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DuracellEnergizer said:

 

greenpenguino said:


Who are the Clones?

The clones are lizard-like invaders from another galaxy.


This reminds me of the Chazrach from the NJO.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Chazrach

 

Actually I was thinking, this

Combined with a bit of this

With maybe a hint of this

 

So basicly

this

and this

 

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Added the "Idealistic Crusade" question inspired by Bester.

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I think that this thread (and this website in general) is awesome. I was horrified by the prequels and not only think that they are some of the worst films ever made, but will be some of the worst movies EVER made. I think that this site is important.

But I want to start all signing on to the same thing so that we can get this thing moving.

I have one point that I think all of us should sign on to:

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Some of the better ideas I read about have to do with a (forgive the noun) "alien" force threatening the republic. The problem with this is that if there is no "outside" power mentioned in any of the OT movies. And it does not make sense that, if such a power had existed, it would just show up and collapse without a trace. For this reason I think we should adopt as a rule that:

the Anti-Republic force MUST consist of political elements and species that exist in the OT.

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Jedi1520 said:

I think that this thread (and this website in general) is awesome. I was horrified by the prequels and not only think that they are some of the worst films ever made, but will be some of the worst movies EVER made. I think that this site is important.

But I want to start all signing on to the same thing so that we can get this thing moving.

I have one point that I think all of us should sign on to:

(1)

Some of the better ideas I read about have to do with a (forgive the noun) "alien" force threatening the republic. The problem with this is that if there is no "outside" power mentioned in any of the OT movies. And it does not make sense that, if such a power had existed, it would just show up and collapse without a trace. For this reason I think we should adopt as a rule that:

the Anti-Republic force MUST consist of political elements and species that exist in the OT.

How about Rodians?

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Pennsylvania Jones said:

Jedi1520 said:

I think that this thread (and this website in general) is awesome. I was horrified by the prequels and not only think that they are some of the worst films ever made, but will be some of the worst movies EVER made. I think that this site is important.

But I want to start all signing on to the same thing so that we can get this thing moving.

I have one point that I think all of us should sign on to:

(1)

Some of the better ideas I read about have to do with a (forgive the noun) "alien" force threatening the republic. The problem with this is that if there is no "outside" power mentioned in any of the OT movies. And it does not make sense that, if such a power had existed, it would just show up and collapse without a trace. For this reason I think we should adopt as a rule that:

the Anti-Republic force MUST consist of political elements and species that exist in the OT.

How about Rodians?

I agree about it being a 'domestic' threat. But we're not much for accepting rules, everyone follow their own ideas. I don't really like the idea of it being one particular species (though I have considered trandoshans) because it creates a stigma for every member of that species - dramatically changing our view of Greedo or Bossk or whatever species we choose. I edited by first post in this thread to update my thoughts on what the clone wars are about.

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Jedi1520 said:


Some of the better ideas I read about have to do with a (forgive the noun) "alien" force threatening the republic. The problem with this is that if there is no "outside" power mentioned in any of the OT movies. And it does not make sense that, if such a power had existed, it would just show up and collapse without a trace. For this reason I think we should adopt as a rule that:

the Anti-Republic force MUST consist of political elements and species that exist in the OT.


Well, if we go by this logic, then there are many things we couldn't include in our rewrites. For example a prostitute character couldn't be added because prostitutes weren't mentioned or alluded to in the films, or ice cream men because ice cream wasn't mentioned, etc.

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DuracellEnergizer said:

 

Jedi1520 said:


Some of the better ideas I read about have to do with a (forgive the noun) "alien" force threatening the republic. The problem with this is that if there is no "outside" power mentioned in any of the OT movies. And it does not make sense that, if such a power had existed, it would just show up and collapse without a trace. For this reason I think we should adopt as a rule that:

the Anti-Republic force MUST consist of political elements and species that exist in the OT.


Well, if we go by this logic, then there are many things we couldn't include in our rewrites. For example a prostitute character couldn't be added because prostitutes weren't mentioned or alluded to in the films, or ice cream men because ice cream wasn't mentioned, etc.

 

Wait...  If we mentioned Ice Cream, it'd be no better than George's prequels. ;)

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Jedi1520 said:

I think that this thread (and this website in general) is awesome. I was horrified by the prequels and not only think that they are some of the worst films ever made, but will be some of the worst movies EVER made. I think that this site is important.

But I want to start all signing on to the same thing so that we can get this thing moving.

I have one point that I think all of us should sign on to:

(1)

Some of the better ideas I read about have to do with a (forgive the noun) "alien" force threatening the republic. The problem with this is that if there is no "outside" power mentioned in any of the OT movies. And it does not make sense that, if such a power had existed, it would just show up and collapse without a trace. For this reason I think we should adopt as a rule that:

the Anti-Republic force MUST consist of political elements and species that exist in the OT.

Good points- though I think MUST is a strong word.

