Ranking the Star Wars films — Page 72

imperialscum said:

Lord Haseo said:

imperialscum said:

Lord Haseo said:

I can defend TFA

Defending bad film does not make it any less bad. You are just defending your liking of bad things, which is unnecessary since no one was attacking it.

So by that logic building a solid argument for or against any film is meaningless because the quality of the film is completely separate.

The ability to argue is insignificant next to the power of the truth.

Seems like the truth should be easier to vocalize.

In fact you were the one attacking the guy for liking AOTC.

There was no attacking; I was merely being inquisitive.

I don’t think so. It was clearly a mockery:

Lord Haseo said:

Ryan-SWI said:

Lord Haseo said:

May I ask why you have AOTC so high and Rogue One so low?

It could be because they like AOTC more. Just a guess though.

That’s what I’m afraid of…

Against the movie sure but to him personally no. Plus other than you and Mala who I personally insult? Virtually no one as I only attack other people’s arguments.

imperialscum said:

You did not mock the film. You mocked his liking.

Which is because of the quality of the film and not his tastes in general. Regardless of how he would have responded I would have called the film terrible and scoffed at the thought that AOTC could possibly be on par with Rogue One.

Also if this is a personal insult then you have insulted me dozens of times for liking TFA so practice what you preach.

You’ve done A2 tons of times so you can get the fuck out of my face with that hypocritical bullshit.

Also “times” is plural. Just because you didn’t do it this times doesn’t negate all of the times you’ve taken shots ay me for liking TFA.

Here we go again…

You guys are just embarrassing yourselves with this childish behavior. Not to mention ruining the threads.

You’re right. With VIII on the horizon there are more important things to talk about than me finding someone’s opinion confusing and humorous.

• User comes onto a thread for creating their own personal, subjective list
• User does not post the “correct” list the hivemind deems acceptable to type
• User gets mocked for not posting the “correct” list
• User gets mocked for not posting the “correct” list by people who think TFA is the best thing since sliced bread
• Other users circlejerk in their obvious hilarity as they are clearly the only ones who know what makes a good film
• Other users don’t see the irony of what they’re doing

And the cycle goes on, and on, and on, and on, and on, and on, and on…

HINT: Deluding and ignoring flaws of the new films just because “OMG Stormtroopers and the Millennium Falcon!!1!1!!” while ragging on people for having the “wrong”, “bad taste” or “ill-informed” opinions is the most hypocritical thing this site has been doing since the end of 2015. Who cares if he thinks AOTC is better, not every person who has a different opinion needs to be shat on because, shock horror, you probably have ‘unpopular’ opinions too.

I think you can add “token PT fan complains that most people think PT is shite” to that list.

Regardless of where he put Rogue One, I find it strange that anyone would call AOTC the best of the PT.

skywalkerfan101 said:

Hah! I bet I’m the only one in this thread who picked Return Of The Jedi over The Empire Strikes Back. Am I sorry for it? Absolutely not!

Goddamn right you shouldn’t. Just because I don’t understand why you feel that way doesn’t mean you shouldn’t hold this position or that it should even affect you.

Ryan-SWI said:

• User comes onto a thread for creating their own personal, subjective list
• User does not post the “correct” list the hivemind deems acceptable to type
• User gets mocked for not posting the “correct” list
• User gets mocked for not posting the “correct” list by people who think TFA is the best thing since sliced bread
• Other users circlejerk in their obvious hilarity as they are clearly the only ones who know what makes a good film
• Other users don’t see the irony of what they’re doing

And the cycle goes on, and on, and on, and on, and on, and on, and on…

HINT: Deluding and ignoring flaws of the new films just because “OMG Stormtroopers and the Millennium Falcon!!1!1!!” while ragging on people for having the “wrong”, “bad taste” or “ill-informed” opinions is the most hypocritical thing this site has been doing since the end of 2015. Who cares if he thinks AOTC is better, not every person who has a different opinion needs to be shat on because, shock horror, you probably have ‘unpopular’ opinions too.

Pretty much all of this is wrong but if you want to be mad at my bewilderment then by all means.

“All of this is wrong” because it dares challenge the weird elitist mentality bubble going on here, yes I know.

It wouldn’t be an issue if people weren’t made fun of every. single. time. they dare deviate from the “correct” list.
What the hell is even the point of this thread if you’re not allowed to do what the title states?

We may as well lock the thread with a final post of “your opinion is wrong unless it’s ours” and call it a day.

Ryan-SWI said:

• User does not post the “correct” list the hivemind deems acceptable to type

I personally never said you shouldn’t the PT in your list. I just don’t understand why anyone would have it anywhere but at the bottom of the list.

• User gets mocked for not posting the “correct” list

I didn’t even get the chance because I was preemptively attacked because I was trying to ascertain as to why he/she put AOTC over Rogue One

• User gets mocked for not posting the “correct” list by people who think TFA is the best thing since sliced bread

I think Stranger Things is the best thing since sliced bread. Try to keep up.

