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Mrebo said:

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Mrebo said:

Art is political, amigo 😉

How did I know this is where this was heading…

Might as well start talking about Trump in Random Thoughts then.

You brought it upon yourself. Better I get it out of my system now. Trump should be contained!

There’s a difference between discussing films from a political perspective and discussing films just in general (without regard to their politics). Only one of those should take place in this thread, otherwise you’re suggesting forum anarchy.

Cross-posted from the great beyond:

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/joke

Oh hai chyron.

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/paloma/daily-202/2018/03/08/daily-202-trump-reversal-of-elephant-trophy-ban-underscores-the-need-to-watch-what-he-does-not-what-he-says/5aa0b71a30fb047655a06b80/

If you don’t like President Trump’s position on a particular issue, just wait a day. It may change.

It’s always suspicious when a federal agency quietly makes a major policy change and does not put out a news release about it. That’s what the Interior Department did last week.

Handing another win to the National Rifle Association, the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service withdrew a ban related to importing elephant trophies from Africa. A March 1 memorandum, written in dense legalese, said the government will now allow hunters to receive permits on “a case-by-case basis” to bring tusks and other body parts back to this country.

This is notable because Trump chastised and then overruled his own political appointees at the department, led by Secretary Ryan Zinke, when they unveiled plans last November to lift restrictions put in place by Barack Obama. The president called the hunting of elephants for sport a “horror show.”

Just last month, Trump told Piers Morgan that what his team did last year was “terrible.”

“I didn’t want elephants killed and stuffed and have the tusks brought back,” he said.

Stories started trickling out this week as reporters discovered the memo that had been entered into the public record.

The NRA has been aggressively challenging the 2014 ban on elephant trophy imports from Zimbabwe and Zambia in court, and the D.C. Circuit ruled in December that the Obama administration didn’t follow proper procedures related to soliciting public comments when implementing it.

The Trump administration cites this finding as the justification for its policy change. But The Hill notes that Fish and Wildlife is simultaneously withdrawing other findings related to trophy hunting that stretch back to 1995. So that spin doesn’t necessarily pass the smell test.

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TV’s Frink said:

Mrebo said:

DominicCobb said:

Mrebo said:

DominicCobb said:

Mrebo said:

Art is political, amigo 😉

How did I know this is where this was heading…

Might as well start talking about Trump in Random Thoughts then.

You brought it upon yourself. Better I get it out of my system now. Trump should be contained!

There’s a difference between discussing films from a political perspective and discussing films just in general (without regard to their politics). Only one of those should take place in this thread, otherwise you’re suggesting forum anarchy.

Cross-posted from the great beyond:

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/joke

Oh hai chyron.

I did not hit her. I did not.

It’s bullshit.

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chyron just put a big Ric pic in your sig and be done with it.

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Fake puppies.

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I just can’t even anymore.

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Fort Stewart spokesman Kevin Larson said the marching soldiers “need to look professional” and “red lipstick is not part of the uniform.”

Wonder if they’ll be able to stop it.

The blue elephant in the room.

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Mrebo said:

I resist the urge to post the outrage of the day but this is messed up (and is one of those quiet policy changes referenced in the article Frink posts):

http://www.tampabay.com/florida-politics/buzz/2018/03/06/trump-blocks-access-to-puppy-mill-inspections-as-florida-weighs-dog-store-legislation/

TL;DR: Admin hiding puppy mill inspection records.

How f*cking mustache twirling evil can Trumpy possibly get?

The animal rights people are going to go ballistic.

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They’re not even real puppies. They’re just crisis badgers.

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what the

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/north-korean-leader-kim-jong-un-has-invited-president-trump-to-a-meeting/2018/03/08/021cb070-2322-11e8-badd-7c9f29a55815_story.html

North Korea’s belligerent leader, Kim Jong Un, has asked President Trump for talks and Trump has agreed to meet him “by May,” South Korea’s national security adviser said at the White House Thursday after delivering the invitation to the American president.

Kim has also committed to stopping nuclear and missile testing, even during joint military drills in South Korea next month, Chung Eui-yong told reporters in Washington.

After a year in which North Korea fired inter-continental ballistic missiles capable of reaching all of the United States and tested what is widely thought to have been a hydrogen bomb, such a moratorium would be welcomed by the U.S. and the world.

Kim Jong Un “expressed his eagerness to meet President Trump as soon as possible,” Chung said. “President Trump said he would meet Kim Jong Un by May.” Chung did not provide any information on where the meeting would be. In Seoul, the presidential Blue House clarified that the meeting would occur by the end of May.

