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Rebooting the Prequel Trilogy

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hate the prequel trilogy so much I do not consider the prequel trilogy canon. I will not have anything do with anything that has to with the prequel trilogy. The only way i will acknowledge the prequel trilogy is if it is rebooted which will only happen after Lucas dies.

I think a big problem with the prequel trilogy was nobody challenged Lucas thing he wanted to put in the prequel trilogy. I would have challenged Lucas and told him why some that he want to put in the trilogy is stupid.

Here is a young Lucas told about about spending time on the setting. I guess he forget about what he said when he was younger. http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/de8233c26f/george-lucas-on-special-effects

I agree with you about how Padame dying a of broken heart even though she had children sucked.  Dying of a broken heart is a real thing.  The prequel trilogy made what Luke asked about Leia’s real mother in ROTJ a lie.

The statement at the end of this paragraph should be the only way the force works.. The midichlorians were only used in my mind to show how powerful Anakin was is all. “Well the Force is what gives a Jedi his power. It’s an energy field created by all living things. It surrounds us and penetrates us; it binds the galaxy together.”

I would have love to have seen Lucas done like he did in ESB and not directed the prequel trilogy. I read that Lucas if I am right even admit he is a terrible director. He also need to have had constructive criticism of what he was doing with the prequel trilogy. In the original Star Wars, his only directions were “faster” or “more intense. ” Fisher later recalled, was: “Terrific, let’s do it again,” and, “Faster and more intense

Darth Maul could have used better then he was in the prequel trilogy. Lucas could have made him be Sideous’s apprentice through the prequel trilogy and made him a very good bad guy.

I would have like it if Ankain was an adult in in the first movie reboot of the prequel trilogy and shown as good starpilot and cunning warrior before Obi-wan meet him in TPM.  I was disappointed that the prequel trilogy did not sure more of Anakin's good skill as a starpilot. I never wanted to see Anakin as a child since what Obi-Wan said about him episode IV.  Having Anakin being an aduklt would make Anakin fall in love with Padame less creepy in my mind.  In a reboot of the prequel trilogy Anakin would not be a messiah figure.  Anakin in the reboot would show was he was such a powerful Jedi.  He would be shown in the reboot of the prequel trilogy use more of the force instead of use the force to stop Obi-Wan and move a piece of fruit.  I would have love to see Anakin being  actually train as Jedi like how Yoda trained Luke.

I wish we could have seen Darth Vader in the prequel trilogy hunt down kill Jedi instead showing the Clonetroopers killing the Jedi. I do not care if the version of Darth Vader that was hunting down and killing the Jedi was Vader before getting the suit or after getting the suit. I was really interested in seeing Darth Vader slay Jedi not younglings. if Darth Maul had survived to ROTS you could have had Darth Maul killing the younglings instead.

I another thing you could look at about what is wrong with the prequel trilogy is the Red Letter Media take on the prequel trilogy.

I did not like how Anakin feel to the dark side to save his wife. I also felt Anakin’s fall to the dark side was to quick.

We never got see Obi-wan serve Bail Organa during the Clone Wars. That makes what Leia said about Obi-wan serving her father during the Clones Wars on the recording a lie.

Obi-Wan should have never been around Leia when was born which make him not knowing about Leia being other option had Luke failed

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It was supposed to be tragic but there was nothing tragic about it.  Plot wise, it works but i think the plot was fleshed out into a completely bad direction.  The execution was lousy.

I would have had Anakin leave home because he knows he is an abomination of the Force and a danger to his own family.  Nobody helps him or guides him along which hardens him and makes him bitter.  He encounters a glimmer of hope later in his young adulthood in the form of Ben Kenobi.  They share many adventures and he finally feels he has a course in his life.  Ben makes some kind of mistake which wounds Anakin's psyche.  He feels betrayed and becomes susceptible to the Emperor.    The last film should be about him as Vader heading a genocide against the Jedi.  In many ways this is basically what Lucas put on paper and it had much promise IMO.

 

Also, no magic or flying around by Jedi.  That stuff was ridiculous.  Saber duels should be brief like I imagine Samurai fights to be.  A determined clash with no long drawn out sword parrys or acrobatics.  And only modest force powers.

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It has made it up to four posts.  I've seen worse.

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People were afraid, you know, of the haunting.

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Lucas knew he was making the story up as he went but created a false mythology for fan worship that he had the whole 3 trilogies in his head since day one.

Then it became only six movies about the story of darth vader now made false because of sequel trilogy.

He could have just admitted having no omniscience over star wars but his godhood status would have been threatened for this self made star wars cult in which Lucas oversaw and created everything.

He once did claim it was all a collaborative thing and gave thanks to the others involved as late as receiving the Irving Thalberg award.

On the prequels i don't think he wanted to be challenged and brought in a whole new team to oversee his vision.  From the young indy series. except of course he still had Dennis Muren and Ben Burtt from the original series.

He also brought back John Williams, and Tony Daniels to voice C-3PO.

Okay so he brought back a handful of the original players in the OOT.  But none of the writers or directors, producers/cinematographers.

“Always loved Vader’s wordless self sacrifice. Another shitty, clueless, revision like Greedo and young Anakin’s ghost. What a fucking shame.” -Simon Pegg.

