Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo — Page 403

TV’s Frink said:

Ok, even I think this is going too far.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/23/business/media/robert-lee-university-virginia-charlottesville.html

ESPN has removed an announcer from its broadcast of the University of Virginia’s first football game next month because he has the same name as a Confederate general memorialized in statues that are being taken down across the country.

The network announced late Tuesday that the announcer, Robert Lee, a part-time employee who calls about a dozen college football and basketball games a year for ESPN, would no longer participate in the broadcast of the Sept. 2 game in Charlottesville, Va., which became the center of violent clashes this month during a white supremacist gathering.

White nationalists and neo-Nazis flooded into Charlottesville, marching through the University of Virginia campus with torches, to protest the city’s plan to remove a statue of the Confederacy’s top general, Robert E. Lee.

After the violence in Charlottesville, which left one person dead, ESPN executives and Mr. Lee decided that for his safety it would be best to have him to work on a different game that Saturday, a network spokesman said.

“We collectively made the decision with Robert to switch games as the tragic events in Charlottesville were unfolding, simply because of the coincidence of his name,” ESPN said in a statement. “In that moment it felt right to all parties. It’s a shame that this is even a topic of conversation and we regret that who calls play-by-play for a football game has become an issue.”

Your opinion is invalid due to you being white.

darth_ender said:

chyron8472 said:

Regarding the statues in the South, I have a feeling that there has been a certain romanticism attached to the Confederacy and/or the prominent characters involved. Similar to how pirates or cowboys are romanticized. Much of the reality has been lost and replaced with fictional motivations or made romantic with notions of “southern pride” or rebelling against The Man.

I don’t think the present-day South understands what the Battle Flag of Northern Virginia (aka the Confederate Flag) actually stood for back in the day, but rather attaches a romantic quality to it in ignorance of the reality it came from.

This is very true. I witnessed it firsthand, and at that time didn’t even recognize its fallaciousness. To Southerners, it isn’t always about slavery and racism. Yes, I remember a racist shop where they sold KKK paraphernalia and Confederate flags. However, to the majority, they see Confederate leaders as modern knights, overlooking their ideology the way we overlook the evils of, well, as to said, pirates and cowboys and such. John Wayne and Johnny Depp never raped or murdered anyone!

Wait, you are you John Wayne and Johnny Depp actually raped people? I’ve honestly never heard either one of them being accused of rape.

Warbler said:

Frank your Majesty said:

Warbler said:

true, but it happens sometimes in society (Germany 1930s and the South of the USA) that ideas from the Nazis/KKK are more popular then the ideas of MLK. In order to make sure MLK’s freedom of Speech is protected in such an era, we protect the Nazis/KKK(unless they become violent and/or break the law).

You seem to think that the Nazis would respect your freedom of speech as much as you respect theirs.

Was MLK’s freedom of speech protected in 1940s Germany? No, they abolished freedom of speech as soon as they could.

My point is, I want to be like the Nazis.

😉

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

I think it is wrong to treat me like some sort of clueless jackass due to my race. I wish you’d knock that off.

I don’t treat you that way. Show me some posts where I did that.

give me a bit of time to find the posts.

darth_ender said:

Warbler said:

Frank your Majesty said:

Warbler said:

true, but it happens sometimes in society (Germany 1930s and the South of the USA) that ideas from the Nazis/KKK are more popular then the ideas of MLK. In order to make sure MLK’s freedom of Speech is protected in such an era, we protect the Nazis/KKK(unless they become violent and/or break the law).

You seem to think that the Nazis would respect your freedom of speech as much as you respect theirs.

Was MLK’s freedom of speech protected in 1940s Germany? No, they abolished freedom of speech as soon as they could.

My point is, I want to be like the Nazis.

😉

oh sh**. It is amazing how leaving out a word can change the whole meaning of what you intended. Obviously, I meant “I don’t want to be like the Nazis.”

I have corrected the original post.

Warbler said:

darth_ender said:

chyron8472 said:

Regarding the statues in the South, I have a feeling that there has been a certain romanticism attached to the Confederacy and/or the prominent characters involved. Similar to how pirates or cowboys are romanticized. Much of the reality has been lost and replaced with fictional motivations or made romantic with notions of “southern pride” or rebelling against The Man.

I don’t think the present-day South understands what the Battle Flag of Northern Virginia (aka the Confederate Flag) actually stood for back in the day, but rather attaches a romantic quality to it in ignorance of the reality it came from.

This is very true. I witnessed it firsthand, and at that time didn’t even recognize its fallaciousness. To Southerners, it isn’t always about slavery and racism. Yes, I remember a racist shop where they sold KKK paraphernalia and Confederate flags. However, to the majority, they see Confederate leaders as modern knights, overlooking their ideology the way we overlook the evils of, well, as to said, pirates and cowboys and such. John Wayne and Johnny Depp never raped or murdered anyone!

Wait, you are you John Wayne and Johnny Depp actually raped people? I’ve honestly never heard either one of them being accused of rape.

John Wayne and Johnny Depp have never raped anyone to my knowledge. It was a reference to the romanticism both actors have portrayed in cowboys and pirates.

oh.

darth_ender said:

Warbler said:

darth_ender said:

chyron8472 said:

Regarding the statues in the South, I have a feeling that there has been a certain romanticism attached to the Confederacy and/or the prominent characters involved. Similar to how pirates or cowboys are romanticized. Much of the reality has been lost and replaced with fictional motivations or made romantic with notions of “southern pride” or rebelling against The Man.

I don’t think the present-day South understands what the Battle Flag of Northern Virginia (aka the Confederate Flag) actually stood for back in the day, but rather attaches a romantic quality to it in ignorance of the reality it came from.

This is very true. I witnessed it firsthand, and at that time didn’t even recognize its fallaciousness. To Southerners, it isn’t always about slavery and racism. Yes, I remember a racist shop where they sold KKK paraphernalia and Confederate flags. However, to the majority, they see Confederate leaders as modern knights, overlooking their ideology the way we overlook the evils of, well, as to said, pirates and cowboys and such. John Wayne and Johnny Depp never raped or murdered anyone!

Wait, you are you John Wayne and Johnny Depp actually raped people? I’ve honestly never heard either one of them being accused of rape.