The White House confirmed Trump had accepted Kim’s invitation to meet.

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yhwx said:

what the

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/north-korean-leader-kim-jong-un-has-invited-president-trump-to-a-meeting/2018/03/08/021cb070-2322-11e8-badd-7c9f29a55815_story.html

North Korea’s belligerent leader, Kim Jong Un, has asked President Trump for talks and Trump has agreed to meet him “by May,” South Korea’s national security adviser said at the White House Thursday after delivering the invitation to the American president.

Kim has also committed to stopping nuclear and missile testing, even during joint military drills in South Korea next month, Chung Eui-yong told reporters in Washington.

After a year in which North Korea fired inter-continental ballistic missiles capable of reaching all of the United States and tested what is widely thought to have been a hydrogen bomb, such a moratorium would be welcomed by the U.S. and the world.

Kim Jong Un “expressed his eagerness to meet President Trump as soon as possible,” Chung said. “President Trump said he would meet Kim Jong Un by May.” Chung did not provide any information on where the meeting would be. In Seoul, the presidential Blue House clarified that the meeting would occur by the end of May.

The White House confirmed Trump had accepted Kim’s invitation to meet.

A hopeful sign.

The blue elephant in the room.

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/posteverything/wp/2018/03/08/i-would-have-been-a-school-shooter-if-i-couldve-gotten-a-gun/?utm_term=.838f0730a654

Facing utter hopelessness, I snapped. I tried to get a gun; I wanted to take out as many people as possible — people who had tortured or ignored me — and then kill myself. It was 1997, and I had two possible locations mapped out: my school and a mall food court. I wanted to be heard. The abuse I’d suffered had closed me off, and I wanted to feel an emotion other than pain. I wanted to feel, for once, like I was in control, even if that meant spreading destruction and death.

But two things happened that stopped me.

A hopeful story for anyone going through a rough time, even if not as extreme as this.

The blue elephant in the room.

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Would you meet with a guy who executes his relatives via assassins and artillery fire? They’re going to need food tasters if these two have a dinner together!

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SilverWook said:

Would you meet with a guy who executes his relatives via assassins and artillery fire?

He also used dogs.

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Yikes.

Anyway, this reeks of a sucker play to buy time. If Trumpy is even still in office come May, this meeting could fall apart for any number of reasons. I don’t see KJU venturing out of NK in the first place. Trumpy might be crazy enough to go to Pyongyang though.
(And I can’t believe I spelled that right on the first try.)

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SilverWook said:

Would you meet with a guy who executes his relatives via assassins and artillery fire? They’re going to need food tasters if these two have a dinner together!

The bigger hurdle would be finding a McDonalds in North Korea.

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LOL!
Maybe they can install a Mc D’s in the belly of a cargo plane.

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SilverWook said:

Yikes.

Anyway, this reeks of a sucker play to buy time.

Maybe I’m cynical, but this looks like a Reagan-era back channel buy-off mutual face saver to me. North Korea survives off of threats and concessions – they consider this “tribute”. You pay them their tribute and they’re quiet for a few years. Then they come back later and demand more. From our point of view they’re irrational but it works every time, and from their point of view it demonstrates their greatness.

So all you have to do if you’re a person who doesn’t like to seem like they’re making concessions is have someone else pay the tribute secretly on your behalf. Some nation with access to huge amounts of international shady money connections and back channels that could get it (or equivalent goods) into North Korea, but who has also been very close to Trump for a long time. Trump walks into the room, pees on the rug, and the North Korean negotiators immediately give up all demands and agree to suspend nuclear developments (until after the nest round of elections, at the minimum). The pundits go wild over the hidden genius of the wet rug doctrine, but it’s just a simple payoff exactly like every other time.

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Puggo - Jar Jar’s Yoda said:

As a liberal, I was very upset at Obama’s use of drones and his massive deportations.

Me too.

Which is why I found it ironic that the right painted him soft on immigration and defense.

Ironic? Yes. Surprising? Not at all. Almost all of the right’s criticisms of Obama were total lies.

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My general thoughts on politics.

The blue elephant in the room.

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Your thoughts on politics are strangely hypnotic.

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All we ever get from Mrebo is lip service.

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TV’s Frink said:

All we ever get from Mrebo is lip service.

I’ll tell you my deep and convoluted political theories another night.

The blue elephant in the room.