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I just get confused by the inordinate passion that sports fans have, and I hate that as stupid as it is, it's totally acceptable.

25 guys spending their weekend on the fantasy football "draft" or putting on their little sports costumes to go to the bar (and yes, I call sports jerseys 'costumes') just seems like a waste of time, and it's up to anyone how to waste their time, but I get weird looks for holding my annual "6 Star Wars Movies In A Day" marathon. 

 

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TheBoost said:

but I get weird looks for holding my annual "6 Star Wars Movies In A Day" marathon. 

That's just a matter of statistics. Whatever's most common is normal. Whatever's not very common is weird.

Objectively, they're of equal value.

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darth_ender said:

I love sports.  I loved watching when Wayne Gretsky threw the ol' pigskin in the basket, thus making an eagle and going on to break the 30-love tie to win the World Series for Penn State.  When was that?  Back in '59 I think.  Man, those were the days!  I love sports!

Did you edit your post to fix a technical error?

Bingowings said:

It's the primitive tribalism of it I resent the most.

The sectarianism, the colours, the chants, the nationalism in miniature.

I do wonder if this is the draw for people, some deep biological yearning for that tribalism?

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Bingowings said:

I loved doing solitary exercise but I hated competitive sports.

I hated sport on television when I was a kid because my dad would pitch his flag into the telly

pitch his flag into the telly?  I know what telly means but not the rest.

Bingowings said:

 

My dad would take me to matches. I liked the travel, I even found dodging bricks thrown by the hooligan set exciting but I hated the games.

dodging bricks?   Do you mean to say that fans of one team were actually throwing bricks at the fans of the other team?  Wow.  and they call Eagle fans bad.   Am I misinterpreting the word bricks?    

Bingowings said:

I had to try and balance on two beer crates while covering my ears for the duration (loud noises are a seizure trigger but I was undiagnosed back then).

that is most unfortunate.

Bingowings said:

As a summer child school sports were a lesson in humiliation.

You had kids almost a year older than you (back when that meant something) rejecting you because you were titchy.

titchy?  why were you playing sports with children a year older than you?   as for them rejecting you, I know how that feels.  I've been there.   But I never blames sports in general for that.   I blame the kids actually doing the rejecting and adults not stepping in and teaching these kids a lesson. 

Bingowings said:

Sport related video games seem to me to be the most pointless creation in the universe.

why? what is wrong with them?  how are they more pointless than any other video game?  

Bingowings said:

It's the primitive tribalism of it I resent the most.

The sectarianism, the colours, the chants, the nationalism in miniature.

whatever.   this is the kind of stuff I'll never understand.   

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TheBoost said:

I just get confused by the inordinate passion that sports fans have, and I hate that as stupid as it is, it's totally acceptable.

25 guys spending their weekend on the fantasy football "draft" or putting on their little sports costumes to go to the bar (and yes, I call sports jerseys 'costumes')

not sure how you can call it a costume.   It is not like they are wearing the football pants, helmet, and shoulder pads.    They are just where a football jersey and jeans(or some other normal kind of pants) .   

TheBoost said:

just seems like a waste of time,

its call having fun. 

TheBoost said:

and it's up to anyone how to waste their time, but I get weird looks for holding my annual "6 Star Wars Movies In A Day" marathon. 

the only reason I would give you weird looks for that is that there are only 3 Star Wars movies.  You're not counting that Ewok movie, are you?   Do you watch them on vhs or laser disc?  They unfortunately have not yet been released on DVD or Blu-Rau.

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TheBoost said:

I just get confused by the inordinate passion that sports fans have, and I hate that as stupid as it is, it's totally acceptable.

25 guys spending their weekend on the fantasy football "draft" or putting on their little sports costumes to go to the bar (and yes, I call sports jerseys 'costumes') just seems like a waste of time, and it's up to anyone how to waste their time, but I get weird looks for holding my annual "6 Star Wars Movies In A Day" marathon. 

 

In my uninformed, unfounded, inaccurate opinion, the sports vs. geeks thing is one of the fundamental issues in our popular culture. I might even venture far enough to say that the disdain some sports-loving people have for "geek" things is an extension of anti-intellectualism.

“Grow up. These are my Disney's movies, not yours.”

