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Well, considering how the "long live" cheer is usually used for inanimate objects ("Vive le France" --> "Long live France") and the like, I don't see why it's a problem to use it on a dead man. Especially since I'm being more figurative than literal. I want his scenes in the movie to live on, not the man himself, dingbat.
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Originally posted by: Bossk
Well, considering how the "long live" cheer is usually used for inanimate objects ("Vive le France" --> "Long live France") and the like, I don't see why it's a problem to use it on a dead man. Especially since I'm being more figurative than literal. I want his scenes in the movie to live on, not the man himself, dingbat.


Quite right Bossk.

It is even more often used in the case of a recently deceased monarch or figurehead.

"Le roi est mort. Vive le roi!" -- "The king is dead. Long live the king!"

In old England, when one monarch died a successor immediately took the throne. Hence the chant, “The king is dead—long live the king!”.

It signifies the continuance of the position regardless of the mortality of the holder. The man may be gone but the empire will live on.

"Sebastain Shaw is dead, long live Sebastian Shaw" is perfectly fine as we aren't advocating his immortality of his physical being through some bizarre Doktor Frankensteinesque resurrection of his bones as a reanimated zombie more the immortality of his celluloid presence rather than the abomination that is Hayden Christensen.

Clear enough now Jimbo?
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Well that's just typical Jimbo for ya. Since Georgey boy had a little beef with Shaw, so does Jimbo. Fuck em both I say.
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As to this whole thread, I think we're missing one shot in these new versions: the one where, after seeing Luke smile @ the Jedi ghosts, he looks closer and says, "OK, I know Yoda and I know Ben, but who the HELL are you?"

Princess Leia: I happen to like nice men.
Han Solo: I'm a nice man.

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Originally posted by: GundarkHunter
As to this whole thread, I think we're missing one shot in these new versions: the one where, after seeing Luke smile @ the Jedi ghosts, he looks closer and says, "OK, I know Yoda and I know Ben, but who the HELL are you?"


Perhaps it's an easter egg.

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...as we aren't advocating his immortality of his physical being through some bizarre Doktor Frankensteinesque resurrection of his bones as a reanimated zombie...


Funny you should say this, I was just watching Young Frankenstein the other day (damn fine flick) and I now have a theory that the real George Lucas died and was resurrected in 1996 but with the brain of Abby Normal.

Tell me that doesn't explain it all.
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Originally posted by: Zombie ChewbaccaI hate you, George Lucas.

We should not hate him for his mistakes, everyone makes mistakes. Some of these changes he approved of in the movies are totally wrong, but some are fine like the windows at cloud city. We should try to be nice about this, this is supposed to be an agreement between us and Lucas, and he might always say no just because of all this hate postings. He could be reading this right now. I dont hate him, but I hate these mistakes. Use the word hate wisely comrade.
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I don't hate Lucas, I feel sorry for him. Se is so unhappy with his films that he can't leave them alone...I think he has real emotional problems.
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Exactly, a simpering, senile old fool like Lucas is to be pitied, not hated.
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I'm just waiting for that to be reissued with a Hayden ghost figure. They've got a bunch of other new sets out already, so it's just a matter of time.

Princess Leia: I happen to like nice men.
Han Solo: I'm a nice man.

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I think we should just create a custom figure using the old Anakin Shaw figure body and have interchangeable heads. One second, you're playing with Anakin Shaw, the next, you're playing with Anakin Christenson. And the second head would come complete with that creepy sneer.
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But there would be multiple Shaw heads. One would be the unmasked one with eyebrows, one without eyebrows and the one from the original ghost scene...