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That’s not context, that’s some guy’s twitter feed. But don’t worry, I don’t really care anyway.
Complete sentences is a you problem.
That doesn’t sense.
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http://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-warns-north-korea-will-be-met-with-fire-and-fury/
President Trump addressed the ongoing crisis between the U.S. and North Korea at a briefing on opioids in New Jersey on Tuesday, issuing a stern warning to the regime for its continued provocations.
“North Korea best not make any more threats to the United States,” warned Mr. Trump from his golf club in Bedminster.
“They will be met with fire and fury like the world has never seen,” he told reporters. “He has been very threatening – beyond a normal statement,” Mr. Trump said of North Korean leader Kim Jong-un. “As I said, they will be met with fire, fury and frankly power the likes of which this world has never seen before.”
Humanity has had a good run.
But her emails.
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Is a boy more into sports because he has a penis or because his Dad liked sports and the other boys liked sports and they all looked down on him until he liked sports?
I’m guessing it’s the latter.
What about transgendered people? When they are young, aren’t they given the clothes and the toys of the gender everyone things they are and they sometimes reject them and prefer the toys and cloths of the other gender?
Often, yes.
Not sure what your point is, unless you’re just agreeing with me.
My point is that maybe there is something about what gender your brain is that affects what you like that don’t like. You said that maybe the only reason a boy likes sports is because his Dad did and how other boys would look down on him for not liking sports. If what you said is true, then a person born with the mind of girl but the body of a boy would still end up liking sports and the same would true of toys and clothes, yet we know it doesn’t work like that.
Newsflash: Some girls like football and Star Wars, some boys like My Little Pony Friendship is Magic. A person with the mind of a girl but the body of a boy absolutely can end up liking sports and “boy” toys and clothes. You may think it doesn’t work like that but I guarantee you are wrong.
Newsflash: More boys than girls like football and Star Wars, more girls than boys like My Little Pony Friendship is Magic. A person with mind of girl but the body of a boy tends to reject the boy clothes and toys the person is given and instead favors the girl cloths and toys the same is also true of sports. You may think it doesn’t work like that but I guarantee you are wrong.
Newsflash: Parents want their kids to conform to their preconceived stereotypes. If their kid is a boy, they’re more likely to try to get them to act like a boy. Kids see stereotypes of gender in media. They carry these throughout their life. Kids can also be bullied if they don’t like the “right” thing. You may think it doesn’t work like that but I guarantee you are wrong.
I agree, but it doesn’t explain what someone with the body of a boy but the mind of a girl still ends up like girl clothes and toys despite the parents attempts to get them to conform to “preconceived stereotypes” and the stereotypes of gender in the media and the bullying.
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Is a boy more into sports because he has a penis or because his Dad liked sports and the other boys liked sports and they all looked down on him until he liked sports?
I’m guessing it’s the latter.
What about transgendered people? When they are young, aren’t they given the clothes and the toys of the gender everyone things they are and they sometimes reject them and prefer the toys and cloths of the other gender?
Often, yes.
Not sure what your point is, unless you’re just agreeing with me.
My point is that maybe there is something about what gender your brain is that affects what you like that don’t like. You said that maybe the only reason a boy likes sports is because his Dad did and how other boys would look down on him for not liking sports. If what you said is true, then a person born with the mind of girl but the body of a boy would still end up liking sports and the same would true of toys and clothes, yet we know it doesn’t work like that.
Newsflash: Some girls like football and Star Wars, some boys like My Little Pony Friendship is Magic. A person with the mind of a girl but the body of a boy absolutely can end up liking sports and “boy” toys and clothes. You may think it doesn’t work like that but I guarantee you are wrong.
Newsflash: More boys than girls like football and Star Wars, more girls than boys like My Little Pony Friendship is Magic.
But that doesn’t give someone license to outright tell girls that they aren’t employed in certain jobs because get-over-it.
Is that what I was doing?
People can like what they do or dislike what they don’t. But that doesn’t excuse general meanness and bad attitude.
I agree.
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Is a boy more into sports because he has a penis or because his Dad liked sports and the other boys liked sports and they all looked down on him until he liked sports?
