Preserving DTS LaserDisc tracks, specifically Jurassic Park — Page 8

I'm hoping little if any adjustment will be needed. I'd also be happy if we can cut that silly new Universal logo and replace it with the one from 1993. 

The DNR on the new transfer is horrible but the colors are a huge improvement. Would anyone with the skills be willing to have a go at retiming the old transfer to the new colors?

These are just screen caps from VLC running a 1080p mkv rip of the trailer, in 2D.  Taken from a DCP.  I don't know what you all are on about.  This looks just about the same as the 35mm print I saw last year.  In motion, it's amazing.

http://i.imgur.com/rrLV8Rx.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/CvTbo6Q.jpg

Has anyone actually seen the new Blu-ray?  It's not even out yet.  From what I can tell, a lot of this judgement is being placed on a YouTube trailer, hardly a good reference.  

3D Blu-ray review

http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Jurassic-Park-3D-Blu-ray/59530/#Review

People who've seen it in the theater seem to be reporting less noticeable DNR, but the bluray is terrible. See here:

http://www.caps-a-holic.com/hd_vergleiche/multi_comparison.php?&art=part&x=526&y=262&action=1&image=11&hd_multiID=234&cap1=3016&cap2=21066&disc1=292&disc2=2276&lossless=1

The old transfer is over-sharpened but the smearing on that SLJ shot just isn't something I'd pay money for :(. I still prefer the new colors though.

Just for joking, I've done a comparison between the 3D BD and my PAL italian laserdisc; pictures of the 3D BD are taken from here (PNG uncompressed 1920x1080, downscaled to 640x360 with bicubic interpolation); LD pictures are from the capture I've done with my PC and a Pioneer LD-V4300D, video composite cable, a bit of sharpening and noise reduction and downscaled via avisynth; first the 3D BD, then the PAL LD:

(look at the blue box and the monitor, on the BD they are bigger... maybe is only due to the fact that the movie has converted to 3D?

As you can see, 3D BD has (obviously) more resolution, but the image is cropped on all four sides, and the colors are worst than the LD...

With a better laserdisc player and different LD editions for average/median, the quality could be better - I have more than one copy of the Italian PAL, plus the UK PAL boxset that could be used for the english subtitled parts; plus, I could still add the DTS soundtrack...

I must admit that, after I've done this job, I noted a link to the 2D BD screenshot page, but I'm too lazy to redo everything... well, the 2D has better colors than 3D, still they are different from the PAL LD, but can't say which one is the closest to the original.

Andrea, those caps of your LD remind me a lot of my old vhs, mainly the colour. I can't for the life of me remember if it was widescreen or pan/scan. Gotta dig that tape up someday.

That Blu-ray.com reviewer loses credibility when he says "First things first: there is absolutely nothing wrong with the 2011 DTS-HD Master Audio 7.1 surround track."  

Thing about these schmucks is that they review arbitrarily, not basing their reviews on accuracy to an original theatrical experience.  

As far as the image, the 3D disc is so much closer to the film print I saw.  Surely not the same, but it's so much closer and better than the 2011 disc.  Honestly, you can't even consider the 2011 disc acceptable.  It's overly enhanced, poorly colored shit.

Let's be frank too: this is a 3D only release, that is designed to be viewed in 3D, with glasses.  We aren't really giving it a fair assessment if we're looking at it in 2D, on computer monitors.

If we can keep pressuring Universal for a good 2D, 4K derived transfer, I think we're in for a treat.  

I'm gonna say that even without seeing this on my system yet, the 3D version still looks vastly better than that wretched 2011 version.

Am I reading correctly too that this disc has a Dolby 5.1 track?  Can anyone confirm alternate audio tracks?

borisanddoris said:

As far as the image, the 3D disc is so much closer to the film print I saw.  Surely not the same, but it's so much closer and better than the 2011 disc.

Don't know... the first image is a bit dark, but colors could be OK, as the second one; but the third image I posted (amber mine) seems from an old '60s italian spaghetti western film print in a bad status, you know what I mean?

About the fourth image, I've never seen a sky with that color when the sun shines... fifth could be OK, too.

At least, the laserdisc colors are more coherent for the whole movie.

Let's be frank too: this is a 3D only release, that is designed to be viewed in 3D, with glasses.  We aren't really giving it a fair assessment if we're looking at it in 2D, on computer monitors.

and I agree with you on this. But, as I have not a 3D TV, as seen as 2D I prefer LD's colors, and also its less cropped image. If only LD has the same resolution as BD... (^^u)

Also, have when was the last time anyone has seen this one on 35mm?  I saw it less than a year ago, and watched it about as closely as I could because I was not only excited to see my favorite film at an age I could really appreciate it, but also because the 2011 disc just did not look right.  

I know some folks with a print...I'll see if I can get them to scan a few frames but don't hold your breath.  

Edit: I too like the LaserDisc...a lot.  

A 70mm blow up?  Are you sure?  As far as I know, JP never had any 70mm prints struck, unless it was some sort of one off thing.  That'd mean it was in 6 track mag.  Based on all the things I've ever seen, 70mm prints were never struck.  Had DTS not been ready, I'm sure we would might have seen 70mm 6 track prints struck.

This of course is all stateside.

Truth hurts doesn't it?  Oh sure, not as much as sitting on a bicycle with the seat missing, but it hurts.

I also want to thank dvdmike for allowing my inbox to get flooded with notifications today.  Huzzah!