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and yet, I am both a geek and a sports fans.  *shrugs*

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Personally, I don't care about sports. I don't follow them, I don't know the players or who's on what team or anything.

However, I have a working knowledge of just about all the big sports, and if there's one on TV that someone else is watching, I can get into it; even baseball and soccer, which I find incredibly boring.

However, I don't care about a particular team (though I admit that I pay special note to teams from my state/town/school), I cheer for a good game; to focus on football for the example, I want to see a ton of turnovers, I want to see big plays and sacks blocked kicks and overtime. I like when games are contentious and nobody is shutting anybody else out (like that one football game over Thanksgiving this year, it was incredible to see them own the field, but not very interesting otherwise).

It's also nice to get together with family (since that's the only time I ever watch a game) and connect over something, especially in a family where we've never been very "close" (not that we hate one another, just that we all do our own things and there's no Hallmark heart-to-heart, honest feelings discussions).

So yeah, I don't hate sports, but I don't care about them, either. And I don't like talking about them or hearing about them; my caring extends only as long as a game lasts.

This sums it up for me:

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TheBoost said:

25 guys spending their weekend on the fantasy football "draft"

Go stick a Star Wars movie in your eye.

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Warbler said:

and yet, I am both a geek and a sports fans.  *shrugs*

georgec said:

some sports-loving people

:)

I enjoy sports, too. I watch college basketball once or twice a week to follow my alma mater. I casually follow college football. But after college I lost interest in pro sports, since I was no longer exposed to 24/7 ESPN coverage in the dorms or apartments.

I play basketball and tennis, among other things. Though I'm a bit lazy these days, I typically run 20-30 miles per week (some say running isn't a sport, let's call it an athletic activity). I've run marathons. I appreciate athletic activity and exercise, and I also appreciate watching people who are extremely talented at different sports.

So, I will say it's also possible to casually enjoy sports, as a participant and a spectator, without being too extreme or hard core about it. But I find the ESPN culture, for lack of better description, to be excessive and a bit silly. And others would say the same about someone who plays Warcraft 10 hours per day. And I would agree.

Point is, when it comes down, extremism for anything can be annoying. But in our culture it's more acceptable to be extremely into sports than it is to be extremely into SW, gaming, science, etc. In school yards it's the alpha jock-types who tend to bully others. There's a huge stigma people are taught to associate with "geeky" things at a young age, and that permeates into other aspects of life as people age.

“Grow up. These are my Disney's movies, not yours.”

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georgec said:

Point is, when it comes down, extremism for anything can be annoying. But in our culture it's more acceptable to be extremely into sports than it is to be extremely into SW, gaming, science, etc. In school yards it's the alpha jock-types who tend to bully others. There's a huge stigma people are taught to associate with "geeky" things at a young age, and that permeates into other aspects of life as people age.

This is the thing right here.

Oddly enough, though, sports fans = geeks/nerds about sports.

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Bingowings said:

Sport related video games seem to me to be the most pointless creation in the universe.

So very agreed!

It's the primitive tribalism of it I resent the most.

Agreed again! Right there with you!

The sectarianism, the colours, the chants, the nationalism in miniature.

Still with you! Yeah!

I liked watching rugby but that was more out of anatomical curiosity than anything else.

Hell yeah, that... err... uh... Wait, what?

;)

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Bingo, have you ever gone to a football match or been caught in the raucous crowds of said matches?

 

“Grow up. These are my Disney's movies, not yours.”

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timdiggerm said:

TheBoost said:

but I get weird looks for holding my annual "6 Star Wars Movies In A Day" marathon. 

That's just a matter of statistics. Whatever's most common is normal. Whatever's not very common is weird.

Objectively, they're of equal value.

No. Some things are far more valuable and beneficial than others (obviously I am not talking about an SW marathon, or WoW here). Somethings actually matter. Objectively, somethings people obsess over actually matter and mean something. Sports is just dumb meaningless shit. It is a bunch of people playing a stupid game, and even more people obsessing about them playing this stupid game.

It doesn't accomplish or achieve anything, other than raking in lots of cash. All it is is dumb, lucrative entertainment.

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georgec said:

Bingo, have you ever gone to a football match or been caught in the raucous crowds of said matches?

 

Wait, are you telling me they have orgies at those things? I suddenly feel like the mass appeal of sports may finally make a tiny bit of sense to me...

