Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo — Page 786

DominicCobb said:

Jay said:

DominicCobb said:

Frank your Majesty said:

Handman said:

Collipso said:

man, staring at someone and looking at the direction someone’s in is very clearly and very noticeably different.

How would you quantify that legally?

Who is talking about legal definitions? Wasn’t this 5-second-rule just part of a guideline to provide a rule of thumb? Why is everyone talking like this is a proposal for an actual law?

People love getting offended.

Especially by people staring at them.

If it’s a dispute between someone staring and someone being stared at, I’m definitely falling down on the side of the person being stared at. Didn’t know this was a controversial position to have. I thought everyone knew that staring is a weird and rude thing to do but guess not.

It is, but has been being talked about here is whether or not there ought to be a hard and fast rule that says you can’t look at someone for more than 5 seconds.

dahmage said:

I have been staring at this thread for about 60 seconds in pure agony.

three pages ago it was revealed (to no-ones surprise) that of course netflix HR did not create a rule about how long you can stare at someone.

the argument continues because it seems that some would be in favor of such an insane rule and act like five seconds = five minutes or “all day”

The irony is, i am sure the statement came about like this.

HR: “… and remember that staring at someone can be construed as harassment, we want to have a friendly and welcoming workplace.”
Man 1: “but i look around the office all the time, and like to see what is going on, when does it become too long?”
HR: (I can’t believe i have to explain this) “A good rule of thumb is probably 5 seconds, if you are looking at someone, but not engaging with them in any other way, then anything longer than 5 seconds is probably going to make the other person uncomfortable”

JEDIT: puggo posted at the same time.

I agree it is more reasonable as a rule of thumb, a guild line, but not a hard and fast rule.

thin line between bashful and creep?

Mrebo said:

There are bits of truth in everyone’s posts on the 5 second rule (some more than others, granted).

5 seconds of just staring at someone is a long time but if it were a rule it could be abused or lead to misunderstanding.

Mostly I agree with Jay and mfm that we live in a messed up culture that finds this kind of standard reasonable.

I think many people are increasingly rule-bound in their thinking and that’s a problem.

If any of you have sons, consider helping them show interest in girls in ways other than staring at them. It’s a thin line between bashful and creep.

I think it’s sad that we live in a messed up culture that still encourages victim blaming.

TV’s Frink said:

Mrebo said:

There are bits of truth in everyone’s posts on the 5 second rule (some more than others, granted).

5 seconds of just staring at someone is a long time but if it were a rule it could be abused or lead to misunderstanding.

Mostly I agree with Jay and mfm that we live in a messed up culture that finds this kind of standard reasonable.

I think many people are increasingly rule-bound in their thinking and that’s a problem.

If any of you have sons, consider helping them show interest in girls in ways other than staring at them. It’s a thin line between bashful and creep.

I think it’s sad that we live in a messed up culture that still encourages victim blaming.

oh ffs. Now because I think 5 seconds is to short a time, I’m victim blaming and/or encouraging victim blaming.

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

Mrebo said:

There are bits of truth in everyone’s posts on the 5 second rule (some more than others, granted).

5 seconds of just staring at someone is a long time but if it were a rule it could be abused or lead to misunderstanding.

Mostly I agree with Jay and mfm that we live in a messed up culture that finds this kind of standard reasonable.

I think many people are increasingly rule-bound in their thinking and that’s a problem.

If any of you have sons, consider helping them show interest in girls in ways other than staring at them. It’s a thin line between bashful and creep.

I think it’s sad that we live in a messed up culture that still encourages victim blaming.

oh ffs. Now because I think 5 seconds is to short a time, I’m victim blaming and/or encouraging victim blaming.

was that post about you?

dahmage said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

Mrebo said:

There are bits of truth in everyone’s posts on the 5 second rule (some more than others, granted).

5 seconds of just staring at someone is a long time but if it were a rule it could be abused or lead to misunderstanding.

Mostly I agree with Jay and mfm that we live in a messed up culture that finds this kind of standard reasonable.

I think many people are increasingly rule-bound in their thinking and that’s a problem.

If any of you have sons, consider helping them show interest in girls in ways other than staring at them. It’s a thin line between bashful and creep.

I think it’s sad that we live in a messed up culture that still encourages victim blaming.

oh ffs. Now because I think 5 seconds is to short a time, I’m victim blaming and/or encouraging victim blaming.

was that post about you?

I’m sure I was included.

Warbler said:

dahmage said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

Mrebo said:

There are bits of truth in everyone’s posts on the 5 second rule (some more than others, granted).

5 seconds of just staring at someone is a long time but if it were a rule it could be abused or lead to misunderstanding.

Mostly I agree with Jay and mfm that we live in a messed up culture that finds this kind of standard reasonable.

I think many people are increasingly rule-bound in their thinking and that’s a problem.

If any of you have sons, consider helping them show interest in girls in ways other than staring at them. It’s a thin line between bashful and creep.

I think it’s sad that we live in a messed up culture that still encourages victim blaming.

oh ffs. Now because I think 5 seconds is to short a time, I’m victim blaming and/or encouraging victim blaming.

was that post about you?