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Firstly, the whole idea of a chosen one would have thrown in the bin. Anakin would've been a proper slave and not someone who helps out in a shop. Also, he would be in his early teens when we first meet him. His mother AND father would've been killed by the Tuskans when he was very young so he would be truly on his own. And he harbours a lot of anger because of that. Qui Gon would not have been a character (he was pointless) it would've been Obi wan that discovered him. Hmm what else? Maul would've survived until Sith and Anakin would've been the one to kill him, witnessed by Palpatine. No midi chlorians and Gungans (goes without saying) The Clones would've been the enemy and not the droids. The Republic army would've been created through conscripts (real people) I'm not gonna rewrite the whole trilogy here, but these are some of the ideas I personally think would've made the PT a lot better.

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It might have been fun for Anakin to have just been a bloke working in a shop but not a slave.

Having him called a slave but live better than most kids I know was bobbins.

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Frankly I don't think I would have made Anakin a slave at all.  I'd probably have cut closer to the cloth that Obi-wan weaved in ANH.  I believe I'd likely have Obi-wan serve as the main character who simply stumbles upon an incredibly talented pilot, who perhaps had special but latent gifts with the Force that aided his abilities.  Obi-wan would recognize his gifts and take him under his wing, where Anakin would then blossom.  No Tatooine, no slavery, no dying mother.  I'm okay with the hidden love, but the romance would need to be far more believable and interesting.  Anakin should be far more charismatic.  In the novelization of Ep. III, he's actually quite well known throughout the Republic, and I think his apparent death should have been a huge morale killer for the Republic.

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I don't think it's that bad that George Lucas didn't have everything in every movie planned out when he finished the first one. I don't think it would be that bad if Gene Rodenberry didn't have Star Trek TNG, DS9, Voyager, and Enterprise planned out 20+ years ahead of time.

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I have to say that, as a moderate fan of the PT, I wish that the whole concept of the clones had played out differently.  Now you may know I am a fan of TCW and see it as the redemption of the PT, but I can't help but feel like this should have been handled differently.

First, I would never have made droids such effective fighters.  Why would any army utilize organic soldiers when droids would be cheaper and ultimately more powerful?  A droid requires no eating, no sleeping, only recharging (which is cheap).  A droid could be programmed in a very short time and then would be ready for battle.  A droid could be outfitted with multiple appendages, could be programmed with superior reflexes, dexterity, strength, and precision in attack and firing (not demonstrated on screen, but if taken to a logical conclusion), and could receive regular software and hardware upgrades.  A droid could continue fighting in spite of injury, would not experience fear, could communicate internally with numerous other units simultaneously to coordinate efforts, and could be provided with additional sensory equipment.

Meanwhile, clones take feeding, training (even with some imprinted instincts or whatever, the human brain still requires adjustment to unfamiliar physical maneuvers), entertainment, sleep.  All clones are physically the same, and cannot be largely improved (i.e. no extra arms).  The human brain, for all its creativity, is very limited by fear, imperfect calculation, normal human senses, etc.  The technology to create them is newer and definitely costlier to create them.  Clones are weaker and more expensive!

I understand the theory that sentient beings are more clever and innovative, thus offering an advantage, but I can hardly believe that such would offset the disadvantages.  George Lucas would have done better to make sentient beings the primary fighting force as they are in the OT.  Viewers would continue to assume that the technology to make an effective automaton army was simply not existent, as they always had.

Second, clones raise big moral issues.  Bingowings has argued very interestingly about the morals of subjugating sentient artificial intelligences.  But while the morality of that remains debatable, I find no gray area on creating new life forms for the sole purpose of sending them to fight and die against a military comprised entirely of robots.  They get no opportunity to choose their path, have no hope for a better future.  They are literal slaves to the "noble" Republic.  Who raises this issue during the films?  No one.  The wonderful and good Jedi do not hesitate to immediately make use of them, and the people of the Republic approve of their purpose.  Obi-wan never seems to feel bad about it (though in the novel he seems horrified when he first hears about them...for a few moments).  Yoda himself brings them to Geonosis.  And the Republic never attempts to create an army of machines to counter: rather they continue to waste life and money while simply draining the Separatists' population remains largely uninvolved.

I would never have involved robot armies.  I wouldn't mind seeing a few AI assassins or special units, but never entire armies.  I would rather have seen clones being used by the bad guys, or perhaps clones being used on both sides with an acknowledgement that such abuse was a portion of the atrocities committed on both sides of the war(s).  Its lasting moral implications still would permeate to the time of ANH, obviously.  I would have also included normal divisions so that the general population would feel the effects of the war, seeing their loved ones go off to die.  Instead, the war must have been very depersonalized for most people on both sides, as nobody they cared about ever went off to fight except a few in leadership positions.  And since they were called the Clone Wars (plural), it might have been nice to see ongoing fighting interrupted by brief intermissions of peace.  To me, the Clone Wars would have been much more interesting, realistic, and less morally ambiguous if shown like this.

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Droids could be more expensive in some ways, there's the cost of construction, maintance, fluids. I don't know how much that would add up to, but it's something to consider.

 

I don't think Lucas could have left out the clones without leaving loose ends. The clone wars were mentioned in the OT.

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Just think how much money you spend maintaining your car vs. your own grocery bills, utilities, housing, and anything else.  And in the Star Wars galaxy, think how much they've improved their machines, making them far more energy efficient.  I'm sure they require upkeep, but I find it hard to believe they need as much as an actual human.

And I am glad for the inclusion of clones; I really wanted to see the clones too.  I would have just done it differently.