John Wayne and Johnny Depp have never raped anyone to my knowledge.

Ok, you added “to my knowledge” this time, so I guess I can retract my “citation needed.”

I dunno. I kinda like this “guilty until proven innocent” approach. We should talk about a Constitutional amendment the politics thread!

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

Ok, even I think this is going too far.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/23/business/media/robert-lee-university-virginia-charlottesville.html

ESPN has removed an announcer from its broadcast of the University of Virginia’s first football game next month because he has the same name as a Confederate general memorialized in statues that are being taken down across the country.

The network announced late Tuesday that the announcer, Robert Lee, a part-time employee who calls about a dozen college football and basketball games a year for ESPN, would no longer participate in the broadcast of the Sept. 2 game in Charlottesville, Va., which became the center of violent clashes this month during a white supremacist gathering.

White nationalists and neo-Nazis flooded into Charlottesville, marching through the University of Virginia campus with torches, to protest the city’s plan to remove a statue of the Confederacy’s top general, Robert E. Lee.

After the violence in Charlottesville, which left one person dead, ESPN executives and Mr. Lee decided that for his safety it would be best to have him to work on a different game that Saturday, a network spokesman said.

“We collectively made the decision with Robert to switch games as the tragic events in Charlottesville were unfolding, simply because of the coincidence of his name,” ESPN said in a statement. “In that moment it felt right to all parties. It’s a shame that this is even a topic of conversation and we regret that who calls play-by-play for a football game has become an issue.”

Your opinion is invalid due to you being white.

Find me the black people who want this guy removed because of his name. I never said white people cannot have any opinions on race.

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

darthrush said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

In other racial news…

https://www.si.com/nfl/2017/08/15/espn-apology-fantasy-football-auction

Yikes. Great timing.

Is this really that big of a deal? They weren’t selling black people, they were doing a FANTASY auction of football players. It also included white players. According to the article you linked too, auctions are common in fantasy football.

"Auction drafts are a common part of fantasy football, and ESPN’s segments replicated an auction draft with a diverse slate of top professional football players. Without that context, we understand the optics could be portrayed as offensive, and we apologize,” ESPN said in a statement to USA TODAY Sports.

I’ve done Fantasy for many years now and this story proves that if someone does something as simple as taking something out of context, they’ll get offended real quick.

Just once I wish you guys could admit that maybe just maybe black people could have an issue with something that you guys don’t.

Just once I wish that you guys could admit that "maybe just maybe* just because some black people have an issue with something, doesn’t automatically make it a valid complaint.

Ok, good to know. Please be sure to let black people know each time what they are allowed to have an issue with, so they can stop making the same mistake of being offended.

*sigh*

Fact: People sometimes get offended at things that aren’t reasonable to be offended over.

Once again, thanks for clarifying that for black people. I’m sure they feel much better now.

Do disagree with the fact that I stated? Are you saying it never happens that someone gets offended at something that wasn’t reasonable to get offended at? That never happens???

If a black person says they are offended because Jack White won’t change his name to Jack Black, I wouldn’t consider that reasonable. If a black person says they are offended because an ESPN sketch includes something that is reminiscent of a slave auction, I’m not gonna argue.

^I think FOS means something different when addressing Nazis and their ilk.

darth_ender said:

^I think FOS means something different when addressing Nazis and their ilk.

Yes.

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

I think it is wrong to treat me like some sort of clueless jackass due to my race. I wish you’d knock that off.

I don’t treat you that way. Show me some posts where I did that.

TV’s Frink said:

Goddamn there sure are a lot of oppressed white males in this thread.

If the worst thing that has happened to you is someone thinks you’re racist because you’re white, you’re living a pretty good life.

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

DominicCobb said:

Warbler said:

yhwx said:

Warbler said:

I guess the only way to fix this is to give the NAACP all the rights to the Merriam-Webster Dictionary and then they can “correct” all the definition of words therein.

Also not how anything works.

It sure seems like certain black people think only black people can define what words mean.

TV’s Frink said:

Holy shit dude.

Beat me to it.

well, do I get decide to define color blind, as treating people equally without regard to the color of their skin? Nope.

Do I get to decide that thug doesn’t mean anything racially? nope.

Do I get to decide that a white homeless guy isn’t privileged? nope.

But black people can decide the opposite. That seems to be the way thing work.

White privilege.

take white privilege and shove it up your ass

I am honestly sick and tired of this shit from you. It seems to be your “go to” for everything in these racial discussions.

It’s only my go to because you keep displaying it.

Why do you care so much that you aren’t allowed to say certain words because you’re white? Because you’re white, you can’t say the n-word. Meanwhile, because other people are black, they can’t assume they won’t get pulled over by the police because they are black. That’s the very definition of white privilege. The worst thing you have to deal with because you are white is not getting to decide what “thug” means. Get over it.

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

darthrush said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

In other racial news…

https://www.si.com/nfl/2017/08/15/espn-apology-fantasy-football-auction

Yikes. Great timing.

Is this really that big of a deal? They weren’t selling black people, they were doing a FANTASY auction of football players. It also included white players. According to the article you linked too, auctions are common in fantasy football.

"Auction drafts are a common part of fantasy football, and ESPN’s segments replicated an auction draft with a diverse slate of top professional football players. Without that context, we understand the optics could be portrayed as offensive, and we apologize,” ESPN said in a statement to USA TODAY Sports.

I’ve done Fantasy for many years now and this story proves that if someone does something as simple as taking something out of context, they’ll get offended real quick.

Just once I wish you guys could admit that maybe just maybe black people could have an issue with something that you guys don’t.

Just once I wish that you guys could admit that "maybe just maybe* just because some black people have an issue with something, doesn’t automatically make it a valid complaint.

Ok, good to know. Please be sure to let black people know each time what they are allowed to have an issue with, so they can stop making the same mistake of being offended by things that white people know they shouldn’t be offended by.

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

darthrush said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

In other racial news…

https://www.si.com/nfl/2017/08/15/espn-apology-fantasy-football-auction

Yikes. Great timing.

Is this really that big of a deal? They weren’t selling black people, they were doing a FANTASY auction of football players. It also included white players. According to the article you linked too, auctions are common in fantasy football.