I’m guessing it’s the latter.
What about transgendered people? When they are young, aren’t they given the clothes and the toys of the gender everyone things they are and they sometimes reject them and prefer the toys and cloths of the other gender?
Often, yes.
Not sure what your point is, unless you’re just agreeing with me.
My point is that maybe there is something about what gender your brain is that affects what you like that don’t like. You said that maybe the only reason a boy likes sports is because his Dad did and how other boys would look down on him for not liking sports. If what you said is true, then a person born with the mind of girl but the body of a boy would still end up liking sports and the same would true of toys and clothes, yet we know it doesn’t work like that.
Newsflash: Some girls like football and Star Wars, some boys like My Little Pony Friendship is Magic. A person with the mind of a girl but the body of a boy absolutely can end up liking sports and “boy” toys and clothes. You may think it doesn’t work like that but I guarantee you are wrong.
Newsflash: More boys than girls like football and Star Wars, more girls than boys like My Little Pony Friendship is Magic. A person with mind of girl but the body of a boy tends to reject the boy clothes and toys the person is given and instead favors the girl cloths and toys the same is also true of sports. You may think it doesn’t work like that but I guarantee you are wrong.
You aren’t hearing anything I’m saying.
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Is a boy more into sports because he has a penis or because his Dad liked sports and the other boys liked sports and they all looked down on him until he liked sports?
I’m guessing it’s the latter.
What about transgendered people? When they are young, aren’t they given the clothes and the toys of the gender everyone things they are and they sometimes reject them and prefer the toys and cloths of the other gender?
Often, yes.
Not sure what your point is, unless you’re just agreeing with me.
My point is that maybe there is something about what gender your brain is that affects what you like that don’t like. You said that maybe the only reason a boy likes sports is because his Dad did and how other boys would look down on him for not liking sports. If what you said is true, then a person born with the mind of girl but the body of a boy would still end up liking sports and the same would true of toys and clothes, yet we know it doesn’t work like that.
Newsflash: Some girls like football and Star Wars, some boys like My Little Pony Friendship is Magic. A person with the mind of a girl but the body of a boy absolutely can end up liking sports and “boy” toys and clothes. You may think it doesn’t work like that but I guarantee you are wrong.
Newsflash: More boys than girls like football and Star Wars, more girls than boys like My Little Pony Friendship is Magic. A person with mind of girl but the body of a boy tends to reject the boy clothes and toys the person is given and instead favors the girl cloths and toys the same is also true of sports. You may think it doesn’t work like that but I guarantee you are wrong.
Newsflash: Parents want their kids to conform to their preconceived stereotypes. If their kid is a boy, they’re more likely to try to get them to act like a boy. Kids see stereotypes of gender in media. They carry these throughout their life. Kids can also be bullied if they don’t like the “right” thing. You may think it doesn’t work like that but I guarantee you are wrong.
I agree, but it doesn’t explain what someone with the body of a boy but the mind a girl still ends up like girl clothes
Newsflash: This doesn’t happen all the time.
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Is a boy more into sports because he has a penis or because his Dad liked sports and the other boys liked sports and they all looked down on him until he liked sports?
I’m guessing it’s the latter.
What about transgendered people? When they are young, aren’t they given the clothes and the toys of the gender everyone things they are and they sometimes reject them and prefer the toys and cloths of the other gender?
Often, yes.
Not sure what your point is, unless you’re just agreeing with me.
My point is that maybe there is something about what gender your brain is that affects what you like that don’t like. You said that maybe the only reason a boy likes sports is because his Dad did and how other boys would look down on him for not liking sports. If what you said is true, then a person born with the mind of girl but the body of a boy would still end up liking sports and the same would true of toys and clothes, yet we know it doesn’t work like that.
Newsflash: Some girls like football and Star Wars, some boys like My Little Pony Friendship is Magic. A person with the mind of a girl but the body of a boy absolutely can end up liking sports and “boy” toys and clothes. You may think it doesn’t work like that but I guarantee you are wrong.
