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Beber said:

I will seriously consider renting a theater in Paris for a private screening

Wow !

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AllAboutThatSpace said:

Wow, brilliant news!
Why shots from the blu ray though? I thought all your print scans are basically better in detail and closer to the original. Regardless I’m very excited 😃
Are you thinking of this as a step up from the SSE? How much will it improve on the SSE when viewed at 1080p?

The Blu-ray at least gives the illusion of more detail. A handful of frames at the reel changes in SSE 1.5/6 actually came from the Blu-ray - there was just no other suitable source available (except upscaled GOUT / blu-ray sourced Despecialized). In many cases I was able to interpolate / extrapolate missing frames using PFClean’s Fix Frame effect but the end of Reels 3 and 5 used a few Blu-ray frames. I did my best to make them blend with the LPP and at full speed it’s barely noticeable, but slow it down and it is much more obvious…

I do think this is a big step up from the SSE. This is much shaper (the Eastman prints are perhaps even sharper than the Technicolor), more detailed, will have more consistant colors, and won’t have any of that light streaking that our scan of the LPP had. If I had to put a number on it, I’d say 75% better than the SSE at 1080p. If it was only 10% better it wouldn’t be worth the effort.

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Shuggy said:

Williarob said:

For those of you wanting a closer look at the difference between the Denoised and non-denoised version:

http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/188230

I know some of you will hate the DNR, while others will prefer it, which is why I figured I should make two versions…

Jedit: By the way, the DNR is calibrated on a shot by shot basis, rather than just applying it to the whole film with one setting. As we all know, some scenes are much grainier than others!

I’m firmly in the anti DNR camp so extra thanks is in order for your being so considerate to we grain fetishists. 😃

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Quick question, why does the Final Result crop off some of the image?
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/188245

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Here’s a slight update of that shot:

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Lovely project! Is this based on Poitas scan?
When the day comes I’d sure love to get my hands on the 1080p release! 😃

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Blackout said:

Shuggy said:

Williarob said:

For those of you wanting a closer look at the difference between the Denoised and non-denoised version:

http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/188230

I know some of you will hate the DNR, while others will prefer it, which is why I figured I should make two versions…

Jedit: By the way, the DNR is calibrated on a shot by shot basis, rather than just applying it to the whole film with one setting. As we all know, some scenes are much grainier than others!

I’m firmly in the anti DNR camp so extra thanks is in order for your being so considerate to we grain fetishists. 😃

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Quick question, why does the Final Result crop off some of the image?
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/188245

The cropping in the example is not final and crops too much from top and left and I didn’t bother to make sure it remained at 2.39:1, but the final version will need to be cropped to remove the tape at the top and bottom on scene changes, the left side needs to be cropped because you can clearly see the line where the Eastman print ends and the SSE repair layer begins, and the right side needs to be cropped because there is still damage there. If you compare it to the blu-ray frame you will see that the cropping on the right is the same and the bottom is actually less.

http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/188248

Most of the prints I have are cropped slightly differently, with the LPP seeming to have more picture information on all sides.

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Williarob said:
I do think this is a big step up from the SSE. This is much shaper (the Eastman prints are perhaps even sharper than the Technicolor), more detailed, will have more consistant colors, and won’t have any of that light streaking that our scan of the LPP had. If I had to put a number on it, I’d say 75% better than the SSE at 1080p. If it was only 10% better it wouldn’t be worth the effort.

For some reason, I had always thought that the Technicolor prints were the sharpest. So this means that you’re working with (perhaps) the sharpest prints? That’s awesome! I’m very interested in eventually seeing some comparisons with clips from Legacy, especially that infamous shot of the speeder going through Mos Eisley and the Sandcrawler shot.

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Thanks for the reply Williarob!
So it’s going to be mostly Eastman with some Technicolor and some of the old Spanish LPP?
Really look forward to seeing more. 😃

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yoda-sama said:

DrDre said:

Here’s the official 4K77 frame (work in progress at 4K):

http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/188242

Interesting how his pupils seem to get slightly larger on the color corrected one… Is that an illusion or did the process artificially expand them (ever so slightly)?

Here’s the comparison for the latest color grade of that shot:

http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/188257

It’s an optical illusion of sorts. The before frame is low contrast. The increase in contrast makes the pupils appear larger, or conversly the low contrast of the before shot makes them appear smaller.

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Williarob said:

I do think this is a big step up from the SSE. This is much shaper (the Eastman prints are perhaps even sharper than the Technicolor), more detailed, will have more consistant colors, and won’t have any of that light streaking that our scan of the LPP had. If I had to put a number on it, I’d say 75% better than the SSE at 1080p. If it was only 10% better it wouldn’t be worth the effort.

The Technicolor process softens the image, which is why the process prints a black and white image underneath the color dyes to give it extra sharpness, and also why Technicolor prints are only two prints away from the negative - any further down the line and the image becomes too soft.

However, I didn’t realize that Eastman was that sharp. Mike Verta doesn’t have any of these prints for his project, last I heard. Perhaps someone should tell him.

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Will there be 1080p downscales of both the DNR and the noisy version?

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Here are five more preliminary color grades for the 4K video sample Williarob shared in the first post:

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All I’m taking away from that is there must be something really interesting on that ceiling…

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Beautiful ^ Seeing it at this resolution (to fit on the OT page), makes me think that this is how the GOUT could have looked… Forget 4K, let’s just render it at 480p - it’ll be gorgeous!

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Wow, this is amazing. Definitely keeping an eye on this project.

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Don’t worry, invariably someone will make versions all the way down to DVD5’s.

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This looks beautiful. Absolutely beautiful

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I’m finding it a tad yellow for my liking, but you know, if the entire movie is like that, it will be a truly enjoyable experience to watch. I’ll have to settle for a 1080p version of it.

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Oh man! This is so cool!

Williarob said:

I do think this is a big step up from the SSE. This is much shaper (the Eastman prints are perhaps even sharper than the Technicolor), more detailed, will have more consistant colors, and won’t have any of that light streaking that our scan of the LPP had. If I had to put a number on it, I’d say 75% better than the SSE at 1080p.

DrDre said:

Well, I’m sold. This will most likely be my favourite version of Star Wars upon it’s supposedly eventual 1080p release.

Thank you, Williarob and DrDre. You guys are doing great things.

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DrDre said:

Oke, here’s the soldier shot as it might look (hopefully) next year (it’s work in progress at 1080p, but you get the idea).

On a side note, the first time I saw SW, I thought this guy was Lukes Dad. Dont ask me why, but conspiracy theories abound in a classroom of 1st grade boys.

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Williarob said:
At that point, a grindhouse version would be the way to go. In the meantime I can assemble the Grindhouse version in parallel to the cleaned up version which will be considerably easier.

I’d welcome a grindhouse version, even with the accumulate print-dirt and skip-frames. Might as well throw a bone to Disney and have them do a proper GOUT UHD release. 😃

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Looking forward to this. what i have seen so far is amazing! You do good work Williarob!