"Auction drafts are a common part of fantasy football, and ESPN’s segments replicated an auction draft with a diverse slate of top professional football players. Without that context, we understand the optics could be portrayed as offensive, and we apologize,” ESPN said in a statement to USA TODAY Sports.

I’ve done Fantasy for many years now and this story proves that if someone does something as simple as taking something out of context, they’ll get offended real quick.

Just once I wish you guys could admit that maybe just maybe black people could have an issue with something that you guys don’t.

Just once I wish that you guys could admit that "maybe just maybe* just because some black people have an issue with something, doesn’t automatically make it a valid complaint.

Ok, good to know. Please be sure to let black people know each time what they are allowed to have an issue with, so they can stop making the same mistake of being offended.

*sigh*

Fact: People sometimes get offended at things that aren’t reasonable to be offended over.

Once again, thanks for clarifying that for black people. I’m sure they feel much better now.

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

I am sure if tree falls and no one is around, it still makes a noise. But obviously, if no one was around, no one heard the noise.

Ah ok so it’s ok to lecture black people as long as they aren’t listening.

All I am saying that I ought to be able to give my opinion on these things without being raked through the coals just because of my skin color.

Oh hi there white privilege, nice to see you again.

TV’s Frink said:

The color of your skin matters. If everything were equal, it wouldn’t matter, but it isn’t so it doesn’t.

If the worst thing your skin color has brought you is flak when you criticize black people, consider yourself lucky. Or continue to cling to the white privilege that is so important to you, despite the fact that it doesn’t matter in the slightest.

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

dahmage said:

darthrush said:

Warbler said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

I am sure if tree falls and no one is around, it still makes a noise. But obviously, if no one was around, no one heard the noise.

Ah ok so it’s ok to lecture black people as long as they aren’t listening.

All I am saying that I ought to be able to give my opinion on these things without being raked through the coals just because of my skin color.

Oh hi there white privilege, nice to see you again.

ah the answer that justifies all bigotry towards white people, including from some that are white themselves.

fixed.

Sounds about right.

I find it funny that Frink’s only response in any race argument is to devalue your opinion because of your skin color rather than address your opinion directly.

I find it funny that you are all so worried about bigotry toward white people. not that such a thing can’t or doesn’t exist, it does. but i don’t think you have shown any legit examples of it.

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

I am sure if tree falls and no one is around, it still makes a noise. But obviously, if no one was around, no one heard the noise.

Ah ok so it’s ok to lecture black people as long as they aren’t listening.

All I am saying that I ought to be able to give my opinion on these things without being raked through the coals just because of my skin color.

Oh hi there white privilege, nice to see you again.

That’s bigotry?

Hahahaha.

quit lecturing and policing my opinions.

As soon as you learn what bigotry is.

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

dahmage said:

darthrush said:

Warbler said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

I am sure if tree falls and no one is around, it still makes a noise. But obviously, if no one was around, no one heard the noise.

Ah ok so it’s ok to lecture black people as long as they aren’t listening.

All I am saying that I ought to be able to give my opinion on these things without being raked through the coals just because of my skin color.

Oh hi there white privilege, nice to see you again.

ah the answer that justifies all bigotry towards white people, including from some that are white themselves.

fixed.

Sounds about right.

I find it funny that Frink’s only response in any race argument is to devalue your opinion because of your skin color rather than address your opinion directly.

I find it funny that you are all so worried about bigotry toward white people. not that such a thing can’t or doesn’t exist, it does. but i don’t think you have shown any legit examples of it.

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

I am sure if tree falls and no one is around, it still makes a noise. But obviously, if no one was around, no one heard the noise.

Ah ok so it’s ok to lecture black people as long as they aren’t listening.

All I am saying that I ought to be able to give my opinion on these things without being raked through the coals just because of my skin color.

Oh hi there white privilege, nice to see you again.

That’s bigotry?

Hahahaha.

quit lecturing and policing my opinions.

As soon as you learn what bigotry is.

I know what bigotry is.

Clearly you don’t. If you did, you’d know that pointing out white privilege is not bigotry.

I could find others if I wanted to go deeper into the past. Also, this doesn’t include the times when you thought I was so clueless and white that it wasn’t worth your time talking to me about the issues.

Lets face it, when it comes to race issues you think I am clueless jackass and one of the reasons you think this, is because I am white.

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

Ok, even I think this is going too far.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/23/business/media/robert-lee-university-virginia-charlottesville.html

ESPN has removed an announcer from its broadcast of the University of Virginia’s first football game next month because he has the same name as a Confederate general memorialized in statues that are being taken down across the country.

The network announced late Tuesday that the announcer, Robert Lee, a part-time employee who calls about a dozen college football and basketball games a year for ESPN, would no longer participate in the broadcast of the Sept. 2 game in Charlottesville, Va., which became the center of violent clashes this month during a white supremacist gathering.

White nationalists and neo-Nazis flooded into Charlottesville, marching through the University of Virginia campus with torches, to protest the city’s plan to remove a statue of the Confederacy’s top general, Robert E. Lee.

After the violence in Charlottesville, which left one person dead, ESPN executives and Mr. Lee decided that for his safety it would be best to have him to work on a different game that Saturday, a network spokesman said.

“We collectively made the decision with Robert to switch games as the tragic events in Charlottesville were unfolding, simply because of the coincidence of his name,” ESPN said in a statement. “In that moment it felt right to all parties. It’s a shame that this is even a topic of conversation and we regret that who calls play-by-play for a football game has become an issue.”

Your opinion is invalid due to you being white.

Find me the black people who want this guy removed because of his name.

I am not going to try, but I am willing to bet I could find some idiot who happens to be black that wants it. There are idiots in all racial groups.

I never said white people cannot have any opinions on race.

You have many times said my opinions were invalid due to my race. You have also called my opinions, lectures and accused me of policing black peoples opinions due to my race.

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

darthrush said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

In other racial news…

https://www.si.com/nfl/2017/08/15/espn-apology-fantasy-football-auction

Yikes. Great timing.

Is this really that big of a deal? They weren’t selling black people, they were doing a FANTASY auction of football players. It also included white players. According to the article you linked too, auctions are common in fantasy football.