If an alien presence is the source/a major component of the conflict, then there must be some explanation as to why they're all gone.  "Explanation" itself might be too strong of a word, but let's just say you have to handle anything you bring up that isn't present in the OT.

And Ice Cream is definitely part of the OT.  Just ask Tobar:

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xhonzi said:

And Ice Cream is definitely part of the OT. 

And ot.com.  Just ask the politics thread.

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TV's Frink said:

xhonzi said:

And Ice Cream is definitely part of the OT. 

And ot.com.  Just ask the politics thread.

Or, inevitably, the BioShock thread.

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 Are you focusing on the Clone Wars?
            YES:
                Who are the Clones?
                How does the War pertain to them?
                How does Cloning become irrelevant by the start of Episode 4?
        Is the War 'Symmetrical' (i.e. WWII) or is it 'Asymmetrical' (i.e. Iraq War or the OT Empire vs Rebellion)
        What are the objectives of both sides in the War? 
        When did/does the War start?
        How does the War end?

 

Yes and...

1) They are the military forces of the League, a non-Human separatist movement that seeks to destroy the Republic in order to end the perceived dominance of Humans over the galaxy.

2) They started it.

3) The answer is two-fold. First, cloning was outlawed in the Republic and stays that way in the Empire. Second, some species are easier to clone than others. Humans are one of the more difficult ones. And as they are the main species of the Empire by the time of the OT, cloning has faded into obscurity. Also, in my draft, you cannot clone Force-sensitives.

4) Difficult to determine. The League has been covertly preparing a fleet and several armies for upwards of five or six years by the start of Episode I. The war is briefly symmetrical when they attack Coruscant at the start of the war, causing the Republic to collapse after the League bombs the Senate and kills the Chancellor. After that it's roving fleets of clones vs. various different remnant groups and rebels. So you could say that for part of the war, it's asymmetrical in favor of the clones.

5)

League: wipe out Humanity.
Alliance to Restore the Republic: restore the Republic.
Empire: take over the galaxy by any means necessary.

Episode II shows all three factions existing simultaneously. It's depicted as a two-against-one conflict of Alliance and Empire vs. the League. Needless to say, the League is eventually defeated...only to have the victors turn on each other afterward.

6) The Clone Wars begin with a surprise attack on Coruscant in the year 25 BBY.

7) The Clone Wars end with the destruction of the League in 21 BBY.

Continiuity to the OT:
    Do you show Obi-Wan receiving training from Yoda?
    Do you show Anakin receiving training from Obi-Wan?

 

1) No. Yoda is never on-screen, though he gets a mention here and there.

2) No. Anakin is in his thirties in Episode I. He has had an apprentice of his own already! One thing I was sick of right away in the PT was the decision to focus so much screen-time on Anakin's youth.

How many years before Episode 4 does your story take place and how old are the main characters?

Episode I: 25 BBY
Episodes II and III: 21 BBY...the gap between these two films is only a few "days".

My protagonist is in his late twenties in Episode I, Anakin is in his mid-thirties, his love interest is around the same age as my protagonist...point is, there are no stinking kids. The other major villain (besides Anakin and Palps) is in her forties.

 

How will you handle the surprises in the OT?  Will you set out to protect them from a chronological viewer?  Or will you show them happen?
        Will you show Yoda?
        Will you show that Luke has a twin sister?  Named Leia?
        Will you reveal that Anakin becomes Darth Vader?   

 

I will address the OT surprises if absolutely necessary, but I will not go out of my way to name the twins or show Anakin being put into the Vader suit. Turning him evil and burning him will be enough. In the Lucas prequels, I always felt like he was just running down a checklist..."did we show how that prop from the OT got there? ok *tick*"

Will you have surprises in your new PT? Will it affect anything that we thought we already knew in the OT?  

Lips = sealed. :-)

 

How do the droids fit in to your new story, if at all?

No. With all due respect, **** the droids. I have A droid in my treatment, but not *those* droids. My droid character is named "Zero" and is the engineer aboard the main character's ship. He has a few important technical functions in the plot, roughly analogous to how R2 took care of all the computer-related conundrums in the OT.

Zero also lends some comic relief here and there, mostly pertaining to his lack of understanding of living creatures' biology (such as referring to muscles and bones as actuators and struts, for instance).

Zero is the only non-English-speaking major character. 

I'm specifically avoiding any appearance or mention of astromech or protocol droids.

Who is the main protagonist in your films?  
- I clearly think that Anakin should be the main protagonist as a point of comparison that Luke is the protagonist of the OT.  

 

It's sad to see someone make iron-clad "should" statements based on Lucas' six-year-long fecal output. You ought to open your mind a little and accept the existence of other possibilities.

Case in point, Anakin is *not* the main protagonist of my trilogy. My protagonist is a likable half-Chiss everyman who happens to be a smuggler captain, but with a latent Force sensitivity that entwines his destiny with that of the Jedi's. His name is Ben. I have set things up so that he is the hero of one trilogy and the unsung precursor of the next. Echoes of his actions and personality can be felt throughout the OT, with Obi-Wan and Luke even uttering his name out loud. Let me say right off the bat, that this does *not* mean Ben is Skywalker Senior. That's still Anakin's domain.