Newsflash: More boys than girls like football and Star Wars, more girls than boys like My Little Pony Friendship is Magic. A person with mind of girl but the body of a boy tends to reject the boy clothes and toys the person is given and instead favors the girl cloths and toys the same is also true of sports. You may think it doesn’t work like that but I guarantee you are wrong.
You aren’t hearing anything I’m saying.
I don’t think you are hearing anything I’m saying.
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Is a boy more into sports because he has a penis or because his Dad liked sports and the other boys liked sports and they all looked down on him until he liked sports?
I’m guessing it’s the latter.
What about transgendered people? When they are young, aren’t they given the clothes and the toys of the gender everyone things they are and they sometimes reject them and prefer the toys and cloths of the other gender?
Often, yes.
Not sure what your point is, unless you’re just agreeing with me.
My point is that maybe there is something about what gender your brain is that affects what you like that don’t like. You said that maybe the only reason a boy likes sports is because his Dad did and how other boys would look down on him for not liking sports. If what you said is true, then a person born with the mind of girl but the body of a boy would still end up liking sports and the same would true of toys and clothes, yet we know it doesn’t work like that.
Newsflash: Some girls like football and Star Wars, some boys like My Little Pony Friendship is Magic. A person with the mind of a girl but the body of a boy absolutely can end up liking sports and “boy” toys and clothes. You may think it doesn’t work like that but I guarantee you are wrong.
Newsflash: More boys than girls like football and Star Wars, more girls than boys like My Little Pony Friendship is Magic. A person with mind of girl but the body of a boy tends to reject the boy clothes and toys the person is given and instead favors the girl cloths and toys the same is also true of sports. You may think it doesn’t work like that but I guarantee you are wrong.
Newsflash: Parents want their kids to conform to their preconceived stereotypes. If their kid is a boy, they’re more likely to try to get them to act like a boy. Kids see stereotypes of gender in media. They carry these throughout their life. Kids can also be bullied if they don’t like the “right” thing. You may think it doesn’t work like that but I guarantee you are wrong.
I agree, but it doesn’t explain what someone with the body of a boy but the mind a girl still ends up like girl clothes
Newsflash: This doesn’t happen all the time.
Newsflash: It happens the majority of the time.
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Is a boy more into sports because he has a penis or because his Dad liked sports and the other boys liked sports and they all looked down on him until he liked sports?
I’m guessing it’s the latter.
What about transgendered people? When they are young, aren’t they given the clothes and the toys of the gender everyone things they are and they sometimes reject them and prefer the toys and cloths of the other gender?
Often, yes.
Not sure what your point is, unless you’re just agreeing with me.
My point is that maybe there is something about what gender your brain is that affects what you like that don’t like. You said that maybe the only reason a boy likes sports is because his Dad did and how other boys would look down on him for not liking sports. If what you said is true, then a person born with the mind of girl but the body of a boy would still end up liking sports and the same would true of toys and clothes, yet we know it doesn’t work like that.
Newsflash: Some girls like football and Star Wars, some boys like My Little Pony Friendship is Magic. A person with the mind of a girl but the body of a boy absolutely can end up liking sports and “boy” toys and clothes. You may think it doesn’t work like that but I guarantee you are wrong.
Newsflash: More boys than girls like football and Star Wars, more girls than boys like My Little Pony Friendship is Magic.
But that doesn’t give someone license to outright tell girls that they aren’t employed in certain jobs because get-over-it.
Is that what I was doing?
You were justifying the doing of that by another person.
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I was?
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In other news:
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-warns-north-korea-will-be-met-with-fire-and-fury/
President Trump addressed the ongoing crisis between the U.S. and North Korea at a briefing on opioids in New Jersey on Tuesday, issuing a stern warning to the regime for its continued provocations.
“North Korea best not make any more threats to the United States,” warned Mr. Trump from his golf club in Bedminster.
“They will be met with fire and fury like the world has never seen,” he told reporters. “He has been very threatening – beyond a normal statement,” Mr. Trump said of North Korean leader Kim Jong-un. “As I said, they will be met with fire, fury and frankly power the likes of which this world has never seen before.”
Humanity has had a good run.