"Auction drafts are a common part of fantasy football, and ESPN’s segments replicated an auction draft with a diverse slate of top professional football players. Without that context, we understand the optics could be portrayed as offensive, and we apologize,” ESPN said in a statement to USA TODAY Sports.

I’ve done Fantasy for many years now and this story proves that if someone does something as simple as taking something out of context, they’ll get offended real quick.

Just once I wish you guys could admit that maybe just maybe black people could have an issue with something that you guys don’t.

Just once I wish that you guys could admit that "maybe just maybe* just because some black people have an issue with something, doesn’t automatically make it a valid complaint.

Ok, good to know. Please be sure to let black people know each time what they are allowed to have an issue with, so they can stop making the same mistake of being offended.

*sigh*

Fact: People sometimes get offended at things that aren’t reasonable to be offended over.

Once again, thanks for clarifying that for black people. I’m sure they feel much better now.

Do disagree with the fact that I stated? Are you saying it never happens that someone gets offended at something that wasn’t reasonable to get offended at? That never happens???

If a black person says they are offended because Jack White won’t change his name to Jack Black, I wouldn’t consider that reasonable. If a black person says they are offended because an ESPN sketch includes something that is reminiscent of a slave auction, I’m not gonna argue.

So you have the right to judge black people’s opinions, but I do not?

Ryan McAvoy said:

Warbler said:

I know. My point is, I don’t want to be like the Nazis. Therefore, I am against censorship of speech that I disagree with/find offensive.

Nobody was being censored. As I only just explained, FOS is only possibly in question when the state or courts intervene. The Nazis were free (and legally approved apparently) to make their hateful, offensive and terrifying (to the people it was being directed at) speeches. People just didn’t like it and gave them a kicking for being such contemptible a**wipes.

You either didn’t read my posts or have misunderstood them. I didn’t say the people giving them a kicking was a violation of free speech. I was saying that if the government failed to charge the people that gave the kicking with assault, and failed to do so solely because the government didn’t like what the Nazis were saying, That would be violation of free speech.

You’d really stand there silent in the street and just watch a fully armed Nazi militia squad, with burning torches march past a Synagogue shouting anti-Semitic slogans because you didn’t want to impinge on the Nazi’s FOS? Exercise your own FOS and tell what sh*tty people they are, loudly.

absolutely! of course you can exercise your FOS and tell them what sh*tty people they are and do so loudly. What you can’t do is start violence. That was my point. Of course you might also consider doing this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTDhgR3p12w

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

I think it is wrong to treat me like some sort of clueless jackass due to my race. I wish you’d knock that off.

I don’t treat you that way. Show me some posts where I did that.

TV’s Frink said:

Goddamn there sure are a lot of oppressed white males in this thread.

If the worst thing that has happened to you is someone thinks you’re racist because you’re white, you’re living a pretty good life.

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

DominicCobb said:

Warbler said:

yhwx said:

Warbler said:

I guess the only way to fix this is to give the NAACP all the rights to the Merriam-Webster Dictionary and then they can “correct” all the definition of words therein.

Also not how anything works.

It sure seems like certain black people think only black people can define what words mean.

TV’s Frink said:

Holy shit dude.

Beat me to it.

well, do I get decide to define color blind, as treating people equally without regard to the color of their skin? Nope.

Do I get to decide that thug doesn’t mean anything racially? nope.

Do I get to decide that a white homeless guy isn’t privileged? nope.

But black people can decide the opposite. That seems to be the way thing work.

White privilege.

take white privilege and shove it up your ass

I am honestly sick and tired of this shit from you. It seems to be your “go to” for everything in these racial discussions.

It’s only my go to because you keep displaying it.

Why do you care so much that you aren’t allowed to say certain words because you’re white? Because you’re white, you can’t say the n-word. Meanwhile, because other people are black, they can’t assume they won’t get pulled over by the police because they are black. That’s the very definition of white privilege. The worst thing you have to deal with because you are white is not getting to decide what “thug” means. Get over it.

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

darthrush said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

In other racial news…

https://www.si.com/nfl/2017/08/15/espn-apology-fantasy-football-auction

Yikes. Great timing.

Is this really that big of a deal? They weren’t selling black people, they were doing a FANTASY auction of football players. It also included white players. According to the article you linked too, auctions are common in fantasy football.

"Auction drafts are a common part of fantasy football, and ESPN’s segments replicated an auction draft with a diverse slate of top professional football players. Without that context, we understand the optics could be portrayed as offensive, and we apologize,” ESPN said in a statement to USA TODAY Sports.

I’ve done Fantasy for many years now and this story proves that if someone does something as simple as taking something out of context, they’ll get offended real quick.

Just once I wish you guys could admit that maybe just maybe black people could have an issue with something that you guys don’t.

Just once I wish that you guys could admit that "maybe just maybe* just because some black people have an issue with something, doesn’t automatically make it a valid complaint.

Ok, good to know. Please be sure to let black people know each time what they are allowed to have an issue with, so they can stop making the same mistake of being offended by things that white people know they shouldn’t be offended by.

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

darthrush said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

In other racial news…

https://www.si.com/nfl/2017/08/15/espn-apology-fantasy-football-auction

Yikes. Great timing.

Is this really that big of a deal? They weren’t selling black people, they were doing a FANTASY auction of football players. It also included white players. According to the article you linked too, auctions are common in fantasy football.

"Auction drafts are a common part of fantasy football, and ESPN’s segments replicated an auction draft with a diverse slate of top professional football players. Without that context, we understand the optics could be portrayed as offensive, and we apologize,” ESPN said in a statement to USA TODAY Sports.

I’ve done Fantasy for many years now and this story proves that if someone does something as simple as taking something out of context, they’ll get offended real quick.

Just once I wish you guys could admit that maybe just maybe black people could have an issue with something that you guys don’t.

Just once I wish that you guys could admit that "maybe just maybe* just because some black people have an issue with something, doesn’t automatically make it a valid complaint.

Ok, good to know. Please be sure to let black people know each time what they are allowed to have an issue with, so they can stop making the same mistake of being offended.

*sigh*

Fact: People sometimes get offended at things that aren’t reasonable to be offended over.

