Religion — Page 108

TV’s Frink said:

chyron you were supposedly so desperate for legitimate discussion that you couldn’t stop complaining about me, are you going to ever actually answer the legitimate questions I posed?

I will wait for someone else (who believes) to reply and perhaps add my opinion in response to what they said. I don’t want to be responsible for giving people the opportunity to shoot me down outright with regard to my answer, especially when I’m not even sure the question is genuine.

Also, my opinion about it is not concrete.

chyron8472 said:

moviefreakedmind said:

A better comparison would be if there was an American football thread (not an NFL thread) and someone asked questions about and complained about the dangers of football and the problems it causes and why they think it’s bad.

But again, after that point has been made, it doesn’t need to be endlessly revisited from every possible angle in such a way that devolves the tone of the discussion into a toxic mess with no foreseeable resolution.

The conversation hasn’t changed. Basically you’re desiring to only have conversations in this thread without the non-believer perspective. I’m curious how you’d respond if a devout Scientologist voiced his criticism of Christianity in this thread.

moviefreakedmind said:

chyron8472 said:

moviefreakedmind said:

A better comparison would be if there was an American football thread (not an NFL thread) and someone asked questions about and complained about the dangers of football and the problems it causes and why they think it’s bad.

But again, after that point has been made, it doesn’t need to be endlessly revisited from every possible angle in such a way that devolves the tone of the discussion into a toxic mess with no foreseeable resolution.

I’m curious how you’d respond if a devout Scientologist voiced his criticism of Christianity in this thread.

I would be more interested in the Scientologist saying what he himself believed, rather than him telling me why my belief is ridiculous.

ChainsawAsh said:

TV’s Frink said:

Ok I’ll add something new.

Since I’m going to hell, what exactly does that mean? Is it the traditional hell with fire and brimstone and my soul is tortured by eating all the donuts forever? What’s the actual punishment for not believing Jesus was more than a good dude?

I’m actually interested in an answer to this from the believers in here.

It’s never been answered on this forum in my time here. I’m guessing that it hasn’t been answered since the creation of the thread.

chyron8472 said:

moviefreakedmind said:

chyron8472 said:

moviefreakedmind said:

A better comparison would be if there was an American football thread (not an NFL thread) and someone asked questions about and complained about the dangers of football and the problems it causes and why they think it’s bad.

But again, after that point has been made, it doesn’t need to be endlessly revisited from every possible angle in such a way that devolves the tone of the discussion into a toxic mess with no foreseeable resolution.

I’m curious how you’d respond if a devout Scientologist voiced his criticism of Christianity in this thread.

I would be more interested in the Scientologist saying what he himself believed, rather than him telling me why my belief is ridiculous.

But he’d, according to you, have a more vested interest in going against what he’d consider a false religion.

TV’s Frink said:

chyron8472 said:

TV’s Frink said:

chyron you were supposedly so desperate for legitimate discussion that you couldn’t stop complaining about me, are you going to ever actually answer the legitimate questions I posed?

I will wait for someone else (who believes) to reply and perhaps add my opinion in response to what they said. I don’t want to be responsible for giving people the opportunity to shoot me down outright with regard to my answer, especially when I’m not even sure the question is genuine.

This response makes your earlier complaints ring quite hollow.

No. 1) I’m not convinced you aren’t trying to stir things up, 2) I’m not concrete on the subject, and 3) it’s not a topic I favor.

moviefreakedmind said:

chyron8472 said:

moviefreakedmind said:

chyron8472 said:

moviefreakedmind said:

A better comparison would be if there was an American football thread (not an NFL thread) and someone asked questions about and complained about the dangers of football and the problems it causes and why they think it’s bad.

But again, after that point has been made, it doesn’t need to be endlessly revisited from every possible angle in such a way that devolves the tone of the discussion into a toxic mess with no foreseeable resolution.

I’m curious how you’d respond if a devout Scientologist voiced his criticism of Christianity in this thread.

I would be more interested in the Scientologist saying what he himself believed, rather than him telling me why my belief is ridiculous.

But he’d, according to you, have a more vested interest in going against what he’d consider a false religion.

I said that? What I said was, effectively, if someone here was a Muslim, I’d be interested in them talking about what that means to them or in general. And not just minor questions like when did they convert, but deeper things like the nature of God or the universe, or what He’s taught them about themselves, or what certain passages speak to them. I would not be interested in them telling me at length how Christianity is the infidel.

My interest is to limit toxicity, not dissenting opinion.

chyron8472 said:

TV’s Frink said:

chyron8472 said:

TV’s Frink said:

chyron you were supposedly so desperate for legitimate discussion that you couldn’t stop complaining about me, are you going to ever actually answer the legitimate questions I posed?

I will wait for someone else (who believes) to reply and perhaps add my opinion in response to what they said. I don’t want to be responsible for giving people the opportunity to shoot me down outright with regard to my answer, especially when I’m not even sure the question is genuine.

This response makes your earlier complaints ring quite hollow.

No. 1) I’m not convinced you aren’t trying to stir things up, 2) I’m not concrete on the subject, and 3) it’s not a topic I favor.

I thought we did discuss this topic not long ago. Are we looking for something more conclusive? Or just chyron’s personal and incomplete (as he suggests) view?

I think oojason is close to the truth. And if Frink wants donuts I’m sure they’ll put in an order for him.

TV’s Frink said:

chyron8472 said:

TV’s Frink said:

chyron8472 said:

TV’s Frink said:

chyron you were supposedly so desperate for legitimate discussion that you couldn’t stop complaining about me, are you going to ever actually answer the legitimate questions I posed?