• Other users circlejerk in their obvious hilarity as they are clearly the only ones who know what makes a good film

Wrong. The only person who acts that way around here is Impscum. Please provide evidence of me, Frink, Dominic etc. saying our opinions are factual or anything like that.

The rest is not even worth going into

Lord Haseo said:

Wrong. The only person who acts that way around here is Impscum. Please provide evidence of me, Frink, Dominic etc. saying our opinions are factual or anything like that.

It isn’t whether you say they are or not, it’s how you act towards any member who doesn’t like the same things you do.
And don’t hide behind the “I was just asking a question” nonsense, a passive aggressive remark like that is made any time anyone dares put one of the apparent “bad” films above one of the apparent “good” ones, and if they take the bait a three page argument ensues of about 3-4 people ragging on another over a movie.

Bullying anyone and everyone who likes a movie you don’t is the reason die-hard Star Wars fans get such a bad wrap. If the thread was specifically about hating/discussing one or more of the movies sure, but this is literally just a place to share your own personal list of your most to least favourite Star Wars films and maybe discuss it. But nobody can discuss it, because every single thread on this site needs to devolve into crap-flinging over someone liking a movie someone else doesn’t no matter how civil one side may be.

Or do you think asking another hundred people why they dare to like a prequel film will suddenly change the reason they do, or do you get some arrogant sense of self worth from it? There are a huge chunk of people that like the prequels. There are a huge chunk of people who don’t like the prequels. It truly does not matter, grow up.

I think TFA is garbage but I don’t have a meltdown anytime someone dares to say they like it, and challenge everyone who does. Some people like different things. Most people learned that in what, preschool?

imperialscum said:

Lord Haseo said:

Wrong. The only person who acts that way around here is Impscum. Please provide evidence of me, Frink, Dominic etc. saying our opinions are factual or anything like that.

Exhibit A: Equating personal opinion with objectivity (i.e. fact)

TV’s Frink said:

Anyone is allowed to like the prequels, doing so is just expressing one’s personal opinion. However, I firmly believe that anyone who doesn’t think they’re objectively poorly executed is either not paying attention or lying to themselves. That makes them bad.

Exhibit B: Equating a group of opinions with objectivity (i.e. fact)

DominicCobb said:

putting aside the fact that the large majority of people (in general, not just this site) say the prequels aren’t great, which isn’t evidence but is as good an objective indicator as you can get

But didn’t you know? Opinion and subjective anecdotes = fact!

Ryan-SWI said:

Lord Haseo said:

Wrong. The only person who acts that way around here is Impscum. Please provide evidence of me, Frink, Dominic etc. saying our opinions are factual or anything like that.

It isn’t whether you say they are or not, it’s how you act towards any member who doesn’t like the same things you do.
And don’t hide behind the “I was just asking a question” nonsense, a passive aggressive remark like that is made any time anyone dares put one of the apparent “bad” films above one of the apparent “good” ones, and if they take the bait a three page argument ensues of about 3-4 people ragging on another over a movie.

Like I said if anything if anything I would have have said the movie is terrible, laughed at some of the stranger points he made (IRL most likely) and said “you’re entitled to your opinion” to end the conversation. I might have just said “Oh” to whatever he said but I never got the chance. But please continue with your tirade as this has obviously been weighing on you. I’m sure you have some soul shattering observation or some venomous diatribe to spew at me and I’m more than willing to read them if you promise to make them interesting.

I think TFA is garbage but I don’t have a meltdown anytime someone dares to say they like it, and challenge everyone who does. Some people like different things. Most people learned that in what, preschool

Who here is doing that? No one here is even getting mad at someone’s attitude toward TFA. The only time we’ve ever gotten mad at someone for expressing negative views about TFA is when Impscum and Mala are spamming. Factoring that in makes you look mad sensitive.

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imperialscum said:

Lord Haseo said:

Ryan-SWI said:

• User does not post the “correct” list the hivemind deems acceptable to type

I personally never said you shouldn’t the PT in your list. I just don’t understand why anyone would have it anywhere but at the bottom of the list.

This is as stupid as not understanding why someone might like strawberry ice cream over chocolate ice cream. It is simply a matter of taste.

I don’t understand because I’m not that person. People’s taste buds and perceptions are sometime’s alien to others. One person’s sensible rationale could be seen as nonsense to another. There is too much complexity in people to see where everyone is coming from.

imperialscum said:
This is as stupid as not understanding why someone might like strawberry ice cream over chocolate ice cream. It is simply a matter of taste.

You forgot to add vanilla ice cream to the list of flavours that comprise the Neapolitan trio.

Ryan-SWI said:

HINT: Deluding and ignoring flaws of the new films just because “OMG Stormtroopers and the Millennium Falcon!!1!1!!”

Yeah I’ve not seen a single person do that here.