I’m not going to panic unless all the Dolphins suddenly leave.
Besides, they probably didn’t give Trump the real Football. It’s just a briefcase with a bunch of flashing lights from a pinball machine, and one of those big red Staples Easy buttons with Nuke stenciled on it.
Where were you in '77?
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I was?
Any guy who writes a ten page misogynist manifesto is probably an all around cad. Doubt this was the only reason they fired him.
But yeah of course Google is dumb, they should be hiring more people with regressive ideas about gender, that definitely makes sense.
It is only your opinion that it was a misogynist manifesto and it is only your opinion that the he has regressive ideas about gender.
Imo, it makes sense that gender could affect one’s personality, and that could have an affect on career choices. Gender has an affect on what movies people like(there is a reason the term “chick-flick” exists) and whether or not they are sports fans, doesn’t it? Lets say you were at an American football stadium while a game was going on, if you had bet whether there were more men or women there, which way would you bet?
I’m guessing it’s the latter.
Instead of just guessing, how about we turn to science to answer the question? I think that was more or less the point of that 10 page letter that guy from Google wrote.
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Is a boy more into sports because he has a penis or because his Dad liked sports and the other boys liked sports and they all looked down on him until he liked sports?
I’m guessing it’s the latter.
What about transgendered people? When they are young, aren’t they given the clothes and the toys of the gender everyone things they are and they sometimes reject them and prefer the toys and cloths of the other gender?
Often, yes.
Not sure what your point is, unless you’re just agreeing with me.
My point is that maybe there is something about what gender your brain is that affects what you like that don’t like. You said that maybe the only reason a boy likes sports is because his Dad did and how other boys would look down on him for not liking sports. If what you said is true, then a person born with the mind of girl but the body of a boy would still end up liking sports and the same would true of toys and clothes, yet we know it doesn’t work like that.
Newsflash: Some girls like football and Star Wars, some boys like My Little Pony Friendship is Magic. A person with the mind of a girl but the body of a boy absolutely can end up liking sports and “boy” toys and clothes. You may think it doesn’t work like that but I guarantee you are wrong.
Newsflash: More boys than girls like football and Star Wars, more girls than boys like My Little Pony Friendship is Magic. A person with mind of girl but the body of a boy tends to reject the boy clothes and toys the person is given and instead favors the girl cloths and toys the same is also true of sports. You may think it doesn’t work like that but I guarantee you are wrong.
Newsflash: Parents want their kids to conform to their preconceived stereotypes. If their kid is a boy, they’re more likely to try to get them to act like a boy. Kids see stereotypes of gender in media. They carry these throughout their life. Kids can also be bullied if they don’t like the “right” thing. You may think it doesn’t work like that but I guarantee you are wrong.
Do any of you have kids?
I am a father to a 2.5 year old daughter, and her preferences, while influenced by me, are so very obviously to me not altogether of my or my wife’s making. She likes pink. She likes yellow. But that’s not because we actively encourage it by pushing it on her. As a parent, I am learning how much of who God made her to be, as well as trying to train her in the ways I think is best for her.
As a parent, I grow increasingly annoyed at accusations that parents brainwash or wrongfully indoctrinate their kids.
chyron just put a big Ric pic in your sig and be done with it.
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I am a father to a 2.5 year old daughter, and her preferences, while influenced by me, are so very obviously to me not altogether of my or my wife’s making.
As a parent, I grow increasingly annoyed at accusations that parents brainwash or wrongfully indoctrinate their kids.
Absolutely agree. But I believe the current thinking is that by the time the average child is 2 years old, their parents are no longer the primary external influence on them. So while there’s a hell of a lot of internal causes, there are also a hell of a lot of external causes, and the parents really barely factor into it beyond the first couple years.
That said, I know some trans kids. They are not boys who see all the media’s messaging (and parental/peer messaging) about how boys should act and reject it. They do not see other boys and say “I’m a boy but I don’t want to be like that”. They are girls who see all the media’s messaging (and parental/peer messaging) about how girls should act and largely accept it. They see other girls and usually say “I’m a girl too and I want to be like that.” But they have a penis.
