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Warbler, is there any level of protest you would accept during the playing of the national anthem?

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oojason said:

Warbler said:

oojason said:

Warbler said:

Jeebus said:

Warbler said:

DominicCobb said:

Warbler said:

We have truly reached a low point in our society.

Yes, I agree - the president has publicly called citizens peacefully protesting “sons of bitches.” Despicable.

Citizens peacefully protesting:

Would it be wrong for the President to call them “sons of bitches”?

The only comparison you could make that’s more absurd would be to bring up actual Nazis.

“Hey, Nazis were upset with the state of Germany, these football players are upset with the state of America… you think that’s a coincidence?”

I don’t know why you would bring up the Nazis here. They were definitely not peacefully protesters.

To be honest Warbler, some may be struggling as to why you brought up the Westboro Baptists into this right now - unless you are trying to equate the protests of Westboro Baptists to the protests that occurred today?

I guess you missed this:

Warbler said:

I was simply trying to show that some peaceful protests are bad. I think we agree that I picked a good example of a bad peaceful protest.

I have every right to be of the opinion that the peaceful protest of the National Anthem is a bad peaceful protest(but nowhere near as bad as what the Westboro Baptists did).

No mate, I didn’t miss you bringing up the Westboro Baptists into this, nor what you later wrote at all.

Well then you should know why I mentioned them and that I don’t consider the anthem protesters anywhere near as bad as the Westboro Baptists.

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yhwx said:

Warbler, is there any level of protest you would accept during the playing of the national anthem?

No. It is not a time for protest.

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Warbler said:

oojason said:

Warbler said:

Jeebus said:

Warbler said:

DominicCobb said:

Warbler said:

We have truly reached a low point in our society.

Yes, I agree - the president has publicly called citizens peacefully protesting “sons of bitches.” Despicable.

Citizens peacefully protesting:

Would it be wrong for the President to call them “sons of bitches”?

The only comparison you could make that’s more absurd would be to bring up actual Nazis.

“Hey, Nazis were upset with the state of Germany, these football players are upset with the state of America… you think that’s a coincidence?”

I don’t know why you would bring up the Nazis here. They were definitely not peacefully protesters.

To be honest Warbler, some may be struggling as to why you brought up the Westboro Baptists into this right now - unless you are trying to equate the protests of Westboro Baptists to the protests that occurred today?

I guess you missed this:

Warbler said:

I was simply trying to show that some peaceful protests are bad. I think we agree that I picked a good example of a bad peaceful protest.

I have every right to be of the opinion that the peaceful protest of the National Anthem is a bad peaceful protest(but nowhere near as bad as what the Westboro Baptists did).

 

Now, Puggo has made a decent point here…

Puggo - Jar Jar’s Yoda said:

I notice that in some cases, players kneeling still remove their hat and/or hold their hand over their heart. Still nobody has been able to explain how kneeling is a sign of disrespect.

For me, kneeling in this manner honours both the anthem and what it symbolises - yet is still an effective form of protest.

It is obvious in this case, the intent is protest.

That doesn’t make any sense.

The intent is to protest police brutality and racism. The side effect is to disrespect the anthem (if you believe that which I obviously don’t), but it’s not the intent. So to ask again…how is kneeling during the anthem a sign of disrespect?

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Warbler said:

yhwx said:

Warbler, is there any level of protest you would accept during the playing of the national anthem?

No. It is not a time for protest.

Says who?

Why do you get to make the rules for protest?

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TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

oojason said:

Warbler said:

Jeebus said:

Warbler said:

DominicCobb said:

Warbler said:

We have truly reached a low point in our society.

Yes, I agree - the president has publicly called citizens peacefully protesting “sons of bitches.” Despicable.

Citizens peacefully protesting:

Would it be wrong for the President to call them “sons of bitches”?

The only comparison you could make that’s more absurd would be to bring up actual Nazis.

