ROTJ is the best Star Wars film... discuss! — Page 11

I think if you return to the text and the author's stated intention you will find the Ewoks do slaughter the Imperials while the Rebels, when capable, fire some laser beams and get shot in the arm or robot (serves them right for not painting their robots green if you ask me).

Nothing too wrong with that if the Ewoks are a fierce warrior people and not slapstick comedy teddy bears capable of laying magic traps in a matter of moments under the full gaze of the troops that will be killed by them.

Jedi stinks.

The good moments it has are tied down by the stench of the sort of "It'll do", "It's only a movie", "It's for kids" mentality that would later lead to the worst prequel trilogy since... ever!

imperialscum said:

Ryan McAvoy said:

and yes as has ben said many times the Ewoks do not defeat the Emperor's best troops, the Rebels best troops do that. The Ewoks merely get massacred causing a diversion.

Precisely.

I'll reiterate what I said:

defeat of some of, what are supposed to be, the Empire's best forces

The main problem here, like Bingo said, is that the Ewoks are played for laughs. And then they start killing stormtroopers. I tell myself that it's really the Rebel troops doing all the heavy lifting in the battle when I watch the movie, but the sad part is the majority of the battle is devoted to showing the Ewoks.

I'd like to state again that I'm someone who loves ROTJ, despite it's flaws. But I am willing to admit that it does have flaws.

Bingowings said:

I think if you return to the text and the author's stated intention you will find the Ewoks do slaughter the Imperials while the Rebels, when capable, fire some laser beams and get shot in the arm or robot (serves them right for not painting their robots green if you ask me).

Nothing too wrong with that if the Ewoks are a fierce warrior people and not slapstick comedy teddy bears capable of laying magic traps in a matter of moments under the full gaze of the troops that will be killed by them.

Jedi stinks.

The good moments it has are tied down by the stench of the sort of "It'll do", "It's only a movie", "It's for kids" mentality that would later lead to the worst prequel trilogy since... ever!

QFT!

Saying that Ewoks are the same as Jawas is crazy. Jawas are mostly background entity that serves as a plot device for the droids to get from A to B. Ewoks are the reson the Alliance managed to defeat the Empire.

You guys arguing with impscum might be wise to remember a certain guy who insisted part two of a four part whatever was always the best no matter what.

It's part of how babies are made.

TV's Frink said:

You guys arguing with impscum might be wise to remember a certain guy who insisted part two of a four part whatever was always the best no matter what.

Hmm, what's a "four part whatever"?

DominicCobb said:

TV's Frink said:

You guys arguing with impscum might be wise to remember a certain guy who insisted part two of a four part whatever was always the best no matter what.

Hmm, what's a "four part whatever"?

Anything with four parts.

The point is that comparing Ewoks to Jawas is really silly, but good luck covincing this guy.

My motto on ROTJ:

-When you compare it to most 3rd movies of a franchise its pretty damn good. 

-When you compare it to Star Wars and Empire, and it is average at best. 

TV's Frink said:

DominicCobb said:

TV's Frink said:

You guys arguing with impscum might be wise to remember a certain guy who insisted part two of a four part whatever was always the best no matter what.

Hmm, what's a "four part whatever"?

Anything with four parts.

The point is that comparing Ewoks to Jawas is really silly, but good luck covincing this guy.

Eh, I think I'm done.

Better than Goldfinger, Quatermass and the Pit, Day of the Dead? Really?

The only reason it's better than the PT is because it has the original cast in it but most of the time they are just going through the motions.

The only interesting new thing in it is Palpatine and he is just as good/bad in the PT...

...oh and Jabba who looks better than he does in TPM, has more to do but but you can't really hang a whole film's success on what he does.

Return of the King. And there are 11 guys named Oscar who can back me up on this one

An argument could also be made for Toy Story 3, and a number of others including Last Crusade.

I humbly submit "spaceberg"...for something.

imperialscum said:

Wexter said:

Saying that Ewoks are the same as Jawas is crazy. Jawas are mostly background entity that serves as a plot device for the droids to get from A to B. Ewoks are the reson the Alliance managed to defeat the Empire.

Like Ewoks contributed to the destruction of DS2, so did Jawas contribute to the destruction of DS1. As I said earlier, if Jawas didn't pick up the two droids in the desert they would easily be spotted and captured by imps and the rebels would not get the plans. This is completely equivalent to Ewoks providing distraction for the rebels to blow up the bunker and eventually DS2.

Well, this is not "completely equivalent", since Ewoks voluntarily participated in a rather elaborate battle plan, while Jawas just collected two lost droids in a desert and tried to sell them for money, which is something they have been doing all their lives, R2 and 3PO or not.

Not gonna continue this discussion any longer, because I realize we are not going to agree on this, but I don't need this, I know I'm righ.

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