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The funny thing is this little debate about whether it’s possible for art to be objectively bad or not has an objective answer: It’s not.
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Star Wars ice cream analogies are objectively bad.
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Ranking the Star Wars films — Page 47
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Regarding objectivity in art: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNI07egoefc
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The funny thing is this little debate about whether it’s possible for art to be objectively bad or not has an objective answer: It’s not.
You must be a big fan of actual shit on a canvas. I’m sure you find it profound, inspiring, and beautiful.
How many do you own? And how do you handle the smell?
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The funny thing is this little debate about whether it’s possible for art to be objectively bad or not has an objective answer: It’s not.
You must be a big fan of actual shit on a canvas. I’m sure you find it profound, inspiring, and beautiful.
How many do you own? And how do you handle the smell?
None of these stupid analogies change anything. You’re missing the point entirely. It doesn’t matter what you or I think about it. Because art by its very definition is subjective and everyone has their own standards for judging its value, it is literally impossible to claim some art is objectively “better” than others. You can critique it all you want, argue about it, explain why according to your own standards you think it is good or bad, and that’s fine. But at the end of the day, no matter how well-supported and rational it may be, it is still your opinion. Not some kind of hard fact.
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it is literally impossible to claim some art is objectively “better” than others.
I don’t think you understand how the word “literally” works.
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Frink, if you insist on being wrong, I guess I will just have to respect that.
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The funny thing is this little debate about whether it’s possible for art to be objectively bad or not has an objective answer: It’s not.
You must be a big fan of actual shit on a canvas. I’m sure you find it profound, inspiring, and beautiful.
How many do you own? And how do you handle the smell?
None of these stupid analogies change anything. You’re missing the point entirely. It doesn’t matter what you or I think about it. Because art by its very definition is subjective and everyone has their own standards for judging its value, it is literally impossible to claim some art is objectively “better” than others. You can critique it all you want, argue about it, explain why according to your own standards you think it is good or bad, and that’s fine. But at the end of the day, no matter how well-supported and rational it may be, it is still your opinion. Not some kind of hard fact.
I don’t understand how Frink cannot get this through his head.
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It is literally possible to claim anything.
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Frink, if you insist on being wrong, I guess I will just have to respect that.
But is he subjectively or objectively wrong?
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Come on, everyone knows it is impossible to be wrong in this discussion. There is an art to arguing on the internet and therefore the whole discussion is subjective. I don’t understand how you cannot get this through your head.
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There are certain times where objectivity does apply to art. If I said that the Mona Lisa depicted a rat being eaten by a living piece of pasta, that would be objectively wrong.
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Come on, everyone knows it is impossible to be wrong in this discussion. There is an art to arguing on the internet and therefore the whole discussion is subjective. I don’t understand how you cannot get this through your head.
Okay. You are dismissed.
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THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS AN OBJECTIVELY BAD FILM
Just the same as:
THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS AN OBJECTIVELY BAD ICE CREAM FLAVOR
Flavor would be in comparison to a genre or style. I think an ice cream recipe would be a better comparison when speaking of a specific film.
I never thought of it that way 😃 Even better solidifies my point
Marmite flavour?
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There are certain times where objectivity does apply to art. If I said that the Mona Lisa depicted a rat being eaten by a living piece of pasta, that would be objectively wrong.
No. That’s called describing things. Same as stating that Tom Hanks stars in Forrest Gump. Whether you like his performance or not is subjective.
Do any of you in all honesty believe film is objective?
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Do any of you in all honesty believe film is objective?
Which film?
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I wonder when Star Wars is actually going to be talked about again…
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I wonder when Star Wars is actually going to be talked about again…
Which ones, the originals, the new one, or the objectively bad ones?
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I wonder when Star Wars is actually going to be talked about again…
Which ones, the originals, the new one, or the objectively bad ones?
Shit, I’m ready to talk about the Holiday Special if it’ll stop this whole “muh opinion” discussion. It’s so boring to read.
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Well alright…
The Holiday Special is objectively terrible.
Discuss.
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Well alright…
The Holiday Special is objectively terrible.
Discuss.
Case closed.
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The funny thing is this little debate about whether it’s possible for art to be objectively bad or not has an objective answer: It’s not.
And isn’t it ironic …
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Well alright…
The Holiday Special is objectively terrible.
Discuss.
Case closed.
WRONG.
If you want to know that truth, The Holiday Special is awesomely terrible.
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Unfortunately there is probably someone out there who likes it for whatever conjured up reason. I would love to see the reasoning for why they would like such a movie.
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Holiday Special > Prequels
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