In short, Anakin is important in my treatment, but he's not the protagonist. He's a part of a larger story, just like he was in the OT.

 

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<div>The Setting</div>
<div> The War</div>
<div> Are you focusing on the Clone Wars?</div>
<div> YES:</div>
<div> Who are the Clones?</div>


They are a stop-gap measure to fill serious manpower shortages in the Republic armed forces. The ulterior motive is to militarize the Republic for the purposes of abolishing its democracy.

<div> How does the War pertain to them?</div>


They become the very convenient tool suddenly available to the Republic when it comes under the attack from the Separatists.

<div> What about the Clone Wars would cause Obi-Wan to refer to them as an "idealistic crusade"? What were the ideals? How was it a crusade?</div>

It's not Obi-Wan who makes that reference, it's Owen. And he does it because he considers them politics in its most destructive form. In some ways, he's right.

<div> How does Cloning become irrelevant by the start of Episode 4?</div>

The personnel issues have been solved through conscription and seriously increased volunteer recruitment, fuelled by the Chancellor's very effective propaganda.

<div> How is cloning limited to the point that the whole story doesn't get consumed by the idea of clones replacing major players?</div>


Well, since it's a stop gap measure, the Clones are used as just that- a disposable tool. Major players are established before the Clones come onto the stage.

<div> If Symmetrical:</div>
<div> How does War work exactly? How does hyperspace affect a galaxy wide war?</div>


This war will be very WWI-like. Hyperspace affects movements of troops, for sure, but since trade moves along established hyperspace lanes and planets are the resource base, there is still something to be said for frontlines and supply lines, which will dictate how troop movements can be made to achieve war objectives.

<div> Does your story feature "soldiers"? Who are they? Are the main characters soldiers in the War? Leia's and Ben's comments seem to indicate that they were.</div>


Yes, they will become involved in the war. Also, we'll meet the fighter squadron Anakin serves with, as well as a band of Mandalorians that act as good foils for the heroes.


<div> Who are the armies? Does the Republic have its own army, or do each of the independent planets have their own armies?</div>

The Republic does have its own army, but it starts out desperately underfunded and badly organized.

Who is the enemy large enough that this is a full scale war?</div>


This is the Separatists, a Confederation of systems that leave the Republic because of their belief in system independence. They have enough resources to field some considerable forces, but like the Republic, they supplement regular troops with some disposable troops, in their case droids.

<div> When did/does the War start?</div>


It stats when Anakin is about 25, old enough to have had some Jedi training and also some training as a fighter pilot.

<div> How does the War end?</div>


Roughly, with the end of Republic democracy and the defeat of the Separatists.

<div>Continiuity to the OT:</div>
<div> Do you show Obi-Wan receiving training from Yoda?</div>


No. He's much to old to still be an apprentice at the start of the story, particularly since the story starts with Obi-Wan becoming Anakin's mentor, indicating that he is old enough to be a Jedi Master in his own right.

<div> Do you show Anakin receiving training from Obi-Wan?</div>


Yes, some.

<div> Are Obi-Wan and Anakin friends? When do they have the chance to establish this friendship</div>


Absolutely. They are repeatedly bonding and showing their loyalty to each other, to the point of interfering with their proper roles as Mentor and apprentice.


<div> How many years before Episode 4 does your story take place and how old are the main characters?</div>


About 30-20 years before. Anakin goes from age about 20 to about 30. Obi-Wan from about 35-45. Etc.


<div> Will you show Yoda?</div>


As my story currently stands, yes. I've been thinking about this, and I'm still thinking about it, but at this point, it would be strange to not have Yoda be at least an actor of some significance. If the Clone Wars is the biggest conflict the galaxy has seen in 1000 generations, the greatest living Jedi is not likely to sit on the sidelines or meditate in a swamp.


<div> Will you show that Luke has a twin sister? Named Leia?</div>

My current plan is yes.

<div> Will you reveal that Anakin becomes Darth Vader? </div>

Yes. I can't see how it would be possible to not show this, unless the story ends before the Anakin-Obi-Wan duel, and Anakin actually goes off screen before he turns to the Dark side. Since Anakin is my main character, that is not going to work very well.


<div> Will you have surprises in your new PT? Will it affect anything that we thought we already knew in the OT? Be careful, you will most likely just tick people off, unless it is done EXTREMELY well.</div>


I don't know if anything I bring to the table will be considered such a surprise.


<div> How does the Jedi/Dark Jedi/Sith conflict play into the back story of the War, if at all?</div>

It's important. The Jedi are convinced the Sith are extinct, and end up on a wild bantha chase because of this assumption. Little do they suspect...and when they finally realize, they are already at a disadvantage.


