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REVIEW: The Clone Wars TV series from 2008: surprisingly well done — Page 2

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So - I see that most of the stuff I liked as a kid (the Ewok movies, the Droids and Ewoks cartoons) are not on the canon list. Quite sad. Though it’s still in my personal canon.

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If you read the article/announcement from the official Star Wars site above, you can see that they fully intend to allow themselves to draw upon whatever elements they see fit for inclusion into future canon. So ideas, characters, or stories you liked may well appear in future material, albeit likely not in the same exact settings or context.

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pittrek said:

So - I see that most of the stuff I liked as a kid (the Ewok movies, the Droids and Ewoks cartoons) are not on the canon list. Quite sad. Though it’s still in my personal canon.

Who cares about personal canon now?

Sure there’s some of us who love certain aspects of LEGENDS continuity such as the KotOR games, Republic Commando, the Dark Forces/Jedi Knight series, and more. Also those who take the current continuity with welcome relief. Especially for those such as myself who stopped being a fan in 2006 and sold the majority of their STAR WARS stuff.

Makes the current continuity much easier to accept and having LEGENDS as baggage.
But I wish the rest of the episodes could’ve been completed for The Clone Wars as I felt it was very well made. Especially the Second Battle of Geonosis Arc. Far superior compared to the prequels and this is from someone who barely remembers being 1 year old watching The Empire Strikes Back in cinema in 1980. Also 4 in 1983 for Return of the Jedi.

But I wish REBELS was also 2.35:1-2.4:1 and the same design style as THE CLONE WARS, even though I watched REBELS first.

So, are they going to have more comics and books concerning THE CLONE WARS Legacy planned?

EDIT: Regards to Darth Bane’s design. (Might’ve mentioned it last page.) The Clone Wars > Legends.

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RayRogers said:

pittrek said:

So - I see that most of the stuff I liked as a kid (the Ewok movies, the Droids and Ewoks cartoons) are not on the canon list. Quite sad. Though it’s still in my personal canon.

Who cares about personal canon now?

I do.

Official canon – pre and post-Great EU Purge – can suck it.

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Man, I just watched a clip of Rebels, and the style of everything is complete shit. Every surface is oversimplified. All the sets look like they were designed by Playskool/Tonka and the costumes look vomitously childish, in friendly colors with pointless straps and pouches everywhere - “Hey kids! Check out these ADVENTURERS®!”.

And what’s with the goatees? Why do people still put that on a character to make them “cool”? I’m surprised they didn’t add a “space fedora” to the costume >_<;;

On the flipside, the action and writing didn’t seem bad right away.

I’m probably going to watch this too, just to see what happens with Ahsoka, but I am not looking forward to it. This is going to be hard to get through.

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cyclista said:

Man, I just watched a clip of Rebels, and the style of everything is complete shit. Every surface is oversimplified. All the sets look like they were designed by Playskool/Tonka and the costumes look vomitously childish, in friendly colors with pointless straps and pouches everywhere - “Hey kids! Check out these ADVENTURERS®!”.

And what’s with the goatees? Why do people still put that on a character to make them “cool”? I’m surprised they didn’t add a “space fedora” to the costume >_<;;

On the flipside, the action and writing didn’t seem bad right away.

I’m probably going to watch this too, just to see what happens with Ahsoka, but I am not looking forward to it. This is going to be hard to get through.

I’m really wishing the entire series isn’t just going to be about the crew of the Ghost. Maybe branch off into anthology territory instead of solely focusing on them. Also agree everything is far too oversimplified but if it takes them shorter to make the Seasons compared to The Clone Wars then eh, whatever.
Really hoping for more Tarkin and less kid friendly plots. Still disliking the aspect ratio chosen for the show. One caveat is I’ve already mentioned they’re using a lot of Ralph McQuarrie’s designs but rather they have more detail in the CG for everything.
Also noticed some users on here have made custom Blu-rays of certain arcs for The Clone Wars. Still should browse around for them.

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You forget how the Clone Wars took multiple seasons to improve graphically, in design and animation. Compare season 1 of the Clone Wars to an episode from the later seasons and it’s a vast improvement.

Similarly, Rebels is having to do the same. Their budget per episode is a fraction of what it was for Clone Wars and yet it’s improving far more quickly than the Clone Wars did.

I had my own quibbles with Sabine’s design but there’s really no denying that the show can be beautiful:

Animation and art design aside, what’s really important is story. Rebels hasn’t suffered the same pitfalls that Clone Wars did overkiddifying everything early on. They had a clear vision from the start of where they want to take the series and its been moving forward at a great pace. The second half of season two is promising to be quite the ride.

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Stepping softly in a danger zone…

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Yeah, the landscapes look nice. And of course stories are a pivotal element. But watching a play that has terrible sets and costuming is extremely distracting, even if the actors play well and the story is sound.

My biggest design complaints are with the characters, they just look like toys for very young children. Their costumes are like some child’s idea of proper gear, and their faces and expressions are more simplified than those in even the first episodes of CW. As for the animation quality, while this team isn’t the same, technology and technique in the industry in general has improved since CW. Budget differences are more of a legitimate issue, but that should only affect character or set execution, not the designs themselves.

Presumably the original CW series were marketed to include children as well, but their environments were still more realistic, and weren’t trying to make every texture, color, contour, and light source in the frame unmistakably soft and friendly.

I don’t deny there is work and complexity in the design or the stories of Rebels. Anyway, I’ve only seen screenshots and clips, so I don’t have a basis to discuss it extensively yet.

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oojason said:

‘Concept art from the unreleased episodes of Star Wars The Clone Wars’ (seasons 6-8)…

https://imgur.com/a/qlQPQ

There are moments when I wish Disney hadn’t bought Lucasfilm…

Then I remember Star Wars Detours and thank Iger for all he has done. In a perfect world Clone Wars would have gone to Season 8, but 1 film a year makes it hard to complain.

Maul- A Star Wars Story

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Does anyone have a good list of the most essential episodes/story arcs? I’m reluctant to commit to revisiting the entire thing, but I am interested in doing at least a partial re-watch before the new season hits next year.

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joefavs said:

Does anyone have a good list of the most essential episodes/story arcs? I’m reluctant to commit to revisiting the entire thing, but I am interested in doing at least a partial re-watch before the new season hits next year.

What you could do is start with the chronological order and just skip the arcs you already know you don’t care for. It’s a very different experience this way that puts a lot of good material ahead of a lot of the bumpy season 1 stuff.

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Stepping softly in a danger zone…

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And I’ve taken to calling Anakin Skywalker “American Skywalker” for the fact that despite his crass immaturity and blatant lack of respect for anyone or anything, everyone not only tolerates him, but celebrates him - honestly I don’t know how he was granted knighthood. He behaves less like a Jedi than any other Jedi onscreen, in any adaptation.

I don’t see why take such big issue with him. He never struck me as immature, and was miles above his movie counterpart. Shame they didn’t get a similar voice, cuz now they seem like two completely different characters.

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Anakin Starkiller said:

And I’ve taken to calling Anakin Skywalker “American Skywalker” for the fact that despite his crass immaturity and blatant lack of respect for anyone or anything, everyone not only tolerates him, but celebrates him - honestly I don’t know how he was granted knighthood. He behaves less like a Jedi than any other Jedi onscreen, in any adaptation.

I don’t see why take such big issue with him. He never struck me as immature, and was miles above his movie counterpart. Shame they didn’t get a similar voice, cuz now they seem like two completely different characters.

I, for one, am very pleased they got a different voice. No offense to Hayden, but he sounds like a dullard.