I will wait for someone else (who believes) to reply and perhaps add my opinion in response to what they said. I don’t want to be responsible for giving people the opportunity to shoot me down outright with regard to my answer, especially when I’m not even sure the question is genuine.

This response makes your earlier complaints ring quite hollow.

No. 1) I’m not convinced you aren’t trying to stir things up, 2) I’m not concrete on the subject, and 3) it’s not a topic I favor.

1. Then ignore me (try it some time, you might like it!) and answer Ash.
2. So take your best guess then. What does your religion teach about it? What you do think is likely?
3. Lol.

Why are you waiting specifically on me to answer?

Mrebo said:

chyron8472 said:

TV’s Frink said:

chyron8472 said:

TV’s Frink said:

chyron you were supposedly so desperate for legitimate discussion that you couldn’t stop complaining about me, are you going to ever actually answer the legitimate questions I posed?

I will wait for someone else (who believes) to reply and perhaps add my opinion in response to what they said. I don’t want to be responsible for giving people the opportunity to shoot me down outright with regard to my answer, especially when I’m not even sure the question is genuine.

This response makes your earlier complaints ring quite hollow.

No. 1) I’m not convinced you aren’t trying to stir things up, 2) I’m not concrete on the subject, and 3) it’s not a topic I favor.

I thought we did discuss this topic not long ago.

We did.

TV’s Frink said:

Mrebo said:

chyron8472 said:

TV’s Frink said:

chyron8472 said:

TV’s Frink said:

chyron you were supposedly so desperate for legitimate discussion that you couldn’t stop complaining about me, are you going to ever actually answer the legitimate questions I posed?

I will wait for someone else (who believes) to reply and perhaps add my opinion in response to what they said. I don’t want to be responsible for giving people the opportunity to shoot me down outright with regard to my answer, especially when I’m not even sure the question is genuine.

This response makes your earlier complaints ring quite hollow.

No. 1) I’m not convinced you aren’t trying to stir things up, 2) I’m not concrete on the subject, and 3) it’s not a topic I favor.

I thought we did discuss this topic not long ago.

Refresh my memory.

Try rebooting, I’m not motivated to trawl.

I will answer you, Ash, but again, I’m waiting. It’s a really involved and controversial question, and I’m not really comfortable jumping down the rabbit hole by myself.

chyron8472 said:

I will answer you, Ash,

Awesome.

but again, I’m waiting. It’s a really involved and controversial question, and I’m not really comfortable jumping down the rabbit hole by myself.

Oh.

TV’s Frink said:

Mrebo said:

TV’s Frink said:

Mrebo said:

chyron8472 said:

TV’s Frink said:

chyron8472 said:

TV’s Frink said:

chyron you were supposedly so desperate for legitimate discussion that you couldn’t stop complaining about me, are you going to ever actually answer the legitimate questions I posed?

I will wait for someone else (who believes) to reply and perhaps add my opinion in response to what they said. I don’t want to be responsible for giving people the opportunity to shoot me down outright with regard to my answer, especially when I’m not even sure the question is genuine.

This response makes your earlier complaints ring quite hollow.

No. 1) I’m not convinced you aren’t trying to stir things up, 2) I’m not concrete on the subject, and 3) it’s not a topic I favor.

I thought we did discuss this topic not long ago.

Refresh my memory.

Try rebooting, I’m not motivated to trawl.

Ok so that’s two people that have no interest in an actual discussion. Is there anyone else that would like to answer, or just go back to telling me I’m the one not contributing to the thread?

I referenced a previous discussion, don’t remember how many posts it went on for, and don’t recall sufficiently to provide you with a summary, if that’s what you’re looking for. And I’m not motivated to go looking for it. Me doing legwork for you doesn’t constitute a discussion.

I thought you were part of that previous discussion but again I can’t recall it that well.

TV’s Frink said:

Mrebo said:

TV’s Frink said:

Mrebo said:

TV’s Frink said:

Mrebo said:

chyron8472 said:

TV’s Frink said:

chyron8472 said:

TV’s Frink said:

chyron you were supposedly so desperate for legitimate discussion that you couldn’t stop complaining about me, are you going to ever actually answer the legitimate questions I posed?

I will wait for someone else (who believes) to reply and perhaps add my opinion in response to what they said. I don’t want to be responsible for giving people the opportunity to shoot me down outright with regard to my answer, especially when I’m not even sure the question is genuine.

This response makes your earlier complaints ring quite hollow.

No. 1) I’m not convinced you aren’t trying to stir things up, 2) I’m not concrete on the subject, and 3) it’s not a topic I favor.

I thought we did discuss this topic not long ago.

Refresh my memory.

Try rebooting, I’m not motivated to trawl.

Ok so that’s two people that have no interest in an actual discussion. Is there anyone else that would like to answer, or just go back to telling me I’m the one not contributing to the thread?

I referenced a previous discussion, don’t remember how many posts it went on for, and don’t recall sufficiently to provide you with a summary, if that’s what you’re looking for. And I’m not motivated to go looking for it. Me doing legwork for you doesn’t constitute a discussion.

I thought you were part of that previous discussion but again I can’t recall it that well.

I don’t care what the previous discussion was, I don’t remember it. I’m not asking for a summary of the previous discussion, I’m asking for answers to my questions, and all I’m getting is two people dodging it.

I’m not dodging. You got your teeth in this and chyron doesn’t want to answer and I say, didn’t we just discuss this?

You didn’t answer my question of what kind of answer you want? Something conclusive? chyron’s (or my) personal view? The Biblical take?

If you want my view, I don’t really know either but the description of a separation from God or perhaps ceasing to exist make sense to my mind.