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SilverWook said:

How about "Puggo Undertexter"? (Swedish word for subtitles according to google.)

Jaxxon thought they might actually be Norwegian subtitles though. It's hard not think of the fake Swedish subs on Monty Python and the Holy Grail when seeing the real thing. ;)

 I'm from Sweden, so just post a pic of the subtitles and I can confirm it.

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bkev said:

I'd bet the Swedish print would look pretty good with a few color filters on it, assuming there are ones strong enough to take out that pink.

If you have the PG, take a look at the PSA extra.  It was originally as pink as the Swedish version, so it should give you an idea of how it would probably turn out given the tools at my disposal. I don't fear the pink.

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I missed the information on the Swedish print, is it another 16 mm print or a "gasp" full 35 mm?  Can someone fill me in?

Loved this project so happy to here theres more to come.  Oh and since its a swedish print how bout Abba Puggo?

 

 

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ratpack1961 said:

I missed the information on the Swedish print, is it another 16 mm print or a "gasp" full 35 mm?  Can someone fill me in?

It's a 16mm print with mono mix and Swedish subtitles. There are some brief clips taken from it that can be seen in the "making of" documentary on the Puggo Grande.  I've already captured the frames of the Swedish print, and turning it into a DVD is my next project.  But what will I call it? "Stor Mops" isn't bad.

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Puggo - Jar Jar's Yoda said:

ratpack1961 said:

I missed the information on the Swedish print, is it another 16 mm print or a "gasp" full 35 mm?  Can someone fill me in?

It's a 16mm print with mono mix and Swedish subtitles. There are some brief clips taken from it that can be seen in the "making of" documentary on the Puggo Grande.  I've already captured the frames of the Swedish print, and turning it into a DVD is my next project.  But what will I call it? "Stor Mops" isn't bad.

Ahh.... the Swedish print would still be cool to see. Really enjoyed watching Puggo Grande! Looking forward to seeing it sometime Puggo.

You still working on the viewmaster or whatever it is called films? The youtube documentary was funny.

 

 

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I should probably start a new thread somewhere, but thought I'd start here.  Long story short:  I just received and screened a 16mm low-fade 'scope print of EMPIRE STRIKES BACK that came from a collector in France who spotted another post I'd made at the 8mm film forum about that eBay auction.  He'd had this print available for sale since May of this year and for a helluva lot less than the auction ended for!   (Jean-Marc, if you're reading this, you rock!)  Another collector had dibs on both the ESB print and the same seller's JEDI print so they were "on hold" for awhile.  Lucky for me, this person backed out and I assume, only took JEDI. (go figure..)   Granted, it wasn't cheap!  But man oh man, what a beauty!   I was hoping that it would somehow turn out to be a reduction print from the 70mm version, but it's the 35mm original theatrical version reduced to 16mm cinemascope.   Colors are rich and contrast is striking unlike the slightly faded print for PUGGO GRANDE.   My offer above was kind of in jest, but Puggo, if you're ever so  inclined to do a PUGGO GRANDE II, lmk..   Meanwhile, if anyone ventures through my neck o' the woods here in the Ozarks wanting a private screening, I'd be delighted!

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With the right scanner prolly, with workprinter . . . hmmm ?
Would make a kick-ass DVD tho fo sho
Do it Puggo!


Ozarks you say? Went to school at Missouri-Rolla... Hmmm...

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Yes Guy, it's Ronnie!  I almost hate to  gloat about my private little 30th Anniversary screening but almost nobody around here would appreciate it..  Maybe I'll take some screenshots  next time I  screen the print.   

Darth Mallwalker, Rolla is about 100 miles north of me...

As for 16mm = 1080p, film  is film and video is video.  There are some very good looking Blu-ray transfers out there, and you can definitely see more detail in the image when it 's say, telecined in HD from the original negative.   But I'd rather see a projected film over video any time there's a choice.

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I presume this other print was being offered only on a private forum?

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Might have been nice if something had been said around here, before a certain rabbit blew his summer vacation money down the drain.

Those guys claiming the Ebay prices were too high must not have seen what other prints have gone for the past five years. When it comes to prints of films that are basically being supressed by their creator, conventional film collector logic no longer applies.

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Fantastic purchase rsortor! Damn! I'm jealous.

 

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Awesome news! A restoration would be even better. Could it be done for BD?

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Sounds like there are now two 16mm prints of ESB that could be used to put together a "PSB"?!  Truth is, I had not ever really considered doing ESB... PG was a LOT of work.  Although, now that some time has passed, I would be open to it.

In the nooks and crannies of my time, I've been finishing up the Swedish print. I'm not putting nearly as much work into it as I did for the PG.  Then I really want to do the rest of the cartridges (Puggo's Puppies).  Then OK, if you twist my arm, I'd be willing to do a PSB.  If the prints are as good as y'all say, it would be a pleasure.

Of course, I can only remind everyone that I'm limited to standard DVD resolution, and it's a workprinter transfer.  I imagine it would be a bit of a challenge to find someone willing to do a careful multi-pass wetgate of a Lucas film!

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Cool Puggo!!  While nobody knows where the eBay print ended up, (and there hasn't been any feedback there yet for it) I'm pretty sure my print would suffice for PSB!  There's not really any "damage" that would need to be cleaned up.  Certainly not of the level of the PG prints!  From what I gather from my correspondence with the seller, I'm the third owner of this print.  Both previous owners upgraded to 35mm prints!  (something I can promise won't happen with yours truly!)  It was printed in the mid-90's on what I believe to be low-fade Kodak reversal stock.  There are a very few emulsion scratches here & there as well as one or two minor splices; all of which may have been on the source print.  I've only screened it once and didn't take the time to examine these spots individually.  But I did carefully rewind it by hand, gently cleaning it and didn't feel any physical splices..  (btw, my cleaning cloth didn't pick up much.. the previous owner really must have pampered this print!)  It's on three 1600' reels and the reel-change burn marks are there along with the usual speckling for a couple feet before and after;  again, from the source theatrical print.

So if and/or when you decide to tackle PSB, I'm sure with this print it would be a walk in the park compared to PG!  It's just as well that you've got a full plate with the Swedish print and the Puppies (which I'm anxious to see!) because I want to screen this print a few more times before letting it leave the nest ;-)

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rsortor said:

But I did carefully rewind it by hand, gently cleaning it and didn't feel any physical splices.. 

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It's just as well that you've got a full plate with the Swedish print and the Puppies (which I'm anxious to see!) because I want to screen this print a few more times before letting it leave the nest ;-)

That's great that you've already cleaned it ... one less step for me :)

Be gentle on it...

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Somebody here does know where the Ebay print ended up. See above...

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