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In the fourth draft version of that scene, Vader doesn’t actually drink from the cup. Instead he crushes the cup in his hand as a demonstration of strength, right after Tarkin makes Vader release Admiral Motti from his Force choke. This slight gesture of defiance seems to have been lost in the revised fourth draft/shooting script (the version in Mayhew’s tweets).

Any other conundrums? 😃

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I find it interesting that Vader is referred to as Tarkin’s “henchman.”

You certainly sense in the movie that Tarkin has some authority to restrain Vader, but hardly that he is in charge.

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CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

I find it interesting that Vader is referred to as Tarkin’s “henchman.”

You certainly sense in the movie that Tarkin has some authority to restrain Vader, but hardly that he is in charge.

Are you sure you’re not letting TESB+ material colour your view of Vader’s status in SW?

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CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

I find it interesting that Vader is referred to as Tarkin’s “henchman.”

You certainly sense in the movie that Tarkin has some authority to restrain Vader, but hardly that he is in charge.

“I should have expected to find you here holding Vader’s leash,” Leia says. I mean I think it’s pretty clear that Tarkin was the man in charge and Vader was just sort of the muscle.

That’s another thing retconned in the prequels, making Vader into some kind of god figure (complete with virgin birth) and centering the entire saga on him. He wasn’t even originally supposed to be second in command, at least not officially. Even in Empire, we see him storming Hoth on foot at the front lines. He’s the muscle, not the brass.

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DuracellEnergizer said:

CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

I find it interesting that Vader is referred to as Tarkin’s “henchman.”

You certainly sense in the movie that Tarkin has some authority to restrain Vader, but hardly that he is in charge.

Are you sure you’re not letting TESB+ material colour your view of Vader’s status in SW?

Perhaps you’re right. It’s been a while since I’ve watched Star Wars in isolation. I usually watch them once a year in rapid succession which might make me not appreciate these distinctions.

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Density said:

CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

I find it interesting that Vader is referred to as Tarkin’s “henchman.”

You certainly sense in the movie that Tarkin has some authority to restrain Vader, but hardly that he is in charge.

“I should have expected to find you here holding Vader’s leash,” Leia says. I mean I think it’s pretty clear that Tarkin was the man in charge and Vader was just sort of the muscle.

That’s another thing retconned in the prequels, making Vader into some kind of god figure (complete with virgin birth) and centering the entire saga on him. He wasn’t even originally supposed to be second in command, at least not officially. Even in Empire, we see him storming Hoth on foot at the front lines. He’s the muscle, not the brass.

Yeah, going strictly by what we see in the films, Vader was always the emperor’s enforcer. He’s given command/authority over whatever resources he needs for a particular task. He operates outside the formal hierarchy of the imperial military. But he’s not always the guy in charge of the situation. In ESB he seems so powerful because he’s been given charge of a decent size fleet to complete his task of hunting down the rebel base, and more specifically, Luke. I’m sure the emperor was willing to throw any and all resources the empire could muster to capture a new force user, especially once he knew it was another Skywalker…

That’s something I’ve actually really enjoyed in the new marvel comics. Vader is running around both doing the emperors bidding but also secretly seeing to his own agenda. And he’s working both within and against the imperial structure at the same time. He’s not always in charge and often at odds with the people who are. But he does generally seem to get what he wants b/c he’s the emperors right hand man, and he’s also cunning and powerful in his own right.

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joefavs said:

I doubt it’s his retirement, we know he’s doing VIII and this seems like a weird time to be making announcements about what he means to do beyond that. Honestly, the OUT didn’t even occur to me when I saw this story yesterday. Here’s hoping it’s that. Maybe a young Han Solo casting announcement? Though I doubt that would be Peter’s news to break. I guess we wait and see. How many pages is the SW shooting script, anyway?

I mean, he never says he would be the one making the announcement. Just that it would be “a” big announcement. My bet is that he knows Disney/Lucasfilm is announcing the OUT for the 40th anniversary on a certain date. It would explain why he’s sharing his script of the original film to commemorate the occasion. Seems more likely it’s about something old than something new.

And if that is true I really hope they not only release it on Blu-ray, but also screen the restoration in a theatrical re-release. I don’t want to get too excited, but with all the buzz going on recently it seems inevitable and the 40th anniversary, 20 years after the Special Edition, is the perfect time. Add on top of that Rogue One’s connection to the original and the fact that Episode 8 was pushed back to December and it seems like May 2017 would be the absolutely perfect time for a theatrical re-release. It’s like too perfect, all the stars are aligned exactly right. Disney would be stupid not to do it.

40th Anniversary Edition… Hmmm I’d buy it for sure, That seems like quite a long way off yet to make an announcement now but let’s wait and see 😃

Something I have thought about when it comes to releasing the original Star Wars movie, although I don’t particularly want it altered is there a need to alter it in certain places to get around legal issues? But I do hope it’s something in this vein I really do.

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Ronster said:

40th Anniversary Edition… Hmmm I’d buy it for sure, That seems like quite a long way off yet to make an announcement now but let’s wait and see 😃

Eh. Christmas this year wouldn’t be too early to release a 40th Anniv. edition if that is indeed the secret. He’s still got two weeks or so to go too before the whole script is out.

Edit: Come to think, given the subject matter, Rogue One and such a release would play well off one another.