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I was?
Any guy who writes a ten page misogynist manifesto is probably an all around cad. Doubt this was the only reason they fired him.
But yeah of course Google is dumb, they should be hiring more people with regressive ideas about gender, that definitely makes sense.
It is only your opinion that it was a misogynist manifesto and it is only your opinion that the he has regressive ideas about gender.
Imo, it makes sense that gender could affect one’s personality, and that could have an affect on career choices. Gender has an affect on what movies people like(there is a reason the term “chick-flick” exists) and whether or not they are sports fans, doesn’t it? Lets say you were at an American football stadium while a game was going on, if you had bet whether there were more men or women there, which way would you bet?
I’m guessing it’s the latter.
Instead of just guessing, how about we turn to science to answer the question? I think that was more or less the point of that 10 page letter that guy from Google wrote.
This would only be true if the person in question was indeed saying “girls that they aren’t employed in certain jobs because get-over-it” and was exhibiting “general meanness and bad attitude”. I am not so sure the guy that wrote the 10 page paper was doing that.
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But that doesn’t give someone license to outright tell girls that they aren’t employed in certain jobs because get-over-it.
Is that what I was doing?
No. That’s what whats-his-buckets that got fired from Google was doing.
chyron just put a big Ric pic in your sig and be done with it.
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Do you include me in your list of “self-righteous jerks”? You did say “I can’t engage with any of you.”.
I’m tired and irritable and not in the mood to put up with how liberals describe my views on abortion. You’re not part of that crowd. This thread is just not fun anymore, and this is why hardly post in it anymore.
Oh, shut up. We weren’t describing your views on abortion. We were discussing what labels regarding stance on abortion may (or may not) be more (or less) accurate in general, and our individual opinions of why they might or might not be accurate.
Now, instead of using liberal as an epithet and putting everyone of apparently opposing view in a box while complaining about how they put you in a box, why don’t you be an adult and actually try having an intelligent rational conversation.
I’m very sorry that I offended you by stating that the Left is overgeneralizing. How dare I broach such a sensitive topic with such callousness. I feel awful that I hurt your feelings!
everybody likes choice
Not everybody. That’s the point isn’t it?
What about pro and anti-choice?
So if someone opposes abortion, that means they oppose choice? It doesn’t mean they hold life sacred from conception? It doesn’t mean they value the future of the child?
I tend to say pro- and anti-abortion.
Pro-abortion is misleading and inflammatory. It goes again to the idea that the left wants lots and lots of abortions, which is flat out wrong.
Pro-life and pro-abortion are both right-wing distortions.
Anyone who is truly pro-life should also support all methods of reducing abortions, including sex-education and wide availability of contraception. Unfortunately, and especially when religion is involved, that’s very often not the case.
How is the term pro-choice limiting and divisive? It’s a legitimate description of the position, which is being in favor of the woman’s right to choose.
Anti-abortion is much more accurate than pro-life.
Pro-life is a distortion? Are you telling me that those who choose the label ‘pro-life’ are not accurately in favor of life? And let me ask here, how many of the pro-choice crowd have said at least once in a recent discussion about abortion that those who oppose it are somehow opposed to women (i.e. War on Women, want to keep women in the kitchen, etc.)? Is that not a distortion?
As for pro-life being a rightwing distortion, I don’t necessarily see how. It’s technically accurate.
The right does not support life as much as they are against abortion. Hence anti-abortion being more accurate.
Here’s another example - Republicans (in general) favor tax breaks that favor the rich while pulling government support from the poor. They care about making sure a fetus comes to term, but then don’t care at all what happens after it is born. That’s not pro-life either, that’s anti-abortion.
Is that not an oversimplification? Is there really this belief that Republicans are just out to punish the poor? Even if you oppose fiscal conservatism, it seems wrong to me to ascribe motives like not caring how the child fares after birth. I am more moderate than most conservatives and favor more social programs than your average Republican, but nevertheless, are you not generalizing that most who oppose abortion and favor individuals and families taking more personal responsibility for their economic well-being are really “not caring” about how the child does after birth?
