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Raiders of the Lost Ark - 35 mm regrade (a WIP) — Page 10

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litemakr said:

Is there any need to get Crystal Skull scanned? Do the prints look any differnt than the blu-ray? It was color graded digitally, I doubt there is much, if any, difference.

Novelty.

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As in most cases with film, yes, The Crystal Skull will look different, without the DNR, and the color
timing.

It’s best to have the whole trilogy from film, the way it was meant to be. Otherwise, why would we be here.

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Here’s a preview of the look of the film trailer:

http://i.imgur.com/nKnmjFN.jpg

Here’s the actual trailer:

http://i.imgur.com/WI3LjOq.jpg

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Compare my new scan project Raiders of the Lost Ark (left - no color correction. Color its same like my film print) and Raiders of the Lost Ark 35mm LPP Theatrical Experience - v1.0 (right)

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Dagobah1 said:

Here’s the Crystal Skull trailer 35mm:
http://dai.ly/kRsHKFQK0LbPtOnh5Yz

This appears to have been removed.

“You don’t really mean you’ll kill me, do you?” - Juror 8
“Silence, Earthling! My name is Darth Vader. I am an extra-terrestrial from the planet Vulcan!” - Calvin “Marty” Klein

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Dagobah1 said:

Here’s the full comparison of the last part of the 16mm (top) vs 35mm (bottom):
http://dai.ly/kAKBVmvdr9zHatnh5xm

Everything depends on the color quality of the film print and film print material. We have mainly ORWO film material here. It will look different on any film material like Technicolor, Eastmancolor, Agfa, ORWO etc. It would also be best to get a negative film, which is probably impossible. How many movie copies of the print so many color irregularities. If you want to scan the positives of a movie it will never be as it should be. These are old movies.
When you watch at one film on 4 film print, each copy will have different colors. This video looks like the film was 35mm Technicolor what’s best for scanning a positive film.

Sorry my english I use google translator.

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don007 said:

Compare my new scan project Raiders of the Lost Ark (left - no color correction. Color its same like my film print) and Raiders of the Lost Ark 35mm LPP Theatrical Experience - v1.0 (right)

Your scan looks great!

[ Scanning stuff since 2015 ]

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RU.08 said:

don007 said:

Compare my new scan project Raiders of the Lost Ark (left - no color correction. Color its same like my film print) and Raiders of the Lost Ark 35mm LPP Theatrical Experience - v1.0 (right)

Your scan looks great!

Thanks 😃

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I think you made a great point - scanning positive film prints is not ideal, we’d dearly love to scan the original negative or interpostive which will never have a problem with black or white levels the way that film prints can have.

Out of question, what restoration software do you use?

[ Scanning stuff since 2015 ]

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RU.08 said:

I think you made a great point - scanning positive film prints is not ideal, we’d dearly love to scan the original negative or interpostive which will never have a problem with black or white levels the way that film prints can have.

Out of question, what restoration software do you use?

I use Davinci Resolve.

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don007 said:

Compare my new scan project Raiders of the Lost Ark (left - no color correction. Color its same like my film print) and Raiders of the Lost Ark 35mm LPP Theatrical Experience - v1.0 (right)

What is the origin of that print? What year? It looks waaay too warm compared to any print I have seen on super 8mm, 16mm or 35mm. Is it from 1981-82?

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litemakr said:

don007 said:

Compare my new scan project Raiders of the Lost Ark (left - no color correction. Color its same like my film print) and Raiders of the Lost Ark 35mm LPP Theatrical Experience - v1.0 (right)

What is the origin of that print? What year? It looks waaay too warm compared to any print I have seen on super 8mm, 16mm or 35mm. Is it from 1981-82?

Hi, material is ORWO and it is 1985. I have promised two more film copies so I will make a comparison but will also be on ORWO material.

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don007 said:

litemakr said:

don007 said:

Compare my new scan project Raiders of the Lost Ark (left - no color correction. Color its same like my film print) and Raiders of the Lost Ark 35mm LPP Theatrical Experience - v1.0 (right)

What is the origin of that print? What year? It looks waaay too warm compared to any print I have seen on super 8mm, 16mm or 35mm. Is it from 1981-82?

Hi, material is ORWO and it is 1985. I have promised two more film copies so I will make a comparison but will also be on ORWO material.

Thanks, I’m very curious to see those. I wonder if some timing changes were made for the 1985 prints, because it certainly looks more like home releases that came after the initial releases in 1981-1983. Do you have any screenshots from the ark opening sequence in reel 6? Would like to see how that looks on this print.

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Retro35 said:

35mm Telecine HD
https://streamable.com/vu9ko

That is a nice looking print! Can you tell us a little more about where it came from? What year is it? Is it ORWO film stock? Like I mentioned earlier in the thread, I strongly suspect that the color timing was slightly altered for the 1983 re-release and 1984 home video release. Spielberg said at the time he had certain sections brightened for the home video release and that would have been done photo-chemically back then and then the video master would be made from an interpositive. So if this is a 1985 print, it would be that version.