“Hey, Nazis were upset with the state of Germany, these football players are upset with the state of America… you think that’s a coincidence?”

I don’t know why you would bring up the Nazis here. They were definitely not peacefully protesters.

To be honest Warbler, some may be struggling as to why you brought up the Westboro Baptists into this right now - unless you are trying to equate the protests of Westboro Baptists to the protests that occurred today?

I guess you missed this:

Warbler said:

I was simply trying to show that some peaceful protests are bad. I think we agree that I picked a good example of a bad peaceful protest.

I have every right to be of the opinion that the peaceful protest of the National Anthem is a bad peaceful protest(but nowhere near as bad as what the Westboro Baptists did).

 

Now, Puggo has made a decent point here…

Puggo - Jar Jar’s Yoda said:

I notice that in some cases, players kneeling still remove their hat and/or hold their hand over their heart. Still nobody has been able to explain how kneeling is a sign of disrespect.

For me, kneeling in this manner honours both the anthem and what it symbolises - yet is still an effective form of protest.

It is obvious in this case, the intent is protest.

That doesn’t make any sense.

The intent is to protest police brutality and racism.

by protesting the Anthem.

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Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

Holy shit Warb.

I was simply trying to show that some peaceful protests are bad. I think we agree that I picked a good example of a bad peaceful protest.

I have every right to be of the opinion that the peaceful protest of the National Anthem is a bad peaceful protest(but nowhere near as bad as what the Westboro Baptists did).

What the protesters are protesting matters, even if you won’t acknowledge it.

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Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

oojason said:

Warbler said:

Jeebus said:

Warbler said:

DominicCobb said:

Warbler said:

We have truly reached a low point in our society.

Yes, I agree - the president has publicly called citizens peacefully protesting “sons of bitches.” Despicable.

Citizens peacefully protesting:

Would it be wrong for the President to call them “sons of bitches”?

The only comparison you could make that’s more absurd would be to bring up actual Nazis.

“Hey, Nazis were upset with the state of Germany, these football players are upset with the state of America… you think that’s a coincidence?”

I don’t know why you would bring up the Nazis here. They were definitely not peacefully protesters.

To be honest Warbler, some may be struggling as to why you brought up the Westboro Baptists into this right now - unless you are trying to equate the protests of Westboro Baptists to the protests that occurred today?

I guess you missed this:

Warbler said:

I was simply trying to show that some peaceful protests are bad. I think we agree that I picked a good example of a bad peaceful protest.

I have every right to be of the opinion that the peaceful protest of the National Anthem is a bad peaceful protest(but nowhere near as bad as what the Westboro Baptists did).

 

Now, Puggo has made a decent point here…

Puggo - Jar Jar’s Yoda said:

I notice that in some cases, players kneeling still remove their hat and/or hold their hand over their heart. Still nobody has been able to explain how kneeling is a sign of disrespect.

For me, kneeling in this manner honours both the anthem and what it symbolises - yet is still an effective form of protest.

It is obvious in this case, the intent is protest.

That doesn’t make any sense.

The intent is to protest police brutality and racism.

by protesting the Anthem.

You’re still dodging Puggo’s question.

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TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

yhwx said:

Warbler, is there any level of protest you would accept during the playing of the national anthem?

No. It is not a time for protest.

Says who?

says me. The Anthem is a time for reflection and honoring the country and what it stands for.

Why do you get to make the rules for protest?

I don’t get to make the rules. I just know that protesting the Anthem is wrong. It is unAmerican.

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thejediknighthusezni said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

Holy shit Warb.

I was simply trying to show that some peaceful protests are bad. I think we agree that I picked a good example of a bad peaceful protest.

I have every right to be of the opinion that the peaceful protest of the National Anthem is a bad peaceful protest(but nowhere near as bad as what the Westboro Baptists did).

Pissing all over symbols and representations of what young men bled and died for directly in front of veterans who are just trying to enjoy a ball game

Wrong.