Once again, thanks for clarifying that for black people. I’m sure they feel much better now.

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

I am sure if tree falls and no one is around, it still makes a noise. But obviously, if no one was around, no one heard the noise.

Ah ok so it’s ok to lecture black people as long as they aren’t listening.

All I am saying that I ought to be able to give my opinion on these things without being raked through the coals just because of my skin color.

Oh hi there white privilege, nice to see you again.

TV’s Frink said:

The color of your skin matters. If everything were equal, it wouldn’t matter, but it isn’t so it doesn’t.

If the worst thing your skin color has brought you is flak when you criticize black people, consider yourself lucky. Or continue to cling to the white privilege that is so important to you, despite the fact that it doesn’t matter in the slightest.

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

dahmage said:

darthrush said:

Warbler said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

I am sure if tree falls and no one is around, it still makes a noise. But obviously, if no one was around, no one heard the noise.

Ah ok so it’s ok to lecture black people as long as they aren’t listening.

All I am saying that I ought to be able to give my opinion on these things without being raked through the coals just because of my skin color.

Oh hi there white privilege, nice to see you again.

ah the answer that justifies all bigotry towards white people, including from some that are white themselves.

fixed.

Sounds about right.

I find it funny that Frink’s only response in any race argument is to devalue your opinion because of your skin color rather than address your opinion directly.

I find it funny that you are all so worried about bigotry toward white people. not that such a thing can’t or doesn’t exist, it does. but i don’t think you have shown any legit examples of it.

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

I am sure if tree falls and no one is around, it still makes a noise. But obviously, if no one was around, no one heard the noise.

Ah ok so it’s ok to lecture black people as long as they aren’t listening.

All I am saying that I ought to be able to give my opinion on these things without being raked through the coals just because of my skin color.

Oh hi there white privilege, nice to see you again.

That’s bigotry?

Hahahaha.

quit lecturing and policing my opinions.

As soon as you learn what bigotry is.

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

dahmage said:

darthrush said:

Warbler said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

I am sure if tree falls and no one is around, it still makes a noise. But obviously, if no one was around, no one heard the noise.

Ah ok so it’s ok to lecture black people as long as they aren’t listening.

All I am saying that I ought to be able to give my opinion on these things without being raked through the coals just because of my skin color.

Oh hi there white privilege, nice to see you again.

ah the answer that justifies all bigotry towards white people, including from some that are white themselves.

fixed.

Sounds about right.

I find it funny that Frink’s only response in any race argument is to devalue your opinion because of your skin color rather than address your opinion directly.

I find it funny that you are all so worried about bigotry toward white people. not that such a thing can’t or doesn’t exist, it does. but i don’t think you have shown any legit examples of it.

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

I am sure if tree falls and no one is around, it still makes a noise. But obviously, if no one was around, no one heard the noise.

Ah ok so it’s ok to lecture black people as long as they aren’t listening.

All I am saying that I ought to be able to give my opinion on these things without being raked through the coals just because of my skin color.

Oh hi there white privilege, nice to see you again.

That’s bigotry?

Hahahaha.

quit lecturing and policing my opinions.

As soon as you learn what bigotry is.

I know what bigotry is.

Clearly you don’t. If you did, you’d know that pointing out white privilege is not bigotry.

I could find others if I wanted to go deeper into the past. Also, this doesn’t include the times when you thought I was so clueless and white that it wasn’t worth your time talking to me about the issues.

Lets face it, when it comes to race issues you think I am clueless jackass and one of the reasons you think this, is because I am white.

I don’t think you’re a jackass. I think you are clueless on this issue, but you aren’t clueless because you are white. Plenty of white people understand what you do not.

So nice try but no sale.

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

I think it is wrong to treat me like some sort of clueless jackass due to my race. I wish you’d knock that off.

I don’t treat you that way. Show me some posts where I did that.

TV’s Frink said:

Goddamn there sure are a lot of oppressed white males in this thread.

If the worst thing that has happened to you is someone thinks you’re racist because you’re white, you’re living a pretty good life.

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

DominicCobb said:

Warbler said:

yhwx said:

Warbler said:

I guess the only way to fix this is to give the NAACP all the rights to the Merriam-Webster Dictionary and then they can “correct” all the definition of words therein.

Also not how anything works.

It sure seems like certain black people think only black people can define what words mean.

TV’s Frink said:

Holy shit dude.

Beat me to it.

well, do I get decide to define color blind, as treating people equally without regard to the color of their skin? Nope.

Do I get to decide that thug doesn’t mean anything racially? nope.

Do I get to decide that a white homeless guy isn’t privileged? nope.

But black people can decide the opposite. That seems to be the way thing work.

White privilege.

take white privilege and shove it up your ass

I am honestly sick and tired of this shit from you. It seems to be your “go to” for everything in these racial discussions.

It’s only my go to because you keep displaying it.

Why do you care so much that you aren’t allowed to say certain words because you’re white? Because you’re white, you can’t say the n-word. Meanwhile, because other people are black, they can’t assume they won’t get pulled over by the police because they are black. That’s the very definition of white privilege. The worst thing you have to deal with because you are white is not getting to decide what “thug” means. Get over it.

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

darthrush said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

In other racial news…

https://www.si.com/nfl/2017/08/15/espn-apology-fantasy-football-auction

Yikes. Great timing.

Is this really that big of a deal? They weren’t selling black people, they were doing a FANTASY auction of football players. It also included white players. According to the article you linked too, auctions are common in fantasy football.

"Auction drafts are a common part of fantasy football, and ESPN’s segments replicated an auction draft with a diverse slate of top professional football players. Without that context, we understand the optics could be portrayed as offensive, and we apologize,” ESPN said in a statement to USA TODAY Sports.

I’ve done Fantasy for many years now and this story proves that if someone does something as simple as taking something out of context, they’ll get offended real quick.

Just once I wish you guys could admit that maybe just maybe black people could have an issue with something that you guys don’t.

Just once I wish that you guys could admit that "maybe just maybe* just because some black people have an issue with something, doesn’t automatically make it a valid complaint.

Ok, good to know. Please be sure to let black people know each time what they are allowed to have an issue with, so they can stop making the same mistake of being offended by things that white people know they shouldn’t be offended by.

