the same sect.