I hate to break it to you Warbler, but this guy is on your side.

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TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

oojason said:

Warbler said:

Jeebus said:

Warbler said:

DominicCobb said:

Warbler said:

We have truly reached a low point in our society.

Yes, I agree - the president has publicly called citizens peacefully protesting “sons of bitches.” Despicable.

Citizens peacefully protesting:

Would it be wrong for the President to call them “sons of bitches”?

The only comparison you could make that’s more absurd would be to bring up actual Nazis.

“Hey, Nazis were upset with the state of Germany, these football players are upset with the state of America… you think that’s a coincidence?”

I don’t know why you would bring up the Nazis here. They were definitely not peacefully protesters.

To be honest Warbler, some may be struggling as to why you brought up the Westboro Baptists into this right now - unless you are trying to equate the protests of Westboro Baptists to the protests that occurred today?

I guess you missed this:

Warbler said:

I was simply trying to show that some peaceful protests are bad. I think we agree that I picked a good example of a bad peaceful protest.

I have every right to be of the opinion that the peaceful protest of the National Anthem is a bad peaceful protest(but nowhere near as bad as what the Westboro Baptists did).

 

Now, Puggo has made a decent point here…

Puggo - Jar Jar’s Yoda said:

I notice that in some cases, players kneeling still remove their hat and/or hold their hand over their heart. Still nobody has been able to explain how kneeling is a sign of disrespect.

For me, kneeling in this manner honours both the anthem and what it symbolises - yet is still an effective form of protest.

It is obvious in this case, the intent is protest.

That doesn’t make any sense.

The intent is to protest police brutality and racism.

by protesting the Anthem.

You’re still dodging Puggo’s question.

I don’t think I am. It is clear they are not taking a knee to show respect, they are doing it to protest.

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Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

yhwx said:

Warbler, is there any level of protest you would accept during the playing of the national anthem?

No. It is not a time for protest.

Says who?

says me. The Anthem is a time for reflection and honoring the country and what it stands for.

That’s what it is for you. You’ve chosen to make it that.

I just know that protesting the Anthem is wrong.

They aren’t doing that. Why can’t you understand this?

It is unAmerican.

Actually it’s the opposite.

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TV’s Frink said:

thejediknighthusezni said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

Holy shit Warb.

I was simply trying to show that some peaceful protests are bad. I think we agree that I picked a good example of a bad peaceful protest.

I have every right to be of the opinion that the peaceful protest of the National Anthem is a bad peaceful protest(but nowhere near as bad as what the Westboro Baptists did).

Pissing all over symbols and representations of what young men bled and died for directly in front of veterans who are just trying to enjoy a ball game

Wrong.

I hate to break it to you Warbler, but this guy is on your side.

Did you miss the post where I told him to shut up and go way? Also if you read his post, you’d know we disagree as to how bad it is to protest the Anthem.

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Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

oojason said:

Warbler said:

Jeebus said:

Warbler said:

DominicCobb said:

Warbler said:

We have truly reached a low point in our society.

Yes, I agree - the president has publicly called citizens peacefully protesting “sons of bitches.” Despicable.

Citizens peacefully protesting:

Would it be wrong for the President to call them “sons of bitches”?

The only comparison you could make that’s more absurd would be to bring up actual Nazis.

“Hey, Nazis were upset with the state of Germany, these football players are upset with the state of America… you think that’s a coincidence?”

I don’t know why you would bring up the Nazis here. They were definitely not peacefully protesters.

To be honest Warbler, some may be struggling as to why you brought up the Westboro Baptists into this right now - unless you are trying to equate the protests of Westboro Baptists to the protests that occurred today?

I guess you missed this:

Warbler said:

I was simply trying to show that some peaceful protests are bad. I think we agree that I picked a good example of a bad peaceful protest.

I have every right to be of the opinion that the peaceful protest of the National Anthem is a bad peaceful protest(but nowhere near as bad as what the Westboro Baptists did).