<div> If it does, then how does the Galaxy allow for a Dark Jedi/Sith/Palpatine to be left in charge of the Empire when all is said and done?</div>


Because he holds power as the Executive of the government of the Republic turned into the Empire. I doubt many people in government realize that he is a Sith lord, or even that he is a Force user, and those who do are too concerned with saving their own hides to challenge him.

<div> How many Jedi are we talking about here? A handful like the OT? Two-three handfuls like the GPT? Or a lot a lot?</div>


The Jedi order is, at start, big. Likely several hundred or even thousand. Of course, the Clone Wars will cull their numbers quite considerably.


<div> How many Dark Jedi/Sith? Please say not 2 per movie.</div>

2 in total over the trilogy.


<div> What kind of powers do the Jedi/Dark Jedi/Sith have beyond those seen in the OT? </div>


I can't see that I'm giving them any new ones, though I have been thinking about battle meditation. The thing is that in theory a Jedi could become extremely powerful. Many feel that The Force Unleashed-style is way OTT, but in principle, it's the consequence of Yoda's words "only in your mind it is different". So, a good story needs to manage that principle without delivering something that looks just ridiculously godlike.


<div> What is the Galaxy's general response to Jedi? Are they all assumed to be heroes? Or are people more like Han where they think that it's all religious nonsense?</div>


Actually, none of the above. I think most take them seriously as wielders of great power, but I also think that most are incredibly suspicious of them. They wield powers that no non-force user can understand, and no one can really control them, certainly not the Republic government. So, they're really creepy wizards, who go where they please and do things based on "a hunch" or something like that, and can't be held accountable. Palpatine will be able to exploit this distrust extensively.


<div> How do your Jedi dress? (Please say it's not in "I'm disguised as a hermit" robes.)</div>

It's the Obi-Wan robes. Sorry. They're just iconic and fit the manifestation of a Shaolin-monk-in-space very well.


<div> How organized are the Jedi? Are they like a police force in space (like the Green Lantern Corps?) or are they more like wizards that are off doing their own thing and maybe have some form or correspondance or a council every now and then? Or something less than that?</div>

They are kind of like the Knights Templar meets the Shaolin monks, except there's only the one temple (with hyperspace travel, there little need for more than one).


<div>Where does the Empire come from? From within the crumbling Republic or without? If from within, are the forces that cause the crumbling also responsible for the War and are they manipulating to create an Empire as in George's PT?</div>

Yup. It's a false flag operation, all right. Palpatine=Hitler/Napoleon/Augustus...


<div>How do the droids fit in to your new story, if at all?</div>
<div> Probably shouldn't have strong connections to Anakin or Obi-Wan (i.e. The "main characters")</div>


What droids? No, really, I couldn't find a way to fit them in, even though I know Lucas wants them to be the "Greek Choir" of his epic saga. I'm not going to squeeze them in shoe-horn style just to have them there. That said, if I can find a way to incorporate them without creating some serious continuity problems, I will.


<div>How is Anakin seduced by the Dark Side? What convinces him to serve the Emperor, the Empire and the Dark Side for 20+ years before allowing Luke to show him the error of his ways.</div>


Anakin is set on it through the path of good intentions. But once you get a taste of it, you're stuck. I treat the Dark side like a drug, Anakin like an addict, and the Emperor like his dealer.


<div>Who is the main protagonist in your films? Luke is clearly the main protagonist in the OT. In my opinion, the gPT has problems because the protagonist changed with the movie billing: E1 - QuiGonn Jinn, E2 - Obi-Wan Kenobi, E3 - Anakin.</div>
<div>- I clearly think that Anakin should be the main protagonist as a point of comparison that Luke is the protagonist of the OT. However, I am running into trouble, probably the same way George did, because I have Obi-Wan finding Anakin. In the OT, Luke finds Obi-Wan. This right off the bat seems to set up Obi-Wan as the character making choices, making things happen, driving the story... AKA the Protagonist.</div>

My protagonist at this stage is Anakin, though I also wrestle with the dilemma of Obi-Wan as the finder of Anakin in Ep 1.

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Here some ideas for re-edit (not re-write) the Prequels. I hope that this points solved some of the questions of the main message:

 

* At Ep1, Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon are both Jedi Knights and friends (not Master and Padawan). Both have been trained by Yoda.

* Not remove Jar-Jar Binks, but edit about 50% of his dialogues. Removed some scenes of the Gungan Battle.

* Maul is presented by Sidious as "Darth Vader" (that meaning "Emperor's Right Hand"). In some moment, we discover that Maul was a Jedi Apprentice that became to the Dark Side.

* Remove the scene of Anakin testing the Podracer. When Qui-Gon says: "I didn't actually come here to free slaves", the scene passes to Qui-Gon and Anakin watching the stars.

* When the droid army is destroyed, Maul (a.k.a. Vader) escapes. Qui-Gon is killed by Maul, but Obi-Wan not kills Maul.

