TM2YC said:
Warbler said:
TM2YC said:
Warbler said:
http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/07/politics/ted-lieu-moment-of-silence-protest-guns/index.html
No one was telling him to be silence about whatever it is he thinks should be done about these mass shootings and guns.
No one? Are you sure?
Well who do you think was telling him to be silent about whatever he thinks should be don about mass shooting and guns? Even if someone did, he doesn’t have to listen to them. 1st amendment.
Just one example…
Like I said, he is free to ignore that and I strongly suggest he do so. I am not saying Lieu shouldn’t scream his head off about the need for more gun control, in fact I agree with it. I am just saying he can be silent for a moment.
Warbler said:
TM2YC said:
What you are perhaps missing, is that some people feel waaaaay more anger and frustration about this issue, than they feel sadness.
They should feel both.
As I was saying, many people are so far beyond sadness with these mass shootings, that all they feel now is anger.
Well they should feel both. Yes be angry about this happening again and again and the politicians not doing enough about it. But also be sad because 26 innocent people (many of whom were kids) are dead. I guarantee you the families of the victims aren’t just angry, they are sad too.
Being sad about it isn’t going to stop it happening again, directing your anger at hypocrites like Ryan, just might.
Not being sad won’t stop it either. Politicizing a moment of silent won’t stop it either.
Warbler said:
TM2YC said:
I’m sure they felt sad and in need of prayer, long, long ago but the amount of death and the amount of inaction (from politicians like Ryan) since then, mean that him saying people “need our prayers right now” yet again, instead of people “need us actually do something for once!” seem pretty f*cking insulting and hypocritical.
Then like I said, criticize Ryan for not doing whatever it is you think he should do, instead of criticizing him for saying the people effected need our prayers. They are not mutually exclusive activities.
The people don’t need his prayers, they need his action, so more families don’t face the same situation.
Maybe you are not religious, so you do not understand the significance and importance of prayer. But I am sure the members of that church do understand the significance and importance of prayer.
Yes, they need his action. They are also need our prayers.
Ryan asking people to pray for dead families, that he happily did nothing to save is crocodile tears. Tomorrow he’ll also do nothing and the day after that there will be another mass-shooting and he’ll call for prayers again. Rinse and repeat. Ryan praying for his own soul would be more productive.
Prayer and passing gun control are not mutually exclusive activities.
The argument you are making in regards to prayer, I could make in regards to him wearing a suit and tie everyday.
Criticize him for not doing enough in Congress to prevent these tragedies. Don’t criticizing him for asking for prayers.
