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REY NOBODY - The 'Official' Fan-Editing Thread — Page 4

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RogueLeader said:

Not that I am the only one who can work on this, but I felt like letting y’all know I haven’t abandoned this idea or anything. Just busy with work right now.

I’m glad to hear that 😄

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Potential Scenes that Must Be Changed for a Rey Nobody Edit

I’m going to point out all scenes that are also related to new info regarding her parents. Some Rey Nobody edits will want to cut as much out about her parents as possible, while others will just reinterpret that information.

Potential cut - Kylo and Palpatine’s first scene. “She is not who you think she is.” (This line could be given a new context though.)

Parent scene - Rey gets a vision where we get a quick glimpse of her parents and Ochi’s ship flying away.

Parent scene - On Pasana, Rey sees Ochi’s ship and says something is familiar about it.

Parent scene - Rey picks up the dagger and senses bad things have happened with that blade. She hears her mother’s screams. (This could be kept as-is without the other references to her parents.)

Special Mention - Although Rey using Force lightning is meant to be an obvious connection to Palpatine, without the other related connections, this can simply be seen as a manifestation of her dark side abilities.

Parent scene - While waiting for 3PO to reboot on Kijimi, Rey tells Finn that she recognized Ochi’s ship.

Parent scene - During Rey and Kylo’s Force bond duel, Kylo tells Rey that Palpatine killed her parents because they were trying to hide Rey from him.

Rey Palpatine Scene - Kylo tells Rey that she is Palpatine’s granddaughter. (NECESSARY CUT)

Parent scene - After they escape, Rey says, “He killed my mother, and my father. I’m going to find Palpatine, and kill him.”

Parent scene - Back at the Resistance base, Finn tells Poe that D-O’s former mission was to bring a little girl on Jakku to the Emperor.

Rey Palpatine Scene - On Ahch-To, Luke says to Rey, “Because you’re a Palpatine.” (NECESSARY CUT)

Rey Palpatine/Parent Scene - When Rey confronts Palpatine, he has multiple lines related to their connection (NECESSARY CUTS)
“Long have I waited… for my grandchild to come home.”
“I never wanted you dead, I wanted you here, Empress Palpatine.”
“It is your birthright to rule. It is in your blood, our blood.”
“Weak. Like your parents.” Rey responds, “No. My parents were strong.” (Would need to be cut if you were to remove her parents being murdered by Ochi)
“Your master, Luke Skywalker, was saved by his father. The only family you have here is me.”
Later, as Rey is about to kill Palpatine, he says, “She will take her revenge”. (This line would need to be cut an editor was going to remove Rey’s parents being murdered by Ochi.)

This is all I can think of without going back and watching the movie.

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Random idea I don’t plan on using: Palpatine lies to Rey and Kylo about being Rey’s grandfather to manipulate her desperate desire for family. It’s revealed in the final confrontation that he made it all up.

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I think keeping Palpatine killing Rey’s parents gives her a good motivation to go and kill him, which also reduces the scenes you have to cut by a lot. I also think it’s necessary to shorten the parent scenes as much as possible so they don’t look like heroes as much, like DominicCobb did - I like how he handled the opening as well. I think the hardest thing is making the Kylo dialogue sound like he’s talking fluently instead of having his words cut up and edited, but I suck at audio so I don’t know how the best way to do it is.

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If Rey knows her parents were drunkards who sold her she should hate and not care that Palpatine killed them. The only way she can want to avenge them is if they died nobly, which is the thing we wanna avoid.

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hinventon said:

I think keeping Palpatine killing Rey’s parents gives her a good motivation to go and kill him, which also reduces the scenes you have to cut by a lot. I also think it’s necessary to shorten the parent scenes as much as possible so they don’t look like heroes as much, like DominicCobb did - I like how he handled the opening as well. I think the hardest thing is making the Kylo dialogue sound like he’s talking fluently instead of having his words cut up and edited, but I suck at audio so I don’t know how the best way to do it is.

Anakin Starkiller said:

If Rey knows her parents were drunkards who sold her she should hate and not care that Palpatine killed them. The only way she can want to avenge them is if they died nobly, which is the thing we wanna avoid.

Yes, this is kind of the problem for me. Having Palpatine kill her parents was clearly meant to provide her personal motivation for wanting to kill Palpatine, but they had to make her actually want to avenge them by making her parents sacrifice themselves for her. This is a clear contradiction to how they are presented in TLJ, which, in my opinion, is the more interesting approach. And I just hate how the story goes, “Your parents sold you for drinking money” to “No, your parents actually loved and died for you!”

There are also weird plot questions it brings up, like the fact that saying “She isn’t on Jakku” is such an obvious lie that Ochi never questions. Or the fact Ochi could have tortured them, or had Palpatine use his Force powers to get that information from their minds, rather than just kill them. Perhaps you could have Ochi kidnap and kill her parents so Rey would have a reason to hate and kill Palpatine in the future, because he foresaw what she would become, and wanted her to be a potential new vessel for him.

Of course, there are many different options editors can go with, like krausfadr’s idea to have Rey be the one to kill her parents. Maybe it would be a good idea to list out the different options and their pros and cons. Personally, I am pursuing a version that doesn’t string the audience along with more backstory. Instead, Rey’s visions focus on the potential futures. In her vision, she see the Resistance and her friends be killed by Palpatine, so she still has that personal motivation to kill Palpatine. Editing the Force bond duel to get this idea across is what I’m currently working on. He helps her piece together the fragmented vision she had at the beginning of the movie, and makes it clear to her that she needs more power to keep her friends safe.

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“Rey’s visions focus on the potential futures. In her vision, she see the Resistance and her friends be killed by Palpatine, so she still has that personal motivation to kill Palpatine.”

That sounds pretty great and would mirror anakin’s “turning to the dark side to prevent a vision”.

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Just a heads up darkshadowspike, you can make quotes by using > before the text.

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RogueLeader said:

Yes, this is kind of the problem for me. Having Palpatine kill her parents was clearly meant to provide her personal motivation for wanting to kill Palpatine, but they had to make her actually want to avenge them by making her parents sacrifice themselves for her. This is a clear contradiction to how they are presented in TLJ, which, in my opinion, is the more interesting approach. And I just hate how the story goes, “Your parents sold you for drinking money” to “No, your parents actually loved and died for you!”

I wholeheartedly agree. If you’re going through the trouble of keeping Rey a nobody, you should also maintain the core point behind this revelation in TLJ.

The thing she has to overcome isn’t just that her parents weren’t anybody important, but that they were filthy drunks that didn’t care about her. The whole point was Rey needs to move past her fixation over them, which was a big struggle for her not only in TLJ but also in TFA.

When Kylo says they were “filthy junk traders who sold you off for drinking money”, he’s just saying aloud what Rey already knows, so suddenly making her parents noble and heroic contradicts Rey’s own beliefs and nullifies her inner struggle. TRoS already has themes of family being something that goes beyond blood relation, with Rey even taking on the Skywalker name by the end, so there really is no point in clearing her parents name.

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Personally I think any solution that removes Ochi killing Rey’s parents as her motivation for hating Palpatine is going to be pretty difficult to pull off seamlessly. I’d like to see someone attempt a “conservative” version first that just removes the family lineage without messing with anything else.