I thought that if a group chooses to identify by a certain term, that is their right to choose. I am pro-life. Most conservatives, even the overzealous Evangelical brand, care a great deal about people from conception until death. I’ve seen stereotypes in this thread about how every conservative belief is motivated by sexism or racism or socioeconomic superiority. Most of them are good people who think they are doing what is best for the general populace. I get just as irritated at them when I hear stupid generalizations about liberals.
The old politics thread used to have much more diversity of opinion, and I loved it back then. Now it is populated mostly by liberals who reinforce each others’ points of view without much opposition. Well, I’m here to tell you that I am a pro-life, anti-Trump, moderate conservative who does not appreciate stupid stereotypes, whether from the angry Right or holier-than-thou Left. And so, dear chyron847, you can shut up.
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I am a father to a 2.5 year old daughter, and her preferences, while influenced by me, are so very obviously to me not altogether of my or my wife’s making.
As a parent, I grow increasingly annoyed at accusations that parents brainwash or wrongfully indoctrinate their kids.
Absolutely agree. But I believe the current thinking is that by the time the average child is 2 years old, their parents are no longer the primary external influence on them. So while there’s a hell of a lot of internal causes, there are also a hell of a lot of external causes, and the parents really barely factor into it beyond the first couple years.
That said, I know some trans kids. They are not boys who see all the media’s messaging (and parental/peer messaging) about how boys should act and reject it. They do not see other boys and say “I’m a boy but I don’t want to be like that”. They are girls who see all the media’s messaging (and parental/peer messaging) about how girls should act and largely accept it. They see other girls and usually say “I’m a girl too and I want to be like that.” But they have a penis.
But the point is, they start doing that before they even know they are transgendered. They don’t go “oh! I transgendered! Now let me see how everyone thinks girls should act and I will act like that”, I think it is more like they start out preferring girls and then realize later on that they are transgendered.
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But that doesn’t give someone license to outright tell girls that they aren’t employed in certain jobs because get-over-it.
Is that what I was doing?
No. That’s what whats-his-buckets that got fired from Google was doing.
really?
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I am a father to a 2.5 year old daughter, and her preferences, while influenced by me, are so very obviously to me not altogether of my or my wife’s making.
As a parent, I grow increasingly annoyed at accusations that parents brainwash or wrongfully indoctrinate their kids.
Absolutely agree. But I believe the current thinking is that by the time the average child is 2 years old, their parents are no longer the primary external influence on them.
I think people who say so either don’t have kids or assume most kids are babysat by the TV all day. My wife and I are still the two people with whom my daughter interacts the most, by a long shot. At some point, yes that is true that we will not be the primary influence, but not so at two years old.
chyron just put a big Ric pic in your sig and be done with it.
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But that doesn’t give someone license to outright tell girls that they aren’t employed in certain jobs because get-over-it.
Is that what I was doing?
No. That’s what whats-his-buckets that got fired from Google was doing.
really?
Yes. Hence the accusations by his coworkers of sexual harassment.
chyron just put a big Ric pic in your sig and be done with it.
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I am a father to a 2.5 year old daughter, and her preferences, while influenced by me, are so very obviously to me not altogether of my or my wife’s making.
As a parent, I grow increasingly annoyed at accusations that parents brainwash or wrongfully indoctrinate their kids.
Absolutely agree. But I believe the current thinking is that by the time the average child is 2 years old, their parents are no longer the primary external influence on them. So while there’s a hell of a lot of internal causes, there are also a hell of a lot of external causes, and the parents really barely factor into it beyond the first couple years.
That said, I know some trans kids. They are not boys who see all the media’s messaging (and parental/peer messaging) about how boys should act and reject it. They do not see other boys and say “I’m a boy but I don’t want to be like that”. They are girls who see all the media’s messaging (and parental/peer messaging) about how girls should act and largely accept it. They see other girls and usually say “I’m a girl too and I want to be like that.” But they have a penis.
But the point is, they start doing that before they even know they are transgendered. They don’t go “oh! I transgendered! Now let me see how everyone thinks girls should act and I will act like that”, I think it is more like they start out preferring girls and then realize later on that they are transgendered.