* At Ep2, Dooku is replaced by Tarkin. The Clone Wars are the same, with no changes (only Dooku by Tarkin). Tarkin is allied with Palpatine all the time, but we only know this at the end of the Ep3: when Palpatine and Tarkin apparently sign the end of the clone war and the rise of the Empire, with Palpatine as the Emperor and Tarkin as the Main Governor.

* In Tatooine, when R2 reports the Obi-Wan's message from Geonosis, Anakin says to the Lars family: "Now the galaxy needs me. Maybe we can stop a war". And Ower says: "Don't go Anakin, forget that idealistic crusade. You have a home here". But Anakin will go.

* At the end of Ep2, Maul (a.k.a. Vader) returns and fights with Yoda at the end of the movie, and escapes too.

* Removed General Grievous and Anakin's Dream. Anakin goes to the Dark Side by lust of power (for example, command all the Republic Fleet) and by the wish of training his son in the Force ways (that is forbidden by the Jedi Council, like the marriage)

* At Ep3, Palpatine seduces Anakin and ask to fill the position of Maul. In this point, Anakin's intentions are not clear: Anakin saves Palpatine from the Jedi Council, but not joins him.

* Maul (a.k.a. Vader) leads the Clone Army in the Jedi Temple Battle, to destroy the Jedi Knights. Anakin and Obi-Wan go to fight him, apparently to save the Jedi, but Anakin starts to use the anger to fight Maul. In this point, Anakin is removed from Obi-Wan, in the face of Obi-Wan's wishes to stop the Anakin's anger.

* In the duel, Maul (a.k.a. Vader) apparently defeats Anakin, but the resolution of the duel is not seen. We only see Obi-Wan regretting what happened, and fleeing with Padme.

At Ep5, we discover that Anakin defeated Maul and he converts in Darth Vader or the Emperor's Right Hand.

 

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I was going to make the empress of the clone legions invading the Republic turn out to be Anakin's half-sister. I was trying to make that revelation my prequel trilogy's equivalent of ESB's "I am your father" moment. But then I dropped the idea of re-writing the prequels altogether.

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I decided it was time for me to fill this out now that I'm planning on eventually creating a new rewrite, so here it is. If I'm unclear on anything, please inform me and I'll do my best to clarify it for you.

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Are you focusing on the Clone Wars?

Yes, I will with the first two episodes. The Third Clone War, specifically.

Who are the Clones?

The clones are the warriors of Atha Prime, the head clonemaster of Spaarti Creations. Originally created to serve as soldiers in the Republic Army in battle against the Separatist droid army during the Second Clone War, when Atha Prime turned rogue he activated dormant subliminal commands planted in the minds of the clone warriors, aligning them to his cause against his former allies.

How does the War pertain to them?

The clones are genetically augmented and mentally conditioned to serve as unquestioning foot soldiers and cannon fodder for the clonemasters against their enemies. They have little to no will or personalities or their own.

What about the Clone Wars would cause Obi-Wan to refer to them as an "idealistic crusade"? What were the ideals? How was it a crusade?

Atha Prime has a vision of creating a vast empire based on the ethics of forced eugenics, bioengineering, and genetic purity. It's not hard to see why Jedi like Obi-Wan would want to crusade against someone like that.

How does Cloning become irrelevant by the start of Episode 4?

Following the end of the Clone Wars, the Senate passes a motion making cloning illegal. Palpatine obviously disregards this law for his own purposes, but for the more common citizens of the galaxy, cloning is largely unavailable and far too expensive to take advantage of.

How is cloning limited to the point that the whole story doesn't get consumed by the idea of clones replacing major players?

This is a hard question to answer. If the bad guys don't have any sample of your DNA on hand, then you're in the clear. If they do, though ... who can say? It's not a question I can easily answer. It'd be an interesting venue to explore in a peripheral story, though.

Is the War 'Symmetrical' (i.e. WWII) or is it 'Asymmetrical' (i.e. Iraq War or the OT Empire vs Rebellion)

Symmetrical, more-or-less.

Does your story feature "soldiers"? Who are they? Are the main characters soldiers in the War? Leia's and Ben's comments seem to indicate that they were.

Both Anakin and Ben serve with the Empire (yes, Empire, not Republic; more on that later) against the Spaarti clone warriors, but for the sake of my story, I won't be dwelling on that aspect of their lives very much in my PT, at least not with Ep. II. Bail Organa also shows up as a soldier for the Empire in Ep. I.

Who are the armies? Does the Republic have its own army, or do each of the independent planets have their own armies? Who is the enemy large enough that this is a full scale war?

The Empire has its own army, but various independent planets do possess their own personal armies. They are, obviously, at war with the Spaarti clone army. Of course, there are a number of other - lesser - foes the Empire has to deal with, like the Mandalorian remnant which survived the First Clone War.

What are the objectives of both sides in the War? What are they fighting over?

Atha Prime is fighting a war of conquest, striving to wrest control away from the Empire and take his place as Emperor, hoping to shape the peoples of the galaxy through selective breeding and genetic cleansings. The Empire, of course, is against this.

