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Possessed Return of the Jedi-* Resurrected!!* — Page 17

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Do you make contributions or just weird random comments?

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In his defense I think that’s only the third time that joke has been made in this thread. But I’d be being a hypocrite if I got bent out of shape over an off topic post.

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Just curious if anybody would be interested in making subtitles for this edit once I’m done? I don’t mean the alien subtitles as I will be burning those in as best as I can how they were theatrically, I mean just regular subtitles. For some reason I can’t get the editor I’m using to keep them in sync with the stream as I’m editing. I’m way too lazy to do something that tedious, so I was just wondering if somebody would be interested in helping out. If not, then it will just have to go without.

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https://vimeo.com/216104567

Brief preview/draft clip of a short portion of jabba’s palace.

Notable cuts:

Cut down/removed crowd laughter. Not opposed to the concept just don’t like the execution because I hate salacious crumb.

Only very first part of music sequence is heard, no jedi rocks or lapti nek. Used some ideas from darthrush for the droid torture scene.

Leah and Jabba no longer argue about the price of chewbacca. Mainly just because I hated the crowd reaction shots.

Various other cuts for tone.

Technically speaking I think the cuts are very smooth, but as for watching it all back to back I’m not sure. Some things feel a little awkward, but I can’t tell if it’s because I know so well what was originally there so it just naturally feels like something is missing because I know exactly what was removed. My main concern is that it feel seamless to somebody who has never seen the film before. I can’t tell what it would feel like if I hadn’t been watching this sequence unedited over and over again.

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I’m incredibly surprised that you left in the “Oh look! There’s Captain Solo!” line, but you cut out 3P0 wanting to leave early.

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snooker said:

I’m incredibly surprised that you left in the “Oh look! There’s Captain Solo!” line, but you cut out 3P0 wanting to leave early.

I cut out 3po wanting to leave early because I know it was supposed to be humorous to have him knock and then give up after less than a second, but I just thought it was annoying.

I had the “Captain Solo” line removed originally, but I put it back in because with the crowd laughter also removed it was much too quick of a scene change, and if I have to keep one the 3p0 line is much less annoying than salacious crumb.

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Well I’m having to start over again. I’ve been using womble to do the editing, but I’m going to have to leave it behind. I hate to do that because I love wombles extremely user friendly interface and I was able to make the seamless cuts I needed… Theoretically. The reason I’m giving up on it is because no matter what I do there is a very audible “pop” at cut points. It’s infuriating. Even if the fades and everything are set up to be seamless there’s still a big pop in the middle of the transition and while it doesn’t happen all the time when it does happen nothing I do will fix it. I hate it because I love wombles interface. So unless anybody knows a fix for that, I’m trying to get the hang of Adobe premiere. It’s a whole different world and I’m still trying to get the hang of it.

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Possessed said:

Well I’m having to start over again. I’ve been using womble to do the editing, but I’m going to have to leave it behind. I hate to do that because I love wombles extremely user friendly interface and I was able to make the seamless cuts I needed… Theoretically. The reason I’m giving up on it is because no matter what I do there is a very audible “pop” at cut points. It’s infuriating. Even if the fades and everything are set up to be seamless there’s still a big pop in the middle of the transition and while it doesn’t happen all the time when it does happen nothing I do will fix it. I hate it because I love wombles interface. So unless anybody knows a fix for that, I’m trying to get the hang of Adobe premiere. It’s a whole different world and I’m still trying to get the hang of it.

Yes but once you do, you will be a whole lot better off. I would also recommend you transcode all of your project footage to a non-lossey interm format. Will make you life a lot better. cc 2015 and 2017 support cineform . I highly recommend you start there. CC 2015 also supports DD multi channel audio support.

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Possessed said:

Well I’m having to start over again. I’ve been using womble to do the editing, but I’m going to have to leave it behind. I hate to do that because I love wombles extremely user friendly interface and I was able to make the seamless cuts I needed… Theoretically. The reason I’m giving up on it is because no matter what I do there is a very audible “pop” at cut points. It’s infuriating. Even if the fades and everything are set up to be seamless there’s still a big pop in the middle of the transition and while it doesn’t happen all the time when it does happen nothing I do will fix it. I hate it because I love wombles interface. So unless anybody knows a fix for that, I’m trying to get the hang of Adobe premiere. It’s a whole different world and I’m still trying to get the hang of it.

Good for you! I started with Wondershare (a piece of shit) cause of how easy it was (this was years back), then I realized it wasn’t good enough so I went to PowerDirector (less of a piece of shit), and then eventually I switched to Premiere and am so glad for doing so. You will definitely get the hang of it and it is well worth the time.

Return of the Jedi: Remastered

Lord of the Rings: The Darth Rush Definitives

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xxtelecine 7xx said:

Possessed said:

Well I’m having to start over again. I’ve been using womble to do the editing, but I’m going to have to leave it behind. I hate to do that because I love wombles extremely user friendly interface and I was able to make the seamless cuts I needed… Theoretically. The reason I’m giving up on it is because no matter what I do there is a very audible “pop” at cut points. It’s infuriating. Even if the fades and everything are set up to be seamless there’s still a big pop in the middle of the transition and while it doesn’t happen all the time when it does happen nothing I do will fix it. I hate it because I love wombles interface. So unless anybody knows a fix for that, I’m trying to get the hang of Adobe premiere. It’s a whole different world and I’m still trying to get the hang of it.

Yes but once you do, you will be a whole lot better off. I would also recommend you transcode all of your project footage to a non-lossey interm format. Will make you life a lot better. cc 2015 and 2017 support cineform . I highly recommend you start there. CC 2015 also supports DD multi channel audio support.

Well even womble supported 5.1 so I’m not worried about that. I will probably edit in 5.1 using six mono wavs sourced from the dts track, then export as 640 kbps DD ac3. (I think that would have less quality loss than using DD as a starting point.

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Possessed said:

xxtelecine 7xx said:

Possessed said:

Well I’m having to start over again. I’ve been using womble to do the editing, but I’m going to have to leave it behind. I hate to do that because I love wombles extremely user friendly interface and I was able to make the seamless cuts I needed… Theoretically. The reason I’m giving up on it is because no matter what I do there is a very audible “pop” at cut points. It’s infuriating. Even if the fades and everything are set up to be seamless there’s still a big pop in the middle of the transition and while it doesn’t happen all the time when it does happen nothing I do will fix it. I hate it because I love wombles interface. So unless anybody knows a fix for that, I’m trying to get the hang of Adobe premiere. It’s a whole different world and I’m still trying to get the hang of it.

Yes but once you do, you will be a whole lot better off. I would also recommend you transcode all of your project footage to a non-lossey interm format. Will make you life a lot better. cc 2015 and 2017 support cineform . I highly recommend you start there. CC 2015 also supports DD multi channel audio support.

Well even womble supported 5.1 so I’m not worried about that. I will probably edit in 5.1 using six mono wavs sourced from the dts track, then export as 640 kbps DD ac3. (I think that would have less quality loss than using DD as a starting point.

not if you convert it to wav end output to PCM.

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Yes it will because DD is more compressed than DTS to begin with so since it will have to be compressed again for the end product it makes sense to use the less compressed audio as the starting point, no?

I still haven’t fully decided if I’m even going with full 5.1 anyway. I might stick with dolby surround to make things simpler. Also That way recompresses will be less damaging as each channel will have more bitrate afforded it, and it will still upmix properly.

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Just posting to say this isn’t dead. Still working. Couldn’t get the hang of any editors, so I’m going back to womble. Accidentally discovered that the problem with the pops at cut points doesn’t happen if I work with elementary streams as opposed to an already muxed file. Sortof a bummer, because before I had all the different sound mixes (some with the center channel muted to use for transitions without dialogue) I wanted synced up and muxed together so that I could switch between audio mixes at any time with zero effort and it would already be in the correct place for sync in the timeline. I may see if I could still do this with a dummy video track and just use an elementary stream for the video and see if that will still fix it. If not I’ll just go all elementary and it will just be more of a pain.

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Possessed said:

Yes it will because DD is more compressed than DTS to begin with so since it will have to be compressed again for the end product it makes sense to use the less compressed audio as the starting point, no?

I still haven’t fully decided if I’m even going with full 5.1 anyway. I might stick with dolby surround to make things simpler. Also That way recompresses will be less damaging as each channel will have more bitrate afforded it, and it will still upmix properly.

Right but what I am trying to point out, you wont loose anything if you convert the DTS to 5.1 or 7.1 PCM. Then Master it to PCM. (Blu ray) Sure it will take up more space but at least your not loosing anything. (PCM) (WAV) is lossless.

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I’m aware that pcm is lossless but 5.1 pcm is huge overkill. 640 kbps ac3 is enough for a movie I think. Music is the only time lossless matters to me.

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Possessed said:

I’m aware that pcm is lossless but 5.1 pcm is huge overkill. 640 kbps ac3 is enough for a movie I think. Music is the only time lossless matters to me.

Audio is Audio my friend. My theater speaker setup is high end and believe me I can here the difference with double encoded Dolby Digital.

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I’m not using dolby as a starting point, I’m using the matter dts track and only encoding to dolby at the end.

I’m not a fool when it comes to audio. On your a new hope edit (which was visually very nice btw) in order to watch it I even had to replace all of your audio because for some reason with your high end setup you still decided to stick with the 2011 sound mix and it sounds horrible. =P (Because of the mix not because of you)

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It’s Leia, not Leah!

As for replacing Hayden’s Anakin being obvious, to me, leaving him seems way more logical, as it’s what Anakin actually looked like, as opposed to some random guy who sorta resembles an unmasked Vader.

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You’re right about the spelling, but Hayden will not be in this.