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CP3S said:

 Sports is just dumb meaningless shit. It is a bunch of people playing a stupid game, and even more people obsessing about them playing this stupid game.

its called having fun.   You should try it some time.  

some other idiot said:

 Star Wars is just dumb meaningless shit. It is a bunch of people watching a stupid movie, and even more people obsessing about them playing the stupid video games based on it.

 

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Warbler said:

TheBoost said:

25 guys spending their weekend on the fantasy football "draft" or putting on their little sports costumes to go to the bar (and yes, I call sports jerseys 'costumes')

not sure how you can call it a costume.   It is not like they are wearing the football pants, helmet, and shoulder pads.    They are just where a football jersey and jeans(or some other normal kind of pants) .   

If I put on my Darth Vader cape and mask, but wear jeans, people say I'm in a costume.

If someone puts on the uniform of a sport they don't play, or a team they're not on, with someone else's name on the back, looks like a costume to me.

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Warbler said:

CP3S said:

 Sports is just dumb meaningless shit. It is a bunch of people playing a stupid game, and even more people obsessing about them playing this stupid game.

its called having fun.   You should try it some time.  

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 Star Wars is just dumb meaningless shit. It is a bunch of people watching a stupid movie, and even more people obsessing about them playing the stupid video games based on it.

At least movies have a narrative :P I've seen The Replacements a couple of times and it's fun enough.

Why should I care about team X "from" state X with mascot X? I mean if sports teams were truly representative of their home states (like Hunger Games) I could probably get more into them. I "played" soccer in high school (mostly from the bench). It was fun enough to actually do, but I never feel a desire to watch others do it. I rowed for a time as well but rowing would be sort of silly to watch if I didn't personally know the people. I had good friends who played volleyball in high school and would enjoy it because I felt some investment because of them. Plus, you know, girls volleyball. Horse racing is something else I can enjoy, when I bet on races. Without some sense of a personal stake, I just don't get it.

Of course Warbler is going to tell me that most of these are not sports, the way he told me wrestling isn't a sport ;P

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Mrebo said:

Of course Warbler is going to tell me that most of these are not sports, the way he told me wrestling isn't a sport ;P

you are putting words into my mouth that are not there.   Of soccer and rowing and horse racing are sports.   The only reason I said wrestling wasn't a sport, was because the results are predetermined, and of course I was referring to WWF and WCW style of wrestling.   However, if you are talking about the kind of wrestling they do in highschool, college and at the olympic games,  I do consider that a sport.   

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georgec said:

Bingo, have you ever gone to a football match or been caught in the raucous crowds of said matches?

Imagine there was a stimulus that could make you lose consciousness, self dignity and potentially cause physical injury and it could happen at anytime.

That's my reaction to a rapid surge in crowd noise in the flesh.

On television it's just an annoying buzz or a rumble but the sound of thousands of people exploding with enthusiasm all at once while I'm there, is my Kryptonite.

Televised sport just annoys me but being there would be torture.

Warb what I meant was we had one television and if my father watched sports or my mother watched soaps we either learned to enjoy it (and I never did) or we tried to ignore it (which was often impossible).

When you are little concepts like property rights and a weekend vegetating after a long weeks work make very little sense.

You know you want to watch the Bananasplits and this giant has the most boring thing in the universe on instead for up to six hours some of which he is asleep and still I can't change the channel.

Football hooliganism was a major UK problem in the 1970s.

We were on a special train and they blocked the tracks and had men with bricks on either bank of the track and they threw them into the carriages.

The adults had to lie on top of us to shield us from the broken glass.

I was competing with people almost a year older than me because I was born at the end of the academic year intake.

That meant I was bar a few days a year younger than the oldest guy in the same year group.

When you are 42 that's no difference at all but when you are 6 it's all the difference.

I was also in terms of learning to read mismatched. because my mother taught me to read quite well, before I went to school and had to sit through lessons teaching me how to read a couple of years after I had learned how to read.

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Warbler said:

 

some other idiot said:

 Star Wars is just dumb meaningless shit. It is a bunch of people watching a stupid movie, and even more people obsessing about them playing the stupid video games based on it.

 

CP3S said:

Some things are far more valuable and beneficial than others (obviously I am not talking about an SW marathon, or WoW here).