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The issue with abolishing it is that, especially after this election, the Republicans will never do it.

Even though it’s highly unlikely, I’m hoping for a big EC/popular vote disparity in 2020 with the Dems winning, just so that everyone can be mad.

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DominicCobb said:.

Your solution makes sense but is ultimately just an unnecessary substitute for the real deal: the popular vote.

Unfortunately, I think idea of a popular vote will face too much opposition. Hence my compromise.

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Warbler said:

DominicCobb said:.

Your solution makes sense but is ultimately just an unnecessary substitute for the real deal: the popular vote.

Unfortunately, I think idea of a popular vote will face too much opposition. Hence my compromise.

National Popular Vote has also proposed a compromise that has already been approved in several states.

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Yes, I know. They are trying to go state to state and get state to pass a law awarding its electoral votes to the winner of the national popular. Such laws are set up only go into effect once the number of the electoral votes of the states on board equals a majority of the total. It might work, but I think it will be an uphill battle.

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FanFiltration said:

TV’s Frink said:

Trump is melting down on Twitter this morning and it’s glorious.

I don’t have Twitter, could you share some of the juicy bits with us?

I don’t have Twitter either. I just google search “Trump” and his feed comes up…you can do it too!

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doubleofive said:

Ignore this is Cosmo for some reason:

I don’t know why or how, but apparently Cosmo and MTV have both done some good reporting on Trump.

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Young people today care more about current events than previous generations!

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DominicCobb said:

Young people today care more about current events than previous generations!

Just because they care doesn’t mean that they have any idea of what they’re talking about. If a bunch of young people really care about what’s going on but get all of their information from Buzzfeed, then they are hardly less ignorant than the youth of previous generations.

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I’m pretty sure everyone understands that.

The point was that you wouldn’t think Cosmo, MTV, Vanity Fair, Teen Vogue, etc. would be anything you’d want to pay attention to regarding politics, but somehow that’s the case.

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moviefreakedmind said:

DominicCobb said:

Young people today care more about current events than previous generations!

Just because they care doesn’t mean that they have any idea of what they’re talking about. If a bunch of young people really care about what’s going on but get all of their information from Buzzfeed, then they are hardly less ignorant than the youth of previous generations.

If we’re arguing over what generation is the best, we all know which one was the greatest.

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Handman said:

moviefreakedmind said:

DominicCobb said:

Young people today care more about current events than previous generations!

Just because they care doesn’t mean that they have any idea of what they’re talking about. If a bunch of young people really care about what’s going on but get all of their information from Buzzfeed, then they are hardly less ignorant than the youth of previous generations.

If we’re arguing over what generation is the best, we all know which one was the greatest.

I fixed your link.

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http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/02/15/trump-spicer-questions-conservative-media/97950144/

At President Trump’s joint press conference with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on Wednesday, he only took two questions from members of American media.

The first question went to The Christian Broadcasting Network, which states its mission “is to prepare the United States of America and the nations of the world for the coming of Jesus Christ”; the second to Townhall.com, a website whose mission is to “amplify” conservative voices — particularly conservative talk radio.

Neither outlet asked about reports of contact between the Trump camp and Russian intelligence agents or the recent resignation of national security adviser Michael Flynn.

Jim Acosta of CNN, which Trump has repeatedly labeled as “fake news,” was not called on but asked a question about Russia, which Trump ignored.

Hilarious.

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I’m okay with the electoral college system. It could use some tightening up, but overall it’s a decent system.

I find that a straight popular vote is scary.

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Nothing can be scarier than a system that elected Donald fucking Trump to be president.

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I think there is plenty more than the electoral college system to blame for that.

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And so would be the case for any “scary” winners under the popular vote system.

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Tyrphanax said:

I’m okay with the electoral college system. It could use some tightening up, but overall it’s a decent system.

I find that a straight popular vote is scary.

What do you think of my suggestion?

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DominicCobb said:

And so would be the case for any “scary” winners under the popular vote system.

Indeed, but the fire for changing it right now because someone we don’t like won the election seems rash.

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Tyrphanax said:

I’m okay with the electoral college system. It could use some tightening up, but overall it’s a decent system.

I find that a straight popular vote is scary.

What do you think of my suggestion?

It wasn’t bad.

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Tyrphanax said:

DominicCobb said:

And so would be the case for any “scary” winners under the popular vote system.

Indeed, but the fire for changing it right now because someone we don’t like won the election seems rash.

I’ve always been against the system. Even if it was the other way around, a 3 million vote discrepancy is unacceptable.

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DominicCobb said:

Tyrphanax said:

DominicCobb said:

And so would be the case for any “scary” winners under the popular vote system.

Indeed, but the fire for changing it right now because someone we don’t like won the election seems rash.

I’ve always been against the system. Even if it was the other way around, a 3 million vote discrepancy is unacceptable.

That’s the whole point of the system, though. The population is weighted unevenly towards big cities which almost always are islands of highly concentrated blue in a reddish sea.

If we had one state with one big city in it and most of the Liberals lived there while most of the Conservatives lived out in the boonies and there were more Liberals in the city than Conservatives in the country, we’d so rarely have a Conservative President that you’d think we were a single-party nation and the Conservatives would feel very unincluded. I don’t think it’s entirely fair to allow a majority to have control purely because they’re a majority. What if they want to elect a cat?

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If a majority isn’t a majority then what is it?

What if, in your scenario, millions lived in that one city and the boonies, all put together, amounted to a dozen, total. What gives those people more of a voice than a dozen in the city? Just because people live in a city, doesn’t mean they all think alike or want the same things.

If the people want a cat, they’ll elect a cat. Whether there’s an electoral college system in place wouldn’t change that. There’s nothing about cats that’s going to make everybody in the cities vote for it and no one in the boonies.

Yes there are more liberals in the cities, but if liberal candidates started pandering to only those in the cities they would lose a lot of other votes fast. As is, we have conservative candidates who don’t consider those in cities at all because they don’t have to (well besides corporate fat cats). Our current system gears elections to a small amount of states, not the whole country. Why should people in the rust belt and Florida have control over the country?

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Oh my god, I just heard Trump’s comments on two state vs. one state and he sounds like a fucking moron. Does he know anything about the job he was hired to do?

Sure glad people wanted an outsider who was wildly unqualified. You know, because emails.