When did/does the War start?

If we're referring to the Third Clone War alone, then it began in 54 BBY, fourteen years before Ep. I. If we're referring to all the Clone Wars together, then they began in 78 BBY.

How does the War end?
I imagine the Empire slowly but surely wears away at Prime's forces until they just fall apart and are annihilated. As I'm not going to concentrate on the Clone Wars themselves, the final battle(s) will occur offscreen, months after Ep. II.

Do you show Obi-Wan receiving training from Yoda?

No. Obi-Wan will have finished his training and attained Knighthood by the time of Ep. I.

Do you show Anakin receiving training from Obi-Wan?

Yes, to a degree. Most of Anakin's tutelage will occur between Eps. I & II, though.

Are Obi-Wan and Anakin friends? When do they have the chance to establish this friendship

Yes, they are friends. Their friendship will be developed over the course of Ep. I and be fully established by Ep. II, where it will begin to fall apart as Anakin is drawn towards the dark side.

How many years before Episode 4 does your story take place and how old are the main characters?

Ep. I will take place in 40 BBY, Ep. II in 35 BBY, and Ep. III 19-18 BBY. Obi-Wan will be twenty in Ep. I, twenty-five in Ep. II, and fourty-one-to-fourty-two by Ep. III; Anakin will be fifteen in Ep. I, twenty in Ep. II, and thirty-six-to-thirty-seven in Ep. III; Nashira (Anakin's eventual wife) will be eleven in Ep. I, sixteen in Ep. II, and thirty-two-to-thirty-three in Ep. III.

Will you show Yoda?

In my story, Yoda has been in self-imposed exile on Dagobah for over a hundred years, so he will not be a major supporting character and will not be present during Ep. I and Ep. II. I will show him briefly, at the end of Ep. III, but he will not be referred to by name.

Will you show that Luke has a twin sister? Named Leia?

I may show that Luke has a twin, but I won't identify her as Leia or even specify her gender.

Will you reveal that Anakin becomes Darth Vader?

Yes, but in an ambiguous way. More on this below.

If not, how will you protect this surprise? It must be some way that when the viewer sees Darth Vader in ANH, that he doesn't assume or even begin to wonder if that is Anakin under there.

We will see Anakin fall into a molten pit, we will see him crawl out, and we will see Palpatine collect him and eventually have him rebuilt as a cyborg, but his face will never be clearly seen by this point and his name never mentioned. To elaborate, read the below.

Will you employ the "Other Apprentice" ruse? That suggests that Obi-Wan had an apprentice named Darth Vader that turned to the Dark Side and killed Anakin?

Yes, I will. In my story, during Ep. II, after Anakin has left for the dark side, Obi-Wan gets swept up in a battle on another planet. During that battle, an infant child named Darth Vader is orphaned and Obi-Wan, recognizing the child's potential in the Force, decides to become his guardian and raise him as a Jedi. Eventually Darth grows up, and proves himself to be a skilled apprentice. However, Darth also has the misfortune of being both insecure in his own abilities and emotional, and this proves to be his undoing once Anakin resurfaces as the Dark Lord of the Sith. Anakin, seeing that Darth has the potential to become a powerful acolyte in his restored Sith Brotherhood, begins to tempt the Jedi apprentice with promises of proving himself and realizing his full potential through acceptance of the dark side. In the end, Darth is swayed by Anakin's words and his joins the Sith. Eventually, Anakin and Darth confront Obi-Wan on the volcanic world of Sullust, where they engage him in battle. As Anakin wounds Obi-Wan and prepares to kill the Jedi, though, Darth turns on Anakin, and slices the Dark Lord's sword arm off to save his foster father. Enraged, Anakin calls one of Darth's two lightsabers to his remaining hand, and they engage in a duel. At the end, though, seismic activity causes the cliff they're battling on to break apart, and Anakin and Darth both plunge into the magma below. Anakin forms a protective barrier to protect himself from the intense heat, and he survives, but is horribly wounded and suffers brain damage, resulting in partial amnesia. By the time he is reborn as the armoured cyborg, he has forgotten more than half the details of his life, and believes that he himself is Darth Vader, not Anakin Skywalker. Vader does eventually regain his lost memories, but that is later on in the timeline, years after Ep. III but long before Ep. IV.

Will you have surprises in your new PT? Will it affect anything that we thought we already knew in the OT? Be careful, you will most likely just tick people off, unless it is done EXTREMELY well.