There are also people who are biologically female but identify as men.
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But the point is, they start doing that before they even know they are transgendered. They don’t go “oh! I transgendered! Now let me see how everyone thinks girls should act and I will act like that”, I think it is more like they start out preferring girls and then realize later on that they are transgendered.
Sure. As far as they know (with the examples I know), they’re a girl and they have a penis. They’re not trans, they’re a girl. And sure, they’ve heard adults say that boys have penises and girls don’t, but they can look down their own pants for proof the adult is wrong, QED. It’s not until they learn a little more about society works that they identify as trans. Until then they’re just a girl like any other girl. Also, some of the girls with penises like boy things. They’re tomboys. Trans tomboys. It really has nothing to do with what activities you like, although there’s a large overlap.
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But that doesn’t give someone license to outright tell girls that they aren’t employed in certain jobs because get-over-it.
Is that what I was doing?
No. That’s what whats-his-buckets that got fired from Google was doing.
really?
Yes. Hence the accusations by his coworkers of sexual harassment.
I did not realize his coworkers accused him of sexual harassment. What more precisely are they saying he did?
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Is a boy more into sports because he has a penis or because his Dad liked sports and the other boys liked sports and they all looked down on him until he liked sports?
I’m guessing it’s the latter.
What about transgendered people? When they are young, aren’t they given the clothes and the toys of the gender everyone things they are and they sometimes reject them and prefer the toys and cloths of the other gender?
Often, yes.
Not sure what your point is, unless you’re just agreeing with me.
My point is that maybe there is something about what gender your brain is that affects what you like that don’t like. You said that maybe the only reason a boy likes sports is because his Dad did and how other boys would look down on him for not liking sports. If what you said is true, then a person born with the mind of girl but the body of a boy would still end up liking sports and the same would true of toys and clothes, yet we know it doesn’t work like that.
Newsflash: Some girls like football and Star Wars, some boys like My Little Pony Friendship is Magic. A person with the mind of a girl but the body of a boy absolutely can end up liking sports and “boy” toys and clothes. You may think it doesn’t work like that but I guarantee you are wrong.
Newsflash: More boys than girls like football and Star Wars, more girls than boys like My Little Pony Friendship is Magic. A person with mind of girl but the body of a boy tends to reject the boy clothes and toys the person is given and instead favors the girl cloths and toys the same is also true of sports. You may think it doesn’t work like that but I guarantee you are wrong.
Newsflash: Parents want their kids to conform to their preconceived stereotypes. If their kid is a boy, they’re more likely to try to get them to act like a boy. Kids see stereotypes of gender in media. They carry these throughout their life. Kids can also be bullied if they don’t like the “right” thing. You may think it doesn’t work like that but I guarantee you are wrong.
Do any of you have kids?
I am a father to a 2.5 year old daughter, and her preferences, while influenced by me, are so very obviously to me not altogether of my or my wife’s making. She likes pink. She likes yellow. But that’s not because we actively encourage it by pushing it on her. As a parent, I am learning how much of who God made her to be, as well as trying to train her in the ways I think is best for her.
As a parent, I grow increasingly annoyed at accusations that parents brainwash or wrongfully indoctrinate their kids.
And see, why couldn’t we have started our conversation with a nice agreement like this? The notion that male and female brains are identical except for what society impresses upon them is nonsense.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/hope-relationships/201402/brain-differences-between-genders
That said, if someone is qualified for a position, who cares about what genitals they have? I am a male and a nurse. Who cares?!
It’s the notion that we are identical that is stupid. Furthermore, there is this accusation that the fact that society enforces differences is evil. Guess what, your entire worldview is shaped by society. My wife and I decided that she should be a stay-at-home mom and take care of the kids. It wasn’t a macho “I’m the man and you’re going to stay home” decision. We decided together as equals. There are many days I wished she worked so I wouldn’t have such financial stress. But we feel she would do best at nurturing our young children, so she stays home. Society has left a number of prints upon us, and it is not a crime to conform with what comes most naturally, as long as all involved had a choice in the matter and all were treated with as much respect and dignity as possible.