 

Now, Puggo has made a decent point here…

Puggo - Jar Jar’s Yoda said:

I notice that in some cases, players kneeling still remove their hat and/or hold their hand over their heart. Still nobody has been able to explain how kneeling is a sign of disrespect.

For me, kneeling in this manner honours both the anthem and what it symbolises - yet is still an effective form of protest.

It is obvious in this case, the intent is protest.

That doesn’t make any sense.

The intent is to protest police brutality and racism.

by protesting the Anthem.

You’re still dodging Puggo’s question.

I don’t think I am. It is clear they are not taking a knee to show respect, they are doing it to protest.

I give up. You’re clearly incapable of answering the actual question that was asked.

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Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

thejediknighthusezni said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

Holy shit Warb.

I was simply trying to show that some peaceful protests are bad. I think we agree that I picked a good example of a bad peaceful protest.

I have every right to be of the opinion that the peaceful protest of the National Anthem is a bad peaceful protest(but nowhere near as bad as what the Westboro Baptists did).

Pissing all over symbols and representations of what young men bled and died for directly in front of veterans who are just trying to enjoy a ball game

Wrong.

I hate to break it to you Warbler, but this guy is on your side.

Did you miss the post where I told him to shut up and go way? Also if you read his post, you’d know we disagree as to how bad it is to protest the Anthem.

He seems to think protesting during the anthem is a terrible thing, so he’s certainly more on your side than mine.

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TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

yhwx said:

Warbler, is there any level of protest you would accept during the playing of the national anthem?

No. It is not a time for protest.

Says who?

says me. The Anthem is a time for reflection and honoring the country and what it stands for.

That’s what it is for you. You’ve chosen to make it that.

And so has every other American until last year!

I just know that protesting the Anthem is wrong.

They aren’t doing that. Why can’t you understand this?

Yes they are, why can’t you understand that?

It is unAmerican.

Actually it’s the opposite.

Actually it isn’t the opposite.

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TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

thejediknighthusezni said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

Holy shit Warb.

I was simply trying to show that some peaceful protests are bad. I think we agree that I picked a good example of a bad peaceful protest.

I have every right to be of the opinion that the peaceful protest of the National Anthem is a bad peaceful protest(but nowhere near as bad as what the Westboro Baptists did).

Pissing all over symbols and representations of what young men bled and died for directly in front of veterans who are just trying to enjoy a ball game

Wrong.

I hate to break it to you Warbler, but this guy is on your side.

Did you miss the post where I told him to shut up and go way? Also if you read his post, you’d know we disagree as to how bad it is to protest the Anthem.

He seems to think protesting during the anthem is a terrible thing, so he’s certainly more on your side than mine.

perhaps. But I don’t want him anywhere near my side. Same with Trump.

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TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

oojason said:

Warbler said:

Jeebus said:

Warbler said:

DominicCobb said:

Warbler said:

We have truly reached a low point in our society.

Yes, I agree - the president has publicly called citizens peacefully protesting “sons of bitches.” Despicable.

Citizens peacefully protesting:

Would it be wrong for the President to call them “sons of bitches”?

The only comparison you could make that’s more absurd would be to bring up actual Nazis.

“Hey, Nazis were upset with the state of Germany, these football players are upset with the state of America… you think that’s a coincidence?”

I don’t know why you would bring up the Nazis here. They were definitely not peacefully protesters.

To be honest Warbler, some may be struggling as to why you brought up the Westboro Baptists into this right now - unless you are trying to equate the protests of Westboro Baptists to the protests that occurred today?

I guess you missed this:

Warbler said:

I was simply trying to show that some peaceful protests are bad. I think we agree that I picked a good example of a bad peaceful protest.

I have every right to be of the opinion that the peaceful protest of the National Anthem is a bad peaceful protest(but nowhere near as bad as what the Westboro Baptists did).

