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PT vs OT Scientific Study

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I'm a high school science teacher and I've got a nasty cough.

First period I say after a particuarly long series of dry hacks, "Sorry I sound like General Greivous."

Nothing. No reaction. Blank stares.

Curious, the next period I said, "Sorry I sound like Darth Vader." and got a couple small chuckles.

I alternated the rest of the day. Here are the results.

  • Greivous: 3 periods of total silence.
  • Vader: Small chuckles, scoff of recognition and twice being told "Darth Vader doesnt' cough."

 

My students are 14-15 years old of a wide range of ethnicities from the lower to upper-middle classes. It's not exactly a scientific study, but it gives me some hope for the future.

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I don't know. It's not like Grievous was such a remarkable character.

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That would have been better if you would have told it as a story problem.

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Train A is leaving station B at a rate of 100% sounding like General Grievious...

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Rewrite the Prequels!

 

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See?  That's what I'm talking about. 

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Ziggy Stardust said:

Lets us not forget, Darth was in a prequel.

Fixed.

Also...noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo....

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Six years later, and nobody remembers General Grievous.

 

HA!

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General who?? ;)

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Grevious didn't look cool and acted and sounded like a complete buffoon. He didn't do a single thing in his only movie to make him seem threatening or impressive.

Shit, at least Darth Maul offed a Jedi.

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ray_afraid said:

TV's Frink said:

Ziggy Stardust said:

Let's all forget... PLEASE, let's all forget... Darth was in a prequel.

Fixed.

Also...noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo....

Fixed again.

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IT'S MY TRILOGY, AND I WANT IT NOW!

"[George Lucas] rebooted the franchise in 1997 without telling anyone." -skyjedi2005

"Yeah, well, George says a lot of things..." a young 1997 xhonzi on RASSM

"They're my movies." -George Lucas. 19 people won oscars for their work on Star Wars (1977) and George Lucas wasn't one of them.

Rewrite the Prequels!

 

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Quackula said:

Grevious didn't look cool and acted and sounded like a complete buffoon. He didn't do a single thing in his only movie to make him seem threatening or impressive.

Shit, at least Darth Maul offed a Jedi.

 First of all, Darth Maul was the greatest Sith out of all the movies.

Second, according to GL, each movie he wanted to bring in one new nasty character. ESB: Bobba Fett, ROTJ: Jabba/Emperor, TPM: Darth Maul AOTC:Jango Fett/Count Dooku, ROTS: General Grevious

So, that's the general analogy.

 

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General Analogy sounds more threatening than General Grevious.

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Ziggy Stardust said:

Let us not forget, Darth was in the prequels.

For a grand total of four minutes. (Counting from the first time we see Anakin in the suit and not before.) Given how prominent Vader was in the ROTS publicity machine, I can't help but feel a little ripped off. ;)

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Where were you in '77?

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As the kids who grew up with the PT films grow into young adults/adults  their love  and preference for the PT films over the OT film will change and they will start leaning towards the OT films.   The luster of special effects  and CGI will wear off as they become older and  most will appreciate a real story and screenplay over  the circus performing B-movie screenplays of the PT films.

I still feel insulted when PT fans my age  still claim  we only prefer the OT films because that is what we grew up with  and we have fond memories of them.

 

I grew up with and have fond memories of the made for TV spider-man films but that does not mean I think they are better films than the  Sam Rami films. NO...PT fans  there is really such a thing  as  liking something better  simply because it is better in  every way  a film should be.

 

Also I love how natalie portman at the oscars the other night gave thanks to like three different directors she has worked for and teaching her things and inspiring her through out her career  and she failed to mention george lucas  even though he directed her in 3 films.

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Sluggo said:

General Analogy sounds more threatening than General Grevious.

 

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I don't know who General Grievous is, but I've heard a lot of the character names from the  last two films and they sound just as stupid as the names in Phantom.

Come on man,  from Skywalker, Kenobi, and Solo..... to Naboo, Dooku, Jar Jar,  and Bibble?

Maul & Grievous - that's just lazy.

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TheBoost said:

First period I say after a particuarly long series of dry hacks, "Sorry I sound like General Greivous."

Nothing. No reaction. Blank stares.

That would probably be my expression, too, plus shame which you wouldn't be able to see. LOL

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I think kids look at the prequels the way I looked at Power Rangers:

I remembered watching years ago, but can't remember what the hell it was about.

Where as the OT has fans that have watched it over and over since 77.

"The other versions will disappear. Even the 35 million tapes of Star Wars out there won’t last more than 30 or 40 years. A hundred years from now, the only version of the movie that anyone will remember will be the DVD version [of the Special Edition], and you’ll be able to project it on a 20’ by 40’ screen with perfect quality. I think it’s the director’s prerogative, not the studio’s to go back and reinvent a movie." - George Lucas

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Thing is, I don't think Power Rangers ever attempted to be much more than what it was, while the PT is filled will all sorts of attempts at being 'intellectual'.

 

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WhatsMyName said:

 First of all, Darth Maul was the greatest Sith out of all the movies.

 

Yeah! Don't you love when he, umm.... What did he do again?

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TML said:

WhatsMyName said:

 First of all, Darth Maul was the greatest Sith out of all the movies.

 

Yeah! Don't you love when he, umm.... What did he do again?

He did do some fancy flips and stuff. That was kinda cool.

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TML said:

WhatsMyName said:

 First of all, Darth Maul was the greatest Sith out of all the movies.

 

Yeah! Don't you love when he, umm.... What did he do again?

The supposed badassery of Darth Maul has troubled me since the beginning.  Sure he looked cool.  But his death negates whatever goodwill he had accumulated by that point.

Unless Lucas wanted it to seem like Maul wanted to die, there is no way that he could not have blocked that swing.

Since they're like poetry, what with the rhyming and all, I find that I only need to watch three out of the six films.

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Eh, could say the same thing about Boba Fett. Doesn't really do anything. Only in like four scenes. Has a stupid death. A few minutes of posing goes a long way.

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