Here's my estimation
40% - The Prequel Trilogy's approval rating among OT fans.
80% - The highest approval rating the Prequels could have had among OT fans after leaving up to speculation for 16 years.
60% - The highest approval rating any attempt to "redo" the Prequels after 10ish years of "what they shoulda done"s.
What do you think?
IT'S MY TRILOGY, AND I WANT IT NOW!
"[George Lucas] rebooted the franchise in 1997 without telling anyone." -skyjedi2005
"Yeah, well, George says a lot of things..." a young 1997 xhonzi on RASSM
"They're my movies." -George Lucas. 19 people won oscars for their work on Star Wars (1977) and George Lucas wasn't one of them.
IMDB has ratings:
TPM: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120915/ratings
AotC: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0121765/ratings
RotS: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0121766/ratings
Not quite your categories but you could speculate some of your categories into these numbers. But the overall analysis (PT+OT) is TPM: 6.4, AotC: 6.8, RotS: 7.9
Judging by the age analysis on IMDB, minus 2-4 tenths for the OTcom age bracket.
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How on earth does RotS have a 7.9?
Lower expectations bring higher ratings.
It was better the first time, I swear!
A Goon in a Gaggle of 'em
I refuse to believe the numbers are that high. Gentlemen (and ladies) we have some work to do.
I'm more interested in the other numbers, though. Let's shift my target group from OT fans to OT.com members. Is that sounding more accurate?
My thought was simply that those of us who don't like the Prequels at all, probably are truly insatiable. I guesses 80% of us would approve of the best version of the Prequels and that 60% is the highest approval you could get with a remake. As much as I'd like to see a remake, I don't think it would be worth the time (fan's approval wise) no matter how perfect it could be.
That's all I was trying to say.
IT'S MY TRILOGY, AND I WANT IT NOW!
"[George Lucas] rebooted the franchise in 1997 without telling anyone." -skyjedi2005
"Yeah, well, George says a lot of things..." a young 1997 xhonzi on RASSM
"They're my movies." -George Lucas. 19 people won oscars for their work on Star Wars (1977) and George Lucas wasn't one of them.
imdb's rarings often bewilder me. Shit films get good ratings. Great fims get bad ratings. But I don't think imdb's ratings necessarily accurately represent the views of the public out there on the street.
And yeah ROTS getting a 7.9 is ridiculous. The critics were dumb on that one too -too many of them thought the film was good. Though you did get some more accurate reviews, such as in Rolling Stone. ROTS was a masterpiece of making little out of much, making crap out of good material, and it's so bad in so many ways that I can only come to the conclusion that a lot of effort was put into making it so bad. For sheer lameness it has most movies beat. Think of some of the stuff in it -Yoda vs Sidious, the Sidious overacting, Annie vs Kenobi on Mustardfart, moronic lame Padme, Annie coming off like he goes dark because he's too dumb to know better, General Grievous, awful romance bits between Annie and Padme, Yoda strking macho poses, stupid annoying jedi get wiped out and it's supposed to be tragic and you go "It's about time, the wankers.", not to mention "You underestimate my POWERRR!!", "I hate you!!", "Noooooooo!", etc.
I think one of the reasons the film got better reviews was the political posturing that was in it. That made it to some degree "clever" in the eyes of some critics. Lucas got points for being politically "relevant". Another thing is I think some people took the big epic tragic storyline at face value. Yes there's this big epic tragic thing in it, but it has no emotional depth and thus doesn't really count for anything in the end result. But I think some people figured that if it had this epic-tragic thing then it must have the emotional resonance that must go with that, and thus they read into the film feeling and depth that wasn't actually there. Personally I think that big epic tragic element makes the film worse, because it means there was more in the material that could be made into something good and the fact that Lucas made so little of it is even worse than with a storyline of less substance like AOTC's.
Still, when all's said and done, the prequels as a whole are looked down on as failures.
none said:IMDB has ratings:
TPM: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120915/ratings
AotC: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0121765/ratings
RotS: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0121766/ratings
Not quite your categories but you could speculate some of your categories into these numbers. But the overall analysis (PT+OT) is TPM: 6.4, AotC: 6.8, RotS: 7.9
Judging by the age analysis on IMDB, minus 2-4 tenths for the OTcom age bracket.
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If you're judging OT.Com people you have a lot more difference from those ratings than 2-4 tenths. And those imdb ratings include a lot of people who'd be prequel fans first before any other Star Wars. So I don't see how you could get OT fan numbers out of that, let alone OT.com numbers. And it's very evident that the general public out there does not rate the films anywhere near as highly as those imdb ratings. Among younger people who've yet to grow out of them and among the lick-Lucas's-arse type of "fan" they're more highly rated, but the general public includes a wide range of age groups and interest types.
One of the things that gets me about ROTS is the pomposity of the film. The film is so fucking full of itself and its supposed significance. This is worst in the Mustardfart duel scene, which really beats you over the head with its supposed significance. The part where Vader gets suited up and rises up has too much of that too, not improved by the addition of Vader wailing "Noooooo!" like an awful wuss. The political pretensions of the film are also a symptom of its bloated idea of itself.
Excellent topic, guys. I have to admit, I've thought about it quite a bit myself. I've put my treatment for a re-write here: http://kinoflim.blogspot.com/2012/02/alternate-star-wars-prequels-first.html
I'd love any feedback.
Thanko.