 

Now, Puggo has made a decent point here…

Puggo - Jar Jar’s Yoda said:

I notice that in some cases, players kneeling still remove their hat and/or hold their hand over their heart. Still nobody has been able to explain how kneeling is a sign of disrespect.

For me, kneeling in this manner honours both the anthem and what it symbolises - yet is still an effective form of protest.

It is obvious in this case, the intent is protest.

That doesn’t make any sense.

The intent is to protest police brutality and racism.

by protesting the Anthem.

You’re still dodging Puggo’s question.

I don’t think I am. It is clear they are not taking a knee to show respect, they are doing it to protest.

I give up. You’re clearly incapable of answering the actual question that was asked.

I think I have answered it effectively.

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Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

yhwx said:

Warbler, is there any level of protest you would accept during the playing of the national anthem?

No. It is not a time for protest.

Says who?

says me. The Anthem is a time for reflection and honoring the country and what it stands for.

That’s what it is for you. You’ve chosen to make it that.

And so has every other American until last year!

Uh, no. Not every American was on your side until they suddenly weren’t last year.

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Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

yhwx said:

Warbler, is there any level of protest you would accept during the playing of the national anthem?

No. It is not a time for protest.

Says who?

says me. The Anthem is a time for reflection and honoring the country and what it stands for.

That’s what it is for you. You’ve chosen to make it that.

And so has every other American until last year!

Says who?

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Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

thejediknighthusezni said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

Holy shit Warb.

I was simply trying to show that some peaceful protests are bad. I think we agree that I picked a good example of a bad peaceful protest.

I have every right to be of the opinion that the peaceful protest of the National Anthem is a bad peaceful protest(but nowhere near as bad as what the Westboro Baptists did).

Pissing all over symbols and representations of what young men bled and died for directly in front of veterans who are just trying to enjoy a ball game

Wrong.

I hate to break it to you Warbler, but this guy is on your side.

Did you miss the post where I told him to shut up and go way? Also if you read his post, you’d know we disagree as to how bad it is to protest the Anthem.

He seems to think protesting during the anthem is a terrible thing, so he’s certainly more on your side than mine.

perhaps. But I don’t want him anywhere near my side. Same with Trump.

You can’t choose who’s on your side of any issue.

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This horse has been beaten to death so much I’m concerned for its safety.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/24/us/politics/new-order-bars-almost-all-travel-from-seven-countries.html

WASHINGTON — President Trump on Sunday issued a new order banning almost all travel to the United States from seven countries, including most of the nations covered by his original travel ban, citing threats to national security posed by letting their citizens into the country.

Starting next month, most citizens of Iran, Libya, Syria, Yemen, Somalia, Chad and North Korea will be indefinitely banned from entering the United States, Mr. Trump said in a proclamation released Sunday night. Citizens of Iraq and some groups of people in Venezuela who seek to visit the United States will face restrictions or heightened scrutiny.

Mr. Trump’s original travel ban, which caused chaos at airports earlier this year and set off a furious legal challenge to the president’s authority, expired on Sunday even as the Supreme Court is set to hear arguments about its constitutionality on Oct. 10. The new bans will take effect Oct. 18.

“As president, I must act to protect the security and interests of the United States and its people,” Mr. Trump said in the proclamation, which White House officials said had the same force as an executive order. He added that the restrictions will remain in effect until the governments of the affected nations “satisfactorily address the identified inadequacies.”

Officials described the new order as a much more targeted effort than the president’s earlier one. Each of the countries will be under its own set of travel restrictions, though in most cases citizens of the countries will be unable to emigrate to the United States personally and most will be barred from coming to work, study or vacation in America.

Iran, for example, will still be able to send its citizens on student exchanges, though such visitors will be subject to enhanced screening. Certain government officials of Venezuela and their families will be barred from visiting the United States. Somalis will no longer be allowed to emigrate to the United States, but may visit with extra screening.

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I wasn’t aware we had an influx of North Korean tourists.

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