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

darthrush said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

In other racial news…

https://www.si.com/nfl/2017/08/15/espn-apology-fantasy-football-auction

Yikes. Great timing.

Is this really that big of a deal? They weren’t selling black people, they were doing a FANTASY auction of football players. It also included white players. According to the article you linked too, auctions are common in fantasy football.

"Auction drafts are a common part of fantasy football, and ESPN’s segments replicated an auction draft with a diverse slate of top professional football players. Without that context, we understand the optics could be portrayed as offensive, and we apologize,” ESPN said in a statement to USA TODAY Sports.

I’ve done Fantasy for many years now and this story proves that if someone does something as simple as taking something out of context, they’ll get offended real quick.

Just once I wish you guys could admit that maybe just maybe black people could have an issue with something that you guys don’t.

Just once I wish that you guys could admit that "maybe just maybe* just because some black people have an issue with something, doesn’t automatically make it a valid complaint.

Ok, good to know. Please be sure to let black people know each time what they are allowed to have an issue with, so they can stop making the same mistake of being offended.

*sigh*

Fact: People sometimes get offended at things that aren’t reasonable to be offended over.

Once again, thanks for clarifying that for black people. I’m sure they feel much better now.

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

I am sure if tree falls and no one is around, it still makes a noise. But obviously, if no one was around, no one heard the noise.

Ah ok so it’s ok to lecture black people as long as they aren’t listening.

All I am saying that I ought to be able to give my opinion on these things without being raked through the coals just because of my skin color.

Oh hi there white privilege, nice to see you again.

TV’s Frink said:

The color of your skin matters. If everything were equal, it wouldn’t matter, but it isn’t so it doesn’t.

If the worst thing your skin color has brought you is flak when you criticize black people, consider yourself lucky. Or continue to cling to the white privilege that is so important to you, despite the fact that it doesn’t matter in the slightest.

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

dahmage said:

darthrush said:

Warbler said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

I am sure if tree falls and no one is around, it still makes a noise. But obviously, if no one was around, no one heard the noise.

Ah ok so it’s ok to lecture black people as long as they aren’t listening.

All I am saying that I ought to be able to give my opinion on these things without being raked through the coals just because of my skin color.

Oh hi there white privilege, nice to see you again.

ah the answer that justifies all bigotry towards white people, including from some that are white themselves.

fixed.

Sounds about right.

I find it funny that Frink’s only response in any race argument is to devalue your opinion because of your skin color rather than address your opinion directly.

I find it funny that you are all so worried about bigotry toward white people. not that such a thing can’t or doesn’t exist, it does. but i don’t think you have shown any legit examples of it.

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

I am sure if tree falls and no one is around, it still makes a noise. But obviously, if no one was around, no one heard the noise.

Ah ok so it’s ok to lecture black people as long as they aren’t listening.

All I am saying that I ought to be able to give my opinion on these things without being raked through the coals just because of my skin color.

Oh hi there white privilege, nice to see you again.

That’s bigotry?

Hahahaha.

quit lecturing and policing my opinions.

As soon as you learn what bigotry is.

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

dahmage said:

darthrush said:

Warbler said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

I am sure if tree falls and no one is around, it still makes a noise. But obviously, if no one was around, no one heard the noise.

Ah ok so it’s ok to lecture black people as long as they aren’t listening.

All I am saying that I ought to be able to give my opinion on these things without being raked through the coals just because of my skin color.

Oh hi there white privilege, nice to see you again.

ah the answer that justifies all bigotry towards white people, including from some that are white themselves.

fixed.

Sounds about right.

I find it funny that Frink’s only response in any race argument is to devalue your opinion because of your skin color rather than address your opinion directly.

I find it funny that you are all so worried about bigotry toward white people. not that such a thing can’t or doesn’t exist, it does. but i don’t think you have shown any legit examples of it.

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

I am sure if tree falls and no one is around, it still makes a noise. But obviously, if no one was around, no one heard the noise.

Ah ok so it’s ok to lecture black people as long as they aren’t listening.

All I am saying that I ought to be able to give my opinion on these things without being raked through the coals just because of my skin color.

Oh hi there white privilege, nice to see you again.

That’s bigotry?

Hahahaha.

quit lecturing and policing my opinions.

As soon as you learn what bigotry is.

I know what bigotry is.

Clearly you don’t. If you did, you’d know that pointing out white privilege is not bigotry.

I could find others if I wanted to go deeper into the past. Also, this doesn’t include the times when you thought I was so clueless and white that it wasn’t worth your time talking to me about the issues.

Lets face it, when it comes to race issues you think I am clueless jackass and one of the reasons you think this, is because I am white.

I don’t think you’re a jackass. I think you are clueless on this issue, but you aren’t clueless because you are white. Plenty of white people understand what you do not.

So nice try but no sale.

Would you think I was clueless on the issue if I said everything I said, exactly the same, word for word, but I was black?

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

Ok, even I think this is going too far.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/23/business/media/robert-lee-university-virginia-charlottesville.html

ESPN has removed an announcer from its broadcast of the University of Virginia’s first football game next month because he has the same name as a Confederate general memorialized in statues that are being taken down across the country.

The network announced late Tuesday that the announcer, Robert Lee, a part-time employee who calls about a dozen college football and basketball games a year for ESPN, would no longer participate in the broadcast of the Sept. 2 game in Charlottesville, Va., which became the center of violent clashes this month during a white supremacist gathering.

White nationalists and neo-Nazis flooded into Charlottesville, marching through the University of Virginia campus with torches, to protest the city’s plan to remove a statue of the Confederacy’s top general, Robert E. Lee.

After the violence in Charlottesville, which left one person dead, ESPN executives and Mr. Lee decided that for his safety it would be best to have him to work on a different game that Saturday, a network spokesman said.

“We collectively made the decision with Robert to switch games as the tragic events in Charlottesville were unfolding, simply because of the coincidence of his name,” ESPN said in a statement. “In that moment it felt right to all parties. It’s a shame that this is even a topic of conversation and we regret that who calls play-by-play for a football game has become an issue.”

Your opinion is invalid due to you being white.

Find me the black people who want this guy removed because of his name.