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If they’re not ready for a full OT restoration yet, they could at least sell Mike Verta’s Star Wars restoration: it’s complete (and they’re already aware of it, since Verta himself is pitching it to Disney), it looks more detailed than the blu-ray and it’s even ready for 4K! Who wouldn’t buy it in a heartbeat? 😃

The Original Trilogy’s Timeline Reconstruction: http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Implied-starting-date-of-the-Empire-from-OT-dialogue/post/786201/#TopicPost786201

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pat man said:

Peter Mayhew just confirmed that Han Shot First. https://mobile.twitter.com/TheWookieeRoars/status/705043238382604288

OK, that’s it, I’m now 110% confident that the OUT is what he was talking about and I will be forced to re-evaluate my judgment, intelligence, and entire life’s meaning if I turn out to be wrong on this.

And I don’t think it’s too early to announce a 40th anniversary edition, especially if it’s going theatrical. They want to drum up hype, and it’s only a year away now. Plus, with Rogue One coming out in December and VIII being pushed back to next December, they need a stopgap in summer 2017 to keep Star Wars fresh in people’s minds. May 2017 would be the perfect time for a theatrical re-release, especially given Rogue One’s plot connection to the original.

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O.o Wouldn’t a new OT theatrical release (possibly all 3 movies) actually clash with the marketing of Rogue One and VIII? I’d like to see myself the OT on the big screen (especially if properly restored!), but I wonder if right now it may be too much for both marketing and people to handle.

The Original Trilogy’s Timeline Reconstruction: http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Implied-starting-date-of-the-Empire-from-OT-dialogue/post/786201/#TopicPost786201

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I’ve been thinking for awhile that an OOT release in 2017 is inevitable, and I still think that’s the case, but I don’t think the way they’d announce it is through Peter Mayhew’s twitter feed.

Don’t see why marketing would clash, especially if the set is released in May 2017. A home video release is not going to overshadow a theatrical release, even if it’s the Holy Grail of home video releases. If they do a theatrical rerelease it would clash, sure, but I don’t think they’ll do that (besides perhaps a marathon before VIII).

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John Doom said:

O.o Wouldn’t a new OT theatrical release (possibly all 3 movies) actually clash with the marketing of Rogue One and VIII? I’d like to see myself the OT on the big screen (especially if properly restored!), but I wonder if right now it may be too much for both marketing and people to handle.

If that were the case, then they would never release it. Certainly not for several more years.

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A limited edition theatrical release would not clash with anything, it would just add to the marketing hype for VIII and tie in perfectly to Rogue One.

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DominicCobb said:

I’ve been thinking for awhile that an OOT release in 2017 is inevitable, and I still think that’s the case, but I don’t think the way they’d announce it is through Peter Mayhew’s twitter feed.

It’s possible that it won’t actually be Mayhew’s announcement. It might be he just knows when Disney plans to announce it and is doing his own goofy thing on Twitter to coincide with it. My bet (assuming it actually is an OUT release) is that Disney does its own press release and Mayhew tweets a link to it when he gets to the end of the script.

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DominicCobb said:

[…] A home video release is not going to overshadow a theatrical release, even if it’s the Holy Grail of home video releases. If they do a theatrical rerelease it would clash, sure, but I don’t think they’ll do that (besides perhaps a marathon before VIII).

😦 I’m sorry, I think I didn’t explain my thoughts correctly in English: by “theatrical release” I actually meant “releasing the OT in the theaters”, home video is fine to me. I know, I totally have to improve my English, I’m sorry 😄
Anyway, I see you have my exact same thought on this matter 😃

The Original Trilogy’s Timeline Reconstruction: http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Implied-starting-date-of-the-Empire-from-OT-dialogue/post/786201/#TopicPost786201

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joefavs said:

DominicCobb said:

I’ve been thinking for awhile that an OOT release in 2017 is inevitable, and I still think that’s the case, but I don’t think the way they’d announce it is through Peter Mayhew’s twitter feed.

It’s possible that it won’t actually be Mayhew’s announcement. It might be he just knows when Disney plans to announce it and is doing his own goofy thing on Twitter to coincide with it. My bet (assuming it actually is an OUT release) is that Disney does its own press release and Mayhew tweets a link to it when he gets to the end of the script.

That’s my theory too.

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Ok when he confirmed Han Shot First I thought - Original Star Wars
and when he mentioned 40 years I thought - Original Star Wars

But some of the other stuff he has been talking about like the Biggs Stuff and him not getting a medal just seem to be not about a release of the Original Film but I think as perhaps would hint as the sort of thing you would find in say the special features of a DVD / Blu Ray.

I am going to wait with baited breath but I am not going to get too excited just yet It could literally be something else. Never assume anything

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Ronster said:

Never assume anything

No one’s assuming. We’re just predicting/guessing.

Also, the Biggs stuff is simply pointing out different tidbits/fun facts in the draft, whereas “Han Shot First” is a statement.

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Ronster said:

Ok when he confirmed Han Shot First I thought - Original Star Wars
and when he mentioned 40 years I thought - Original Star Wars

But some of the other stuff he has been talking about like the Biggs Stuff and him not getting a medal just seem to be not about a release of the Original Film but I think as perhaps would hint as the sort of thing you would find in say the special features of a DVD / Blu Ray.

I am going to wait with baited breath but I am not going to get too excited just yet It could literally be something else. Never assume anything

It’s still related to the original film. And maybe that stuff will be included in the Blu-Ray special features.

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Decided to poke around Mayhew’s site to find any hints, came up with this:
http://www.chewbacca.com/merchandise.php

The timeline would probably correspond to around the end of the script, but England? Sounds like he’s shooting his scenes for VIII… and how could there by an announcement about the specifics of that without spoilage? Perhaps they’re unrelated, but it’s mysterious.

Edit: Also this http://www.chewbacca.com/schedule.php

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