Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo — Page 476

While most Americans don’t own guns, most Americans do not think that gun control works.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/trumps-handling-of-hurricane-maria-is-getting-really-bad-marks/

More Americans don’t think gun control will stop mass shootings — There’s still so much we don’t know about Sunday night’s mass shooting in Las Vegas, the deadliest in recent U.S. history. Americans, though, are skeptical that legislation can do much to prevent future mass shootings. In a YouGov poll conducted after the killings, only 40 percent of Americans think stricter gun laws will reduce the number of shootings in the U.S., and only 41 percent think Congress should even take action to reduce mass shootings.

Plus:

I’m just going to quote ABC News here on the results it got in a survey with the Washington Post to an open-ended question asking for the one word that best describes views of Trump: “The ten most common words that respondents gave were: ‘incompetent,’ ‘arrogant,’ ‘strong,’ ‘idiot,’ ‘egotistical,’ ‘ignorant,’ ‘great,’ ‘racist,’ ‘a——’ and ‘narcissistic.’”

Warbler said:

I’m just going to quote ABC News here on the results it got in a survey with the Washington Post to an open-ended question asking for the one word that best describes views of Trump: “The ten most common words that respondents gave were: ‘incompetent,’ ‘arrogant,’ ‘strong, ‘idiot,’ ‘egotistical,’ ‘ignorant,’ ‘great,’ ‘racist,’ ‘a——’ and ‘narcissistic.’”

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Maybe they meant he was a “strong idiot” and “great racist”?

Jeebus said:

Tyrphanax said:

Warbler said:

I’m just going to quote ABC News here on the results it got in a survey with the Washington Post to an open-ended question asking for the one word that best describes views of Trump: “The ten most common words that respondents gave were: ‘incompetent,’ ‘arrogant,’ ‘strong, ‘idiot,’ ‘egotistical,’ ‘ignorant,’ ‘great,’ ‘racist,’ ‘a——’ and ‘narcissistic.’”

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Maybe they meant he was a “strong idiot” and “great racist”?

Or perhaps a political strongman.

Strong smelling?

TV’s Frink said:

https://www.thenation.com/article/mike-pences-nfl-walkout-was-a-cheap-transparent-stunt/

The first sign that Pence’s scurrying-off was staged: these were the San Francisco 49ers that the Colts were playing. The 49ers have been protesting racism during the anthem for over a year. Led by safety Eric Reid, the first player to kneel with Colin Kaepernick over a year ago, the 49ers are the team you’d pick if you wanted to fake outrage about someone peacefully protesting police brutality. Peter Alexander of NBC News tweeted almost immediately, “Reporters [accompanying Pence] were told to stay in van bc ‘there may be an early departure from the game.’” In other words, in advance of the anthem, Pence was planning to show up and then leave.

Then the veep’s own publicly available schedule tripped him up. That morning, his team let it be known that Pence would be at a California fundraiser by 6:30pm. The plane was gassed up and ready to go. Pence actually flew from Nevada to Indianapolis to go to a game for five minutes only to fly back to the West Coast. As Sports Illustrated‘s Peter King tweeted, “@VP took a taxpayer-funded airplane knowing he’d be walking out right after the anthem to protest. Swell use of our tax dollars.”

When you factor in the secret service, the diverting of law enforcement, as well as the clearing air and road traffic to get him in and out, this was at least a six figure authoritarian stunt.

Just to add an even thicker lacquer of incompetence, Pence tweeted out a photo of himself from the game; yet as the Indianapolis Star quickly noted, the photo was from 2014.

Then, like a baby who wants to show a room of adults what’s in his diaper, Trump tweeted out that this was all his doing, hanging Pence out to dry. He wrote, “I asked @VP Pence to leave stadium if any players kneeled, disrespecting our country.”

This was amateur hour fraud. It was Gulf of Tonkin for idiots: a ham handed effort to isolate people brave enough to dissent in the face of the most powerful people in the world and raise issues of racism that this administration is too craven to discuss. It’s also very disturbing. The very week Sarah Huckabee Sanders spoke about Trump’s “respect for the 1st Amendment,” we had a staged spectacle with the highest levels of government attempting to intimidate and coerce people to not exercise those rights. It’s disgusting and another example of Pence’s degradation, his Faustian bargain with this administration.

Why am I not surprised?

Oh right, because about 90% of the administration is stupid.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/nancy-pelosi-calls-on-ryan-bring-bump-stock-ban-to-floor/

During an exchange with CBS News’ Nancy Cordes, Pelosi suggested that Republicans might feel such a ban would be a “slippery slope” for other gun bills. “So what?” she said, adding, “I certainly hope so.”

Such common sense.

“We have to try to see what brings us together, not separates us further,” added Pelosi.

I’m seeing a disconnect here…

Also, I found this to be a good interview:

http://www.npr.org/2017/10/08/556375187/salesman-who-sold-gun-to-las-vegas-shooter-could-i-have-stopped-this-no

Warbler said:

moviefreakedmind said:

Warbler said:

“And where is that band who so vauntingly swore
That the havoc of war and the battle’s confusion,
A home and a country, should leave us no more?
Their blood has washed out their foul footsteps’ pollution.
No refuge could save the hireling and slave
From the terror of flight, or the gloom of the grave:
And the star-spangled banner in triumph doth wave,
O’er the land of the free and the home of the brave”

It seems that some have problems with the third stanza of the National Anthem. I would have no problem altering the wording to remove the offensive parts.

Rather than deleting “offensive” portions of a really old song, why don’t we just accept that it, like all art, is a product of its time? Please, let’s stop worshiping this song!

I would be able to do that, but I was thinking that maybe African Americans might not. In order to be respectful to them, I though maybe the words to the thirds verse should be changed.

EDIT: And aren’t you the guy that is supposed to be all about “respecting” our anthem?

I am about respecting it, yes.

Isn’t revising it for a modern audience disrespectful?

not if done carefully and minimally.

That third stanza should be left as is, and let’s be honest no one even knows that stanza exists,

google Star Spangled banner third stanza. You’ll see people talking about it and complaining about it.

as an example of why we shouldn’t worship a song. It’s not perfect.

I don’t worship it. For me, worship is reserved for God and Christ. No the song is not perfect, but I believe the ideals it represents are(freedom, justice, rights, equality, those sorts of things).

My point was that we shouldn’t have a national anthem at all.

Warbler said:

moviefreakedmind said:

Warbler said:

moviefreakedmind said:

Warbler said:

“And where is that band who so vauntingly swore
That the havoc of war and the battle’s confusion,
A home and a country, should leave us no more?
Their blood has washed out their foul footsteps’ pollution.
No refuge could save the hireling and slave
From the terror of flight, or the gloom of the grave:
And the star-spangled banner in triumph doth wave,
O’er the land of the free and the home of the brave”

It seems that some have problems with the third stanza of the National Anthem. I would have no problem altering the wording to remove the offensive parts.

Rather than deleting “offensive” portions of a really old song, why don’t we just accept that it, like all art, is a product of its time? Please, let’s stop worshiping this song!

I would be able to do that, but I was thinking that maybe African Americans might not. In order to be respectful to them, I though maybe the words to the thirds verse should be changed.

EDIT: And aren’t you the guy that is supposed to be all about “respecting” our anthem?

I am about respecting it, yes.

Isn’t revising it for a modern audience disrespectful?

not if done carefully and minimally.

That third stanza should be left as is, and let’s be honest no one even knows that stanza exists,

google Star Spangled banner third stanza. You’ll see people talking about it and complaining about it.

as an example of why we shouldn’t worship a song. It’s not perfect.

I don’t worship it. For me, worship is reserved for God and Christ. No the song is not perfect, but I believe the ideals it represents are(freedom, justice, rights, equality, those sorts of things).

My point was that we shouldn’t have a national anthem at all.

Why not? Every country has one. What would be played when an American wins a gold medal at the olmpics if we didn’t have one?

Nothing, I guess?

Warbler said:

moviefreakedmind said:

we shouldn’t have a national anthem at all.

What would be played when an American wins a gold medal at the olmpics

Eye of the Tiger by Survivor? Tell me with hand on heart, that wouldn’t be better.

Warbler said:

moviefreakedmind said:

Warbler said:

moviefreakedmind said:

Warbler said:

“And where is that band who so vauntingly swore
That the havoc of war and the battle’s confusion,
A home and a country, should leave us no more?
Their blood has washed out their foul footsteps’ pollution.
No refuge could save the hireling and slave
From the terror of flight, or the gloom of the grave:
And the star-spangled banner in triumph doth wave,
O’er the land of the free and the home of the brave”

It seems that some have problems with the third stanza of the National Anthem. I would have no problem altering the wording to remove the offensive parts.

Rather than deleting “offensive” portions of a really old song, why don’t we just accept that it, like all art, is a product of its time? Please, let’s stop worshiping this song!

I would be able to do that, but I was thinking that maybe African Americans might not. In order to be respectful to them, I though maybe the words to the thirds verse should be changed.

EDIT: And aren’t you the guy that is supposed to be all about “respecting” our anthem?

I am about respecting it, yes.

Isn’t revising it for a modern audience disrespectful?

not if done carefully and minimally.

That third stanza should be left as is, and let’s be honest no one even knows that stanza exists,

google Star Spangled banner third stanza. You’ll see people talking about it and complaining about it.

as an example of why we shouldn’t worship a song. It’s not perfect.

I don’t worship it. For me, worship is reserved for God and Christ. No the song is not perfect, but I believe the ideals it represents are(freedom, justice, rights, equality, those sorts of things).

My point was that we shouldn’t have a national anthem at all.

Why not? Every country has one. What would be played when an American wins a gold medal at the olmpics if we didn’t have one?

Who cares? If all America’s theme song is good for is sporting events then that shows, at least to me, that it isn’t very important.

Team America theme of course. 😉

Lol.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=nYsUKPoW-Qo