I am not going to try, but I am willing to bet I could find some idiot who happens to be black that wants it. There are idiots in all racial groups.

Yes, there are idiots in all groups, racial or otherwise. There were plenty of rational people who felt ESPN made a mistake in running the auction ad. I’m sure you can find a few nutjob black people (like that Blacks for Trump guy) who think a random white dude named Robert Lee shouldn’t call a basketball game, but that’s not because they’re black, it’s because they’re nutjobs.

I never said white people cannot have any opinions on race.

You have many times said my opinions were invalid due to my race. You have also called my opinions, lectures and accused me of policing black peoples opinions due to my race.

It’s like you don’t or are not capable of understanding words. I never said white people cannot have any opinions on race. That is not the same thing as saying white people should not have opinions on certain specific racial issues. If you can’t understand that I can’t say it any clearer.

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

darthrush said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

In other racial news…

https://www.si.com/nfl/2017/08/15/espn-apology-fantasy-football-auction

Yikes. Great timing.

Is this really that big of a deal? They weren’t selling black people, they were doing a FANTASY auction of football players. It also included white players. According to the article you linked too, auctions are common in fantasy football.

"Auction drafts are a common part of fantasy football, and ESPN’s segments replicated an auction draft with a diverse slate of top professional football players. Without that context, we understand the optics could be portrayed as offensive, and we apologize,” ESPN said in a statement to USA TODAY Sports.

I’ve done Fantasy for many years now and this story proves that if someone does something as simple as taking something out of context, they’ll get offended real quick.

Just once I wish you guys could admit that maybe just maybe black people could have an issue with something that you guys don’t.

Just once I wish that you guys could admit that "maybe just maybe* just because some black people have an issue with something, doesn’t automatically make it a valid complaint.

Ok, good to know. Please be sure to let black people know each time what they are allowed to have an issue with, so they can stop making the same mistake of being offended.

*sigh*

Fact: People sometimes get offended at things that aren’t reasonable to be offended over.

Once again, thanks for clarifying that for black people. I’m sure they feel much better now.

Do disagree with the fact that I stated? Are you saying it never happens that someone gets offended at something that wasn’t reasonable to get offended at? That never happens???

If a black person says they are offended because Jack White won’t change his name to Jack Black, I wouldn’t consider that reasonable. If a black person says they are offended because an ESPN sketch includes something that is reminiscent of a slave auction, I’m not gonna argue.

So you have the right to judge black people’s opinions, but I do not?

You keep trying to make everything a black/white issue (forgive the pun but it fits) with no nuance or flexibility. I never said the majority of the things you are accusing me of saying.

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

I think it is wrong to treat me like some sort of clueless jackass due to my race. I wish you’d knock that off.

I don’t treat you that way. Show me some posts where I did that.

TV’s Frink said:

Goddamn there sure are a lot of oppressed white males in this thread.

If the worst thing that has happened to you is someone thinks you’re racist because you’re white, you’re living a pretty good life.

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

DominicCobb said:

Warbler said:

yhwx said:

Warbler said:

I guess the only way to fix this is to give the NAACP all the rights to the Merriam-Webster Dictionary and then they can “correct” all the definition of words therein.

Also not how anything works.

It sure seems like certain black people think only black people can define what words mean.

TV’s Frink said:

Holy shit dude.

Beat me to it.

well, do I get decide to define color blind, as treating people equally without regard to the color of their skin? Nope.

Do I get to decide that thug doesn’t mean anything racially? nope.

Do I get to decide that a white homeless guy isn’t privileged? nope.

But black people can decide the opposite. That seems to be the way thing work.

White privilege.

take white privilege and shove it up your ass

I am honestly sick and tired of this shit from you. It seems to be your “go to” for everything in these racial discussions.

It’s only my go to because you keep displaying it.

Why do you care so much that you aren’t allowed to say certain words because you’re white? Because you’re white, you can’t say the n-word. Meanwhile, because other people are black, they can’t assume they won’t get pulled over by the police because they are black. That’s the very definition of white privilege. The worst thing you have to deal with because you are white is not getting to decide what “thug” means. Get over it.

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

darthrush said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

In other racial news…

https://www.si.com/nfl/2017/08/15/espn-apology-fantasy-football-auction

Yikes. Great timing.

Is this really that big of a deal? They weren’t selling black people, they were doing a FANTASY auction of football players. It also included white players. According to the article you linked too, auctions are common in fantasy football.

"Auction drafts are a common part of fantasy football, and ESPN’s segments replicated an auction draft with a diverse slate of top professional football players. Without that context, we understand the optics could be portrayed as offensive, and we apologize,” ESPN said in a statement to USA TODAY Sports.

I’ve done Fantasy for many years now and this story proves that if someone does something as simple as taking something out of context, they’ll get offended real quick.

Just once I wish you guys could admit that maybe just maybe black people could have an issue with something that you guys don’t.

Just once I wish that you guys could admit that "maybe just maybe* just because some black people have an issue with something, doesn’t automatically make it a valid complaint.

Ok, good to know. Please be sure to let black people know each time what they are allowed to have an issue with, so they can stop making the same mistake of being offended by things that white people know they shouldn’t be offended by.

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

darthrush said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

In other racial news…

https://www.si.com/nfl/2017/08/15/espn-apology-fantasy-football-auction

Yikes. Great timing.

Is this really that big of a deal? They weren’t selling black people, they were doing a FANTASY auction of football players. It also included white players. According to the article you linked too, auctions are common in fantasy football.

"Auction drafts are a common part of fantasy football, and ESPN’s segments replicated an auction draft with a diverse slate of top professional football players. Without that context, we understand the optics could be portrayed as offensive, and we apologize,” ESPN said in a statement to USA TODAY Sports.

I’ve done Fantasy for many years now and this story proves that if someone does something as simple as taking something out of context, they’ll get offended real quick.

Just once I wish you guys could admit that maybe just maybe black people could have an issue with something that you guys don’t.

Just once I wish that you guys could admit that "maybe just maybe* just because some black people have an issue with something, doesn’t automatically make it a valid complaint.

Ok, good to know. Please be sure to let black people know each time what they are allowed to have an issue with, so they can stop making the same mistake of being offended.