I going to switch things up a bit in regards to where Luke is taken to be raised following his birth. In my story, when Obi-Wan and Nashira decide to seperate the twins and raise them on seperate worlds, it's decided that Luke will be taken to be raised by Yoda on Dagobah, not by Owen and Beru on Tatooine. Luke is transferred to Tatooine three years after Ep. III, when an Imperial Inquisitor - a Dark Jedi tasked with seeking out hidden Jedi for recruitment/execution by the Emperor - arrives on the swamp planet and discovers the two Jedi living there with their young charge. After a short yet fierce battle, the Inquisitor flees Dagobah, seeking to report his find to his masters. Believing that time is short, it is decided that Obi-Wan should take Luke to Tatooine and place him in the care of his aunt and uncle, leaving Yoda to stand against the Empire alone. So Obi-Wan leaves in his ship for the desert planet, believing he is leaving his master behind to face annihilation. Unbeknownst to either Jedi, though, is that the Dark Jedi was slain by another rival Inquisitor before his could report his find.


How does the Jedi/Dark Jedi/Sith conflict play into the back story of the War, if at all?


It doesn't, really. Various Dark Jedi individuals/factions end up involved in the wars for various reasons, but none of them are the cause of it. Dooku - or Doku, as I call him my canon - is the leader of the Separatists and the adversary of the Republic during the Second Clone War, but that war occurs a long time prior to my PT and plays no part in my story here.

If it doesn't, then how does Anakin end up falling to the Dark Side and becoming Dark Lord of the Sith?

For some reason or another, Obi-Wan and Anakin end up getting stranded on a deserted planet that once was ruled by a Sith sorceress. While exploring the Sith ruins of that planet, the spirit of the sorceress is awakened, and she attacks the two Jedi. The ghost shows them a series of visions, first of the past, during the golden age of the ancient Sith Empire, of the awesome power of the Sith Lords, or their grandeur, and of the peace and prosperity they brought to their subjects, but then she shows them a vision of future where an unstoppable army of Dark Jedi led by a powerful dark side sorceror rises to power and brings the Empire to its knees, ushering in an era of pain and misery under the heels of a brutal magocracy. After the visions end and the Sith spirit dissipates, Anakin comes to believe that only the power once weilded by the ancient Sith can counter and defeat the might of this prophesied dark side army. So it is, after the two Jedi find their way off the planet and after Obi-Wan fails to assuage his fears, Anakin leaves the Jedi and plots a course to the empty worlds of the fallen Sith Empire. Anakin eventually makes his way to Korriban, the ancient tombworld of the Sith, and it is there, within the tombs of the ancient Dark Lords, he entreats them for their aid. The Sith spirits awaken and, after forcing Anakin through a trial by fire, agree to bestow their knowledge on him and crown him the new Dark Lord of the Sith.

If it does, then how does the Galaxy allow for a Dark Jedi/Sith/Palpatine to be left in charge of the Empire when all is said and done?

Easy - they don't know. And, even if they did know, who's to say they could do anything about the situation?

How many Jedi are we talking about here? A handful like the OT? Two-three handfuls like the GPT? Or a lot a lot?

Prior to the Clone Wars, there were enough Jedi in the galaxy to serve as peacekeepers for the Republic, which consisted of about a million worlds. I'm no mathematician, but I assume such a peacekeeping force would have to number in the billions at the least in order to provide adequate protection. During the Clone Wars, though, many Jedi were killed, with entire Jedi sects wiped out, so that, by the end, there weren't nearly that many Jedi left. Following the Great Jedi Purge, most of the Jedi who didn't fall to the dark side and join the Empire were slain, leaving only ten thousand survivors who went into hiding.

How many Dark Jedi/Sith? Please say not 2 per movie.

There are numerous Dark Jedi, but their numbers aren't nearly as large as that of the light side Jedi - only millions at the most.

As for the Sith ... Since I'm taking the Tales of the Jedi comics and other closely-related material as canon in my universe, I'm going with the idea that the Sith were driven to near-extinction following the Great Hyperspace War and the Great Sith War. After Exar Kun, the Dark Lord who initiated the Sith War, was defeated, the most of the few remaining Sith in the galaxy either turned away from the dark side or were discovered and wiped out by the Jedi. By the time of the Clone Wars, the Sith were little more than an ancient, half-remembered memory, their mighty temples and palaces ruins, and their heirs usually little more than primitive shamans on backwater worlds. So, when Anakin becomes the Dark Lord of the Sith, he becomes the first Dark Lord since the time of Exar Kun and the first real Sith in thousands of years. The Sith spirits on Korriban charge Anakin with seeking out and uniting the remnants of the Sith for the next several years in between Eps. II & III, and he eventually forms a new - but small - Brotherhood of the Sith consisting of only a few dozen members.

What kind of powers do the Jedi/Dark Jedi/Sith have beyond those seen in the OT?

I imagine that, in the thousands of years following the events in the Tales of the Jedi comics, the Jedi lost many of the powers that were once available to them. So, where they once had the power to cut darksiders off from the Force and direct large armies through battle meditation, they were now limited largely to powers like telekinesis, precognition, and similar powers - the more fundamentalist sects weren't even capable of ascending their physical bodies into the Force like their ancient forebears once could. As for the Sith and Dark Jedi - they pretty much have the exact same powers shown in the films and EU, such as firing non-Force lightning-based energy blasts from their hands and modifying lifeforms through the dark side of the Force.

What is the Galaxy's general response to Jedi? Are they all assumed to be heroes? Or are people more like Han where they think that it's all religious nonsense?

That depends on a number of factors. First of all, there are a number of different Jedi sects and denominations; the more liberal/less legalistic Jedi are looked upon fondly, while the ultra-conservative/fundamentalist Jedi are seen as self-important elitists at best and evil child-snatching cultists at worst. Also, opinions vary depending on location; Jedi are common place within the inner rim and core worlds of the galaxy, so individuals there tend to see them as demigods/genetic supermen, but there are fewer Jedi located in the mid and outer rims, where the Jedi tend to be viewed by the people more as parlour magicians in possession of sophisticated technology or just highly trained warriors with no special powers or abilities.

How do your Jedi dress? (Please say it's not in "I'm disguised as a hermit" robes.)

That depends on the Jedi. The Jedi of the largest sect tend to wear dark brown-and-black robes and cloaks (think of some of the TPM concept art by Doug Chiang), while other Jedi denominations may follow a different dress code, or no dress code at all. Freelance/non-denominational Jedi - such as Anakin and Obi-Wan - follow no dress code and tend to dress casually.

How organized are the Jedi? Are they like a police force in space (like the Green Lantern Corps?) or are they more like wizards that are off doing their own thing and maybe have some form or correspondance or a council every now and then? Or something less than that?

Again, that depends on the sect/denomination/individual. The largest sect acts more like a police force, while other, lesser sects go along the spectrum in regards to hierarchy and organization.

Where does the Empire come from? From within the crumbling Republic or without? If from within, are the forces that cause the crumbling also responsible for the War and are they manipulating to create an Empire as in George's PT?

The Empire was formed prior to the events of my PT, at the end of the Second Clone War. My backstory goes that, as the Second Clone War drew on, politicians with ties and loyalties to the military rose to positions of influence within the Republic and many were elected into the Senate, driving the Republic to become more militaristic. When the Separatists were defeated and the Second Clone War ended, the militarization of the Republic reached its peak, and it was reformed into the Galactic Empire, with Cos Dashit - a very skilled admiral in the Republic navy who had proven himself a master strategist in battle and a skilled leader - becoming the first Emperor. At this point the Empire was a rather cold entity and far from the benificient organization that was the old preceeding Republic, but it would only become the tyrannical, dominating regime it was shown to be in the OT and EU after Palpatine rose to power.

How do the droids fit in to your new story, if at all?

I'd be giving them brief cameos in each of the episodes, and nothing more. I'd like to give them supporting roles like that in the OT, but I wouldn't know how to do that without having them interact with the main characters, which I do not want to do.

How is Anakin seduced by the Dark Side? What convinces him to serve the Emperor, the Empire and the Dark Side for 20+ years before allowing Luke to show him the error of his ways.

I've already described how he was seduced to the dark side. As for how he fell under Palpatine's sway ... In the years between Eps. II & III, Anakin served the ghosts of the long-dead Dark Lords faithfully, fulfilling each of their every whims to the best of his ability, all because they had promised to give him the knowledge and power of the dark side they possessed to keep that foreseen dark army from rising to power. As the years went on, though, the Sith continued to hold back, giving Anakin only bits and pieces of knowledge in the dark arts, but not nearly enough to counter the threat he knew was coming, so he eventually grew dissatisfied and impatient with the Sith spirits.

In time, the Sith spirits declared to Anakin that the resurrection of the Sith Brotherhood was at hand, but there was a obstacle in their path which served as a threat to their plans - Palpatine, the President of the Imperial Senate, who was, in fact, the dark sorceror Anakin had seen in his vision. Tasking Anakin with the duty of assassinating Palpatinet, the ancient Sith spirits sent him off to Coruscant, promising that went the time came they would aid him in battle against the President. Anakin penetrated the Senate building and entered Palpatine's office, where he engaged and easily defeated the President's Jedi bodyguards. He was no match for Palpatine, however, and was soon defeated, unaided by the Sith ghosts who had promised him their aid. Palpatine then revealed that he knew who Anakin was and why he was sent to kill him, and that the Sith had tricked Anakin - they weren't going to aid him in his quest to stop the dark side army from coming to power; in fact, they were trying to create it - a corrupted Jedi Order led by Anakin himself in a crusade to resurrect and restore the Sith Empire. With that, Palpatine offers Anakin to join him, to aid him against the Jedi should they fall and become a threat, to keep the Empire from falling the Sith. Anakin accepts, and becomes his servant and apprentice.

Who is the main protagonist in your films? Luke is clearly the main protagonist in the OT. In my opinion, the gPT has problems because the protagonist changed with the movie billing: E1 - QuiGonn Jinn, E2 - Obi-Wan Kenobi, E3 - Anakin.

I'm thinking Obi-Wan, but Ep. II may gravitate towards being more Anakin-centric.