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RIP Rosa Parks.

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Rosa Parks dies at 92

Truely a brave woman. A hero to her people.

RIP


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To make things more clear I think Rosa Parks is a hero to all people everywhere, not just to people of her own race. I apologize for the poor wording. I have created this thread as a place for people to pay tribute to Rosa Parks. If you wish to criticize her or *insult, demean, belittle, rip, etc........ her, please do so else where. Thankyou.


*Please understand, that I do not mean to say that people have actually already insulted, demeaned, belittled, ripped, etc........ her, I just don't want them to start doing it here.
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lucas just donated money to the martin luther king memorial, both dr. king and rosa parks will be sorely missed they were a prime example of fine human beings.

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RIP...
“Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.” — Nazi Reich Marshal Hermann Goering
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RIP. There's still much to be done and we should all make sure we carry on what she started, working for a better, united future (and affirmative action is not the way - I'm talking about TRUE equality)

War does not make one great.

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Wow, I had no idea she was even still alive.

RIP, Mrs. Parks.

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I heard. Tis sad. Goodbye, Miss Parks. Rest In Peace.
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Maybe her passing away is will unite nations and races to world peace, well she lived a awsome life and is well respected around the globe.
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Originally posted by: sean wookie
Maybe her passing away is will unite nations and races to world peace, well she lived a awsome life and is well respected around the globe.


She is not very well known around the globe I think... I belive very few people here knew who she was.
“Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.” — Nazi Reich Marshal Hermann Goering
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click on the link I posted at the top of the screen to learn more about her Ric.
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I do know her. I said people here usually don't, I'm one of the few who do.
“Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.” — Nazi Reich Marshal Hermann Goering
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sorry, I got confused. I apologize.
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The pubilic viewing is really close to me should I go?
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Originally posted by: skyjedi2005
lucas just donated money to the martin luther king memorial, both dr. king and rosa parks will be sorely missed they were a prime example of fine human beings.


Now you see, this really bugs me. There's no reason to classify her as a "prime example of a fine human being." Did you hear about her law suit against Outkast because of their song? For someone who's only famous because she stood up (or in this case, sat down) for her constitutional rights, she sure seems hypocritical. Trying to go against Outkast's freedom of speech. It seems like her mind had achieved "Holier than thou" status.

And also, several other people had done what she did, before she did it. What about Homer Plessy, who sat in one of the "white" cars in an attempt to integrate the East Louisiana Railroad, years before Rosa Parks did anything? See, Parks just got lucky with her judge and jury. She just got lucky that she was the one who finally won the fight, even though many others had fought the same fight. Why should she be considered a "prime example of a fine human being" just because she got lucky, while hundreds of other people who did the same thing get overlooked?

She did one commemorable thing 50 years ago, and now for some reason lots of people put her on the same pedestal as George Washington or Mother Teresa, or like in your post, Martin Luther King. Those are prime human beings. And although Park's act was with out doubt brave, it wasn't something that should shoot her up to "prime human being" status. Millions of people every day commit brave acts, or commemorable acts, or amazing acts. Rosa Parks is no better than those people. She's not holy. She's not prime. She just did one brave thing, and got lucky. In fact, we're all equal, correct? So by you calling anyone a "prime example of a fine human being," you're placing humans in specified ranks. What exactly does one have to do to become a member of the "fine human being" club? What does someone have to do to become more excellent than someone else? Please give me some insight as to what the rules are. In the mean time, I disavow my former statement of George Washington, Mother Teresa and Martin Luther King being "prime" human beings, until we all agree on what makes someone else better than others.

I don't know why I'm pointing all this stuff out. Maybe I'm just a cynical jerk, or maybe I just want to remind you that "heroes" are humans too. And though I agree Rosa Parks may have been a butterfly that caused a hurricane, I still don't think she herself should be considered the hurricane. Keep in mind several other butterflies were flapping their wings as well.

Anyway, RIP. At least she died the best way possible. Peacefully in her sleep.
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Wow...

You know what, I hear what you're saying Mareel.

War does not make one great.

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To be honest, I was thinking something along similar lines, but I just didn't have the guts to actually say it.

So kudos to you, Jaster.

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C3PX said: Gaffer is like that hot girl in high school that you think you have a chance with even though she is way out of your league because she is sweet and not a stuck up bitch who pretends you don’t exist… then one day you spot her making out with some skinny twerp, only on second glance you realize it is the goth girl who always sits in the back of class; at that moment it dawns on you why she is never seen hanging off the arm of any of the jocks… and you realize, damn, she really is unobtainable after all. Not that that is going to stop you from dreaming… Only in this case, Gaffer is actually a guy.

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I could fight you on it, but what would be the point? You'd never listen.


DEAD THREAD
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You can't declare a thread dead, Warbler.

No one is trying to minimalize the importance of what Rosa Parks did, and what her action led to. And she has worked with civil rights since then as well. But you can't really compare her to someone like Martin Luther King who was constantly on the front lines fighting for equality. That's not to say that what she didn't end up being as monumental, but if you compare her actions to Dr. King... well, where as one is remembered for one action that got people's attention, the other is remembered for making a career out of it.

I think what she should most be remembered for is simply the remarkable power of one simple action to do something huge.

There is no lingerie in space…

C3PX said: Gaffer is like that hot girl in high school that you think you have a chance with even though she is way out of your league because she is sweet and not a stuck up bitch who pretends you don’t exist… then one day you spot her making out with some skinny twerp, only on second glance you realize it is the goth girl who always sits in the back of class; at that moment it dawns on you why she is never seen hanging off the arm of any of the jocks… and you realize, damn, she really is unobtainable after all. Not that that is going to stop you from dreaming… Only in this case, Gaffer is actually a guy.

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Originally posted by: Warbler


I could fight you on it, but what would be the point? You'd never listen.


DEAD THREAD

Okay, first of all, I'm not trying to "fight" you. Anyway, why do you assume that I won't listen to what you have to say? Have I given you any reason thus far that you could use to back that statement up? Also, if you really feel so strongly about it, why not just voice your opinion, regardless of who it will affect and who will listen? Think if Rosa Parks had the same mentality when she was on that bus. What if she hadn't taken a stand, because she just assumed it wouldn't change anything?

Now, let's take a look at your original post.

Originally posted by: Warbler
Rosa Parks dies at 92

Truely a brave woman. A hero to her people.

RIP


thoughts? comments?


I've highlighted the significant sentences. Let's start with the first one: You say that she's a hero to her people? It's ironic that you would feel the need to place black people into their own sect by classifying them as "her people," because by doing that you are going against what Rosa Parks stood for in the first place. If her act was truly so brave, then shouldn't she be a hero to ALL people? Shouldn't her action be considered an inspiration for everyone, instead of just "her people"?

But that was just a small thing that I wanted to point out. The main thing, the thing that really bothers me about your original post, is that you deliberately specified wanting to hear other people's thoughts and comments, but then as soon as someone says something that you don't necessarily agree with, all of a sudden it becomes a "DEAD TREAD." If you don't want to hear what other people are thinking, then you shouldn't ask them to tell you!
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*sigh* ok, didn't want to get in this but I will. I tried to end the thread for fear that Jaster Mareel's comments might start a flame war as can happen when talking about sensitive issues like race. I did not want a thread that I created to honor her lost, to turn into that. Now, I understand maybe her accomplishments may not be as great as MLK, but Jaster Mareel, how dare you say that she is not a prime example of a fine human? She stood up for her rights I wonder how many people would have had the guts to do what she did? For all she knew, she could have gotten lyched for what she did. Her actions jump started the civil rights moment. She most definitely is a fine example of a human being. As for why I said a hero to her people, I don't know. When I created this thread, it was late at night and I was tired. I wasn't being too careful with the wording I chose. Honestly I can't say why I chose the wording I chose. Maybe it was because I didn't want someone complaining saying "She not a hero to my people" and again have a flame war erupt. But, I do believe that she is hero to all people. I did not intend this thread to be a place for people to criticize Rosa Parks. I created it so people could have a place to pay tribute to her. Again I did not chose my words carefully enough. But I honestly did not think anyone would be criticizing her. Now Jaster, of course you are entitled to your negative opinion of Rosa Parks. I just wish you would have created another thread and done it there. I have done an edit of my first post to make it more clear of what I intended this thread to be. I will not try to "dead thread" this thread again, but I will not post in this thread again either.
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...I don't think you quite understood what I was trying to say. You just saw my post and noticed it was different and didn't necessarily hold Rosa Parks in a holy light, so you just disregarded it as a "flame" and a "negative criticism." Anyway, most of your post was just repeating the same thing over and over, but I'll try addressing everything.
Originally posted by: Warbler
She stood up for her rights I wonder how many people would have had the guts to do what she did?
As stated in my first post, several other people tried doing what she did. I even gave you the name of another guy who attempted the same thing. Homer Plessy. And also, even though she did commit a brave act, her personality still seemed pretty snobby. Like I said in my first post, she's only famous because she stood up for her constitutional rights, but then she sued Outkast just because they used her name as the title for one of her songs. First amendment, anyone? She should have sued Outkast because their music is awful, not because she thinks she's too good to have one of their songs named after her.
Originally posted by: Warbler
For all she knew, she could have gotten lyched for what she did. Her actions jump started the civil rights moment. She most definitely is a fine example of a human being.
I'm not saying her action wasn't brave. I even admitted that it was in my first post. I just don't think one single brave action should all of a sudden make someone "A+ PURE GRADE PRIME HUMAN BEING BETTER THAN THE LITTLE COMMON PEOPLE!!!" Also, other things helped provoke the civil rights movement. Like the four students who entered that North Carolina variety store and sat down at the "white counter." By 1963, 14,000 people had been arrested, all of them for being part of 758 resistance demonstrations in 11 different states. Like I said before, "And though I agree Rosa Parks may have been a butterfly that caused a hurricane, I still don't think she herself should be considered the hurricane. Keep in mind several other butterflies were flapping their wings as well."
Originally posted by: Warbler
I do believe that she is hero to all people. I did not intend this thread to a place where people criticize Rosa Parks.
I'm not so much criticizing Rosa Parks, as I am criticizing people's exaggerated opinion of her. People act as if she was one of the holy saviors of all black people, but thousands of people who were just as brave as her get overlooked and ignored by history. Again, I don't think you actually knew what I was saying in my first post.
Originally posted by: Warbler
I created so people could have place to pay tribute to her.

By "pay tribute," you mean a few replies, all of which containing sentences similar to "That's sad. RIP ." I'm sure she's up in heaven smiling down upon your monumental effort of making sure she gets the respect she deserves from a few people on an online Star Wars message board.
Originally posted by: Warbler
Now Jaster, of course you are entitled to your negative opinion of Rosa Parks. I just wish you would have created another thread and done it there.

I wasn't aware that negative and different were synonymous. Also, why would I create another thread solely to voice my opinion about Rosa Parks, when there is already a Rosa Parks thread? If everyone had to make a new topic every time they wanted to say something different than what other people are saying, it would nullify the purpose of MESSAGE BOARDS, which is to discuss and debate various subjects.
Originally posted by: Warbler
I have done an edit of my first post to make it more clear of what I intended this thread to be. I will not try to "dead thread" this thread again, but I will not post in this thread again either.

Alright, I'll respect your wish to keep this topic flame war free (even though I don't think every single debate and confrontation should qualify as a "flame war.") and I won't post again either.
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Does it matter why?

I've never been happy with RIP as a memorial acronym.

Rather than resting in peace, those who have concluded their story should Thrive In Memory Eternal.

Bumping a thread like this is a joyful idea.

Rosa's inspiration shouldn't rest on the day air stopped coursing through her lungs.

The right time of the year too with Easter around the corner.