*sigh*

Fact: People sometimes get offended at things that aren’t reasonable to be offended over.

Once again, thanks for clarifying that for black people. I’m sure they feel much better now.

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

I am sure if tree falls and no one is around, it still makes a noise. But obviously, if no one was around, no one heard the noise.

Ah ok so it’s ok to lecture black people as long as they aren’t listening.

All I am saying that I ought to be able to give my opinion on these things without being raked through the coals just because of my skin color.

Oh hi there white privilege, nice to see you again.

TV’s Frink said:

The color of your skin matters. If everything were equal, it wouldn’t matter, but it isn’t so it doesn’t.

If the worst thing your skin color has brought you is flak when you criticize black people, consider yourself lucky. Or continue to cling to the white privilege that is so important to you, despite the fact that it doesn’t matter in the slightest.

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

dahmage said:

darthrush said:

Warbler said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

I am sure if tree falls and no one is around, it still makes a noise. But obviously, if no one was around, no one heard the noise.

Ah ok so it’s ok to lecture black people as long as they aren’t listening.

All I am saying that I ought to be able to give my opinion on these things without being raked through the coals just because of my skin color.

Oh hi there white privilege, nice to see you again.

ah the answer that justifies all bigotry towards white people, including from some that are white themselves.

fixed.

Sounds about right.

I find it funny that Frink’s only response in any race argument is to devalue your opinion because of your skin color rather than address your opinion directly.

I find it funny that you are all so worried about bigotry toward white people. not that such a thing can’t or doesn’t exist, it does. but i don’t think you have shown any legit examples of it.

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

I am sure if tree falls and no one is around, it still makes a noise. But obviously, if no one was around, no one heard the noise.

Ah ok so it’s ok to lecture black people as long as they aren’t listening.

All I am saying that I ought to be able to give my opinion on these things without being raked through the coals just because of my skin color.

Oh hi there white privilege, nice to see you again.

That’s bigotry?

Hahahaha.

quit lecturing and policing my opinions.

As soon as you learn what bigotry is.

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

dahmage said:

darthrush said:

Warbler said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

I am sure if tree falls and no one is around, it still makes a noise. But obviously, if no one was around, no one heard the noise.

Ah ok so it’s ok to lecture black people as long as they aren’t listening.

All I am saying that I ought to be able to give my opinion on these things without being raked through the coals just because of my skin color.

Oh hi there white privilege, nice to see you again.

ah the answer that justifies all bigotry towards white people, including from some that are white themselves.

fixed.

Sounds about right.

I find it funny that Frink’s only response in any race argument is to devalue your opinion because of your skin color rather than address your opinion directly.

I find it funny that you are all so worried about bigotry toward white people. not that such a thing can’t or doesn’t exist, it does. but i don’t think you have shown any legit examples of it.

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

I am sure if tree falls and no one is around, it still makes a noise. But obviously, if no one was around, no one heard the noise.

Ah ok so it’s ok to lecture black people as long as they aren’t listening.

All I am saying that I ought to be able to give my opinion on these things without being raked through the coals just because of my skin color.

Oh hi there white privilege, nice to see you again.

That’s bigotry?

Hahahaha.

quit lecturing and policing my opinions.

As soon as you learn what bigotry is.

I know what bigotry is.

Clearly you don’t. If you did, you’d know that pointing out white privilege is not bigotry.

I could find others if I wanted to go deeper into the past. Also, this doesn’t include the times when you thought I was so clueless and white that it wasn’t worth your time talking to me about the issues.

Lets face it, when it comes to race issues you think I am clueless jackass and one of the reasons you think this, is because I am white.

I don’t think you’re a jackass. I think you are clueless on this issue, but you aren’t clueless because you are white. Plenty of white people understand what you do not.

So nice try but no sale.

Would you think I was clueless on the issue if I said everything I said, exactly the same, word for word, but I was black?

I can’t remember every damn thing you’ve said, but I’d probably be likely to give you more latitude, depending on the issue and situation. And I’ve already answered that anyway with several examples.

You cannot seem to understand for some reason that you can’t keep making these inflexible rules that you want to fit the entire world into for every situation.

And once again, the fact that you would get so upset about not getting to weigh in on an issue affecting black people, because you are white, is the perfect example of white privilege. Who gives a shit? You shouldn’t.

TV’s Frink said:

Ok, even I think this is going too far.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/23/business/media/robert-lee-university-virginia-charlottesville.html

ESPN has removed an announcer from its broadcast of the University of Virginia’s first football game next month because he has the same name as a Confederate general memorialized in statues that are being taken down across the country.

The network announced late Tuesday that the announcer, Robert Lee, a part-time employee who calls about a dozen college football and basketball games a year for ESPN, would no longer participate in the broadcast of the Sept. 2 game in Charlottesville, Va., which became the center of violent clashes this month during a white supremacist gathering.

White nationalists and neo-Nazis flooded into Charlottesville, marching through the University of Virginia campus with torches, to protest the city’s plan to remove a statue of the Confederacy’s top general, Robert E. Lee.

After the violence in Charlottesville, which left one person dead, ESPN executives and Mr. Lee decided that for his safety it would be best to have him to work on a different game that Saturday, a network spokesman said.

“We collectively made the decision with Robert to switch games as the tragic events in Charlottesville were unfolding, simply because of the coincidence of his name,” ESPN said in a statement. “In that moment it felt right to all parties. It’s a shame that this is even a topic of conversation and we regret that who calls play-by-play for a football game has become an issue.”

At first I thought, “that’s ridiculous, they removed him because of his name?” Then I realized they basically just had him switch which game he was calling. I mean, it’s still silly, but it’s not that big a deal and I get why.

I wouldn’t try to claim it’s a big deal, I just think it’s silly like you say. They say they are concerned for his safety, which seems overblown.

If someone is eating an apple and another person is just watching them eat the apple, which one has the more qualified opinion on the quality of that apple?

TV’s Frink said:

I wouldn’t try to claim it’s a big deal, I just think it’s silly like you say. They say they are concerned for his safety, which seems overblown.

No doubt.

Worst that would have happened would be someone would say “that’s an unfortunate coincidence, why didn’t anyone at ESPN notice that?”