I’m sure I was included.

Okay.

https://deadspin.com/minnesota-uniteds-collin-martin-comes-out-as-gay-1827243688

Minnesota United midfielder Collin Martin became the only active openly gay man in American sports on Friday, coming out publicly with a message on Twitter and a very cool photo ahead of his team’s Pride Night game.

From the note:

“I have been out as a gay man for many years to my family and friends, and this includes my teammates. I have played Major League Soccer for 6 seasons: 4 seasons with DC United and 2 seasons with Minnesota United. Today, I’m proud that my entire team and the management of Minnesota United know that I am gay. I have received only kindness and acceptance from everyone in Major League Soccer and that has made the decision to come out publicly that much easier.”

While this is a cool story, he better hurry up if he wants to get married to another man.

Mrebo said:

TV’s Frink said:

https://deadspin.com/minnesota-uniteds-collin-martin-comes-out-as-gay-1827243688

Minnesota United midfielder Collin Martin became the only active openly gay man in American sports on Friday, coming out publicly with a message on Twitter and a very cool photo ahead of his team’s Pride Night game.

From the note:

“I have been out as a gay man for many years to my family and friends, and this includes my teammates. I have played Major League Soccer for 6 seasons: 4 seasons with DC United and 2 seasons with Minnesota United. Today, I’m proud that my entire team and the management of Minnesota United know that I am gay. I have received only kindness and acceptance from everyone in Major League Soccer and that has made the decision to come out publicly that much easier.”

While this is a cool story, he better hurry up if he wants to get married to another man.

Minnesota allowed gay marriage starting in 2013. I don’t see what would change that.

A Supreme Court, maybe.

State’s Rights Conservatives only give a shit about state’s rights when the state agrees with their position.

Mrebo said:

TV’s Frink said:

Mrebo said:

TV’s Frink said:

https://deadspin.com/minnesota-uniteds-collin-martin-comes-out-as-gay-1827243688

Minnesota United midfielder Collin Martin became the only active openly gay man in American sports on Friday, coming out publicly with a message on Twitter and a very cool photo ahead of his team’s Pride Night game.

From the note:

“I have been out as a gay man for many years to my family and friends, and this includes my teammates. I have played Major League Soccer for 6 seasons: 4 seasons with DC United and 2 seasons with Minnesota United. Today, I’m proud that my entire team and the management of Minnesota United know that I am gay. I have received only kindness and acceptance from everyone in Major League Soccer and that has made the decision to come out publicly that much easier.”

While this is a cool story, he better hurry up if he wants to get married to another man.

Minnesota allowed gay marriage starting in 2013. I don’t see what would change that.

A Supreme Court, maybe.

State’s Rights Conservatives only give a shit about state’s rights when the state agrees with their position.

Youre painting with an awfully broad brush. I don’t know who said what to make you think that.

In the case of gay marriage, he is not far from the truth. How else do you explain the defense of marriage act? Anyone who truly cared about states rights and the 10th amendment would have to oppose the act. Yet was it or was it not supported by many conservatives?

Mrebo said:

TV’s Frink said:

Mrebo said:

TV’s Frink said:

https://deadspin.com/minnesota-uniteds-collin-martin-comes-out-as-gay-1827243688

Minnesota United midfielder Collin Martin became the only active openly gay man in American sports on Friday, coming out publicly with a message on Twitter and a very cool photo ahead of his team’s Pride Night game.

From the note:

“I have been out as a gay man for many years to my family and friends, and this includes my teammates. I have played Major League Soccer for 6 seasons: 4 seasons with DC United and 2 seasons with Minnesota United. Today, I’m proud that my entire team and the management of Minnesota United know that I am gay. I have received only kindness and acceptance from everyone in Major League Soccer and that has made the decision to come out publicly that much easier.”

While this is a cool story, he better hurry up if he wants to get married to another man.

Minnesota allowed gay marriage starting in 2013. I don’t see what would change that.

A Supreme Court, maybe.

State’s Rights Conservatives only give a shit about state’s rights when the state agrees with their position.

Youre painting with an awfully broad brush. I don’t know who said what to make you think that.

Abortion, gay marriage, etc. It’s a broad brush but it does create an accurate painting.

Mrebo said:

DOMA did at least concern federal benefits that states don’t naturally have the authority over, so it wasn’t clearly a 10th Amendment violation.

It defined marriage as between a man and woman, something you, Ferris and many other states rights conservatives have repeatedly said was up to the states to decide. If gay marriage is truly up to the states to decide, I don’t know how you could justify a federal law that defines marriage. I think I even brought up federal benefits to argue that the feds had to have some say over marriage, I forget the argument that you and/or Ferris used against me. If it weren’t so hard to search this site, I’d try to find the conversation.

Of course, it was voted into law by most Democrats and signed by a Democratic president,

oops. *embarrassed emoticon*

moviefreakedmind said:

Libertarians and conservatives are only opposed to the federal government infringing on their rights.

“Their rights” being key.