Preserving DTS LaserDisc tracks, specifically Jurassic Park — Page 11

_,,,^..^,,,_ said:

Just a test clip - 1000 frames, 1280x720 25p, no audio, compressed at 2000mbps with x264: youtube link (watch at 720)

Could be downloaded here: http://www.sendspace.com/file/ahbob6" target="_blank">http://www.sendspace.com/file/ahbob6

What is the source of the test clip?

borisanddoris said:

 

Must go faster....must go faster...

Borisanddoris, how much delay did you use? I used about 4000ms in mkvmerge and that seems to have synced yours and ElDonate 's Cinema DTS soundtrack to the new master but I'm a bad judge. Also, listening to the 5.1 last night and I think you are right that it is a downmix of the DTS-HD MA 7.1. I took the new 3D master, made a 2D MKV and put the Cinema DTS on it, with the new 3D 7.1 remix and the old (from the 2011 disc) 7.1 remix.

FYI the 2D disc that comes with the set is the exact same disc as the 2011 Jurassic Park Blu-ray release.

What are you using to capture?

For anyone interested, I do happen to have the Coherent Acoustics DTS for the "fixed" JP DTS DVD.  A kind member here helped me acquire the DVD and I wouldn't have a problem giving back.  Maybe at least to have another audio option.  It is 755kbps, not 1.5kbps. 

I'm actually thinking about synching the audio to my Japan JP DVD and see how it works out.

borisanddoris said:

What are the specs for the Japanese DVD?  It was Superbit wasn't it?

Is the day over?  I want to go play with tsmuxer!!!!

It was Superbit.  Apparently though the audio wasn't up to par with other releases.  So, I figure, why not try that video with the "fixed" DVD DTS.  Just another way to watch the film.

:)

dvdmike said:

Didn't find any evidence of massive DNR, the picture looked clean with lots of detail.

I can name 3 people that would spout that over there now that I am most of the guys left, its just mostly fanboy bull shit there now, there is a TON of DNR hyperbole on full 

I think he was talking about the 3D version shown in theaters. It certainly had DNR applied (for the 3D conversion) but I don't remember it looking anywhere near as bad as the new Bluray caps I'm seeing.

I'm very content to just get the old Bluray. It does look very EEed, but that doesn't bother me nearly as much as DNR.

I get disappointed to see movies like these getting cropped again and again ..... it just blows.

The DCP version looked better than the 3D BD screenshots look, especially in 2D with no glasses on. Yes, the color timing was different, but in a darkened theater my eyes adjusted better than looking at them on a monitor. And without glasses, it looked nice and bright. Why do the framegrabs from the home version so dark and dim in comparison?

And as I said before, the 2011 BD was also cropped. In fact, looking at DVDBeaver's comparison of the R1 DVD, Superbit DVD and 2011 BD, the framing of the DVDs only showed a tiny bit more picture info than the BD. From the previous comparison I found, the laserdiscs showed more on the top, left and right, but a little less on the bottom.

In both the DVD version and the 3D screenings I saw, the Mr. DNA cartoon has parts where things look shifted up. When he says "a blueprint for building a living thing", the brachiosaur outline's head is very close to the top of frame, and there's blank space underneath. (In 2 out of 3 of the 3D theatrical screenings I recently attended, the projection was framed such that the head was partially cropped off!)

My copy of the 3D Bluray won't arrive until Thursday and I don't have a BD drive in this machine anymore, so I won't be able to rip it and adjust, but...

...what I'd do is rip the audio track, check it's frame amount, then add the difference as silence to the front of the DTS track.  They should both end at the same spot.

I wonder how hard it would be to do a scan of a print ourselves.  The cheating method would be to telesync with an HD camera adjusted properly, but it would only be 1080p and wouldn't be a true scan, but maybe closer to theatrically accurate than what we're being fed.

bigrob said:

you may want to track down the R6 DTS DVD of JP as well if your comparing

That was an exclusive DTS track to that region that was 1536kpbs  and apparently a different mix. I had it for a while and it sounded superb. very high bitrate as well whilst reading up on it

 

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I have the White Box set and they are 755kbps for DTS.  It would be nice if someone on the forum had the R6 Japan DTS set as the audio for JP 1 & 2 had exclusive mixes for the region.  I also believe the video bitrate topped out @ 9mbps which was the higher than the Superbit set.

I might have tracked down the superbit audio, but do we need it when we have the cinema track? surely that is definitive?

dvdmike said:

I might have tracked down the superbit audio, but do we need it when we have the cinema track? surely that is definitive?

I'd personally like to have the DTS audio for all 3 of the Japan R6's.  It would be nice for the archive and for making a custom disc or mkv with the different DTS tracks .... especially the full bitrate as compared to the half bitrate ..... to switch between for giggles.

:)

Jetrell Fo said:

dvdmike said:

I might have tracked down the superbit audio, but do we need it when we have the cinema track? surely that is definitive?

I'd personally like to have the DTS audio for all 3 of the Japan R6's.  It would be nice for the archive and for making a custom disc or mkv with the different DTS tracks .... especially the full bitrate as compared to the half bitrate ..... to switch between for giggles.

:)